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MineralMan

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8. I'm not talking about some new neighborhood, actually.

Mon Sep 30, 2024, 02:11 PM

Sep 30

The considerations I'm talking about are much more expansive. But, there it is. I'm 79 years old. I'm not going to see what happens.

I started thinking about all of this decades ago, and made a number of decisions along the way, based on what I saw.
I'm not minimizing or trivializing at all. I'm suggesting the people might need to make personal changes to survive it all. Nothing trivial about that in any way.

Do I wish there was some sure way to fix the situation? Of course I do. If you know of such a solution, please lay it out for us.

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I Think We Waited Way Too Long to Fix Climate Change [View all] MineralMan Sep 30 OP

A consideration... 2naSalit Sep 30 #1

Well, yes, but that is now the past. MineralMan Sep 30 #5

I do agree... 2naSalit Sep 30 #15

Well, it sounds like you're thinking and planning. MineralMan Sep 30 #16

Indeed... 2naSalit Sep 30 #22

Gotcha. MineralMan Sep 30 #24

I've moved to Panama. Tom Dyer Sep 30 #51

From the Climate Change Knowledge Portal: True Dough Sep 30 #52

Liking my odds Tom Dyer Sep 30 #61

Jimmy Carter warned us about 45 years ago, but framed it as an energy crisis csziggy Sep 30 #43

At this point we might need to think seriously about geoengineering solutions RidinWithHarris Sep 30 #2

OK. Perhaps so. I haven't seen any sign of interest in that MineralMan Sep 30 #9

Nope RidinWithHarris Sep 30 #12

It will never be enough Diraven Sep 30 #42

No, it would never be enough *by itself* RidinWithHarris Sep 30 #62

A lot of people want to keep pretending... Think. Again. Sep 30 #3

I'm not talking about some new neighborhood, actually. MineralMan Sep 30 #8

An immediate, massive build-out of non-CO2 emitting power generation... Think. Again. Sep 30 #23

Well, I'm afraid I'm in no position to do any of that. MineralMan Sep 30 #25

It's "WE", my friend, WE are responsible for mitigating the harm WE have caused. Think. Again. Sep 30 #26

We want people to reduce usage of fossil fuels, but then demand the oil companies lower gas prices MichMan Sep 30 #34

That's why I said "forced". Think. Again. Sep 30 #36

Don't see any politician demanding we substantially raise gas taxes any time soon, do you? MichMan Sep 30 #38

Nope, I haven't seen us doing ANYTHING to fight climate change at all. Think. Again. Sep 30 #40

The effects of climate change won't be uniform around the world Kaleva Sep 30 #68

And none of it will be predictable, and none of it will be stable. Think. Again. Sep 30 #72

Models can predict Kaleva Oct 1 #79

Oh yes, and unfortunately... Think. Again. Oct 1 #82

I don't think it would have made a difference Kaleva Oct 1 #87

That's definitely true... Think. Again. Oct 2 #91

I'm glad I'm pretty old. Lunabell Sep 30 #4

The very first life decision I made having to do with all this MineralMan Sep 30 #11

Same here. gay texan Sep 30 #28

We "Stopped at 2." 3Hotdogs Sep 30 #49

People were. Tom Dyer Sep 30 #57

I've been saying this for years. And that has been, and still is... ananda Sep 30 #6

Yes Kaleva Sep 30 #69

I agree. I'm approaching my sell by date and have been taking selfish comfort in the thought that... surfered Sep 30 #7

I think these weather events are a lesson for the world Johnny2X2X Sep 30 #10

Yes. We're seeing some very obvious wake-up calls. MineralMan Sep 30 #13

I wish you were right Johnny2X2X Sep 30 #27

We never even tried to fix it. maxsolomon Sep 30 #14

Well, lip service was given, to some degree. MineralMan Sep 30 #19

People constantly fight it. jimfields33 Sep 30 #39

High gas prices would make EV much more appealing, yet we demanded the oil companies lower them MichMan Sep 30 #44

When I saw gas prices hit $5.00 in 2008, I knew Obama would win. LeftInTX Oct 2 #89

We have waited too long cksmithy Sep 30 #17

I hope, for your grandchildren's sake, you're right. MineralMan Sep 30 #20

I am Californian born and still here. cksmithy Sep 30 #32

And bdamomma Sep 30 #74

I've been in California over 40 years Retrograde Sep 30 #77

Personal solutions Cirsium Sep 30 #18

Read some of my other posts in the thread. MineralMan Sep 30 #21

Understood Cirsium Sep 30 #35

I'm 80. You may remember this from the 60's Ping Tung Sep 30 #37

If you want a chance or your children to have a chance, Kaleva Sep 30 #71

That will never happen Cirsium Sep 30 #78

Some regions will become more suitable for human habitation Kaleva Oct 1 #80

I remember President Jimmy Carter's warnings..he even put solar panels up on the White House Deuxcents Sep 30 #29

There is no technological fix for humanity and habitat Earth except PufPuf23 Sep 30 #30

Well said. Think. Again. Sep 30 #58

Well, of course Easterncedar Sep 30 #31

The best time was 30 years ago; the second best time is now. This... NNadir Sep 30 #33

Agreed. We're screwn. :( GPV Sep 30 #41

I'm happy to be settled in Pittsburgh and I plan to stay here FakeNoose Sep 30 #45

And nobody gets to say that "We had NO IDEA!??!!" hatrack Sep 30 #46

wow! what debbie and dan downers! et tu Sep 30 #47

I agree. Things will quickly get much worse before they slowly get slightly better. Oopsie Daisy Sep 30 #48

And we could've had good solid climate change leadership from Al Gore... DSandra Sep 30 #50

Al Gore gave a speech at St John The Divine Cathedral when his book came out. electric_blue68 Sep 30 #67

We ignored caring for Mother Earth because we weren't prepared to be "inconvenienced". rubbersole Sep 30 #53

It was just too inconvenient. flvegan Sep 30 #54

If we somehow miraculously got to zero emissions now, it would take decades... Wounded Bear Sep 30 #55

Adapt or die BeneteauBum Sep 30 #56

I have been saying for awhile now that it's time to prepare Kaleva Sep 30 #70

Moi Aussi BeneteauBum Sep 30 #73

The Earth is not going away-we are! Just_Vote_Dem Sep 30 #59

George Carlin bdamomma Sep 30 #75

I hope you are incorrect. Tweedy Sep 30 #60

I think we'll muddle through this if we ignore the assholes who believe billions of us must suffer and die... hunter Sep 30 #63

Maybe the uber wealthy should park their private jets MichMan Sep 30 #64

You are right. applegrove Sep 30 #65

I started Marching for Renewables in Washington DC in the Mid-80's! Not Enough People PAID Attention. :( electric_blue68 Sep 30 #66

Neocon planning envisions a southern border wall Ponietz Sep 30 #76

I think you may be right. Blue_Roses Oct 1 #81

Have you ever seen the last timeframe of the movie Cloud Atlas? nt Persondem Oct 1 #83

No, I haven't. Should I? MineralMan Oct 1 #84

It's an interesting, if somewhat flawed movie. It has a great cast, and tries to portray Persondem Oct 1 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Oct 1 #86

All human activity is harmful to the planet, Ron Green Oct 1 #88

Changes in lifestyle are required such as eating less or no meat JI7 Oct 2 #90