On MSNBC Morning Joe. "North Carolina man blames trump for father-in-law refusing FEMA help.

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Here is an interaction with Dan Abrams with someone discussing his father-in-law:

"ANTHONY: My father-in-law lives just outside of Asheville, North Carolina, and he was badly damaged by Hurricane Helene. And he has refused all FEMA help because he's a hardcore trumper. He literally believes that if he accepts anything from FEMA, they're going to take his house.

ANTHONY: I don't understand how so many people are under the spell of this freaking con man. I don't understand it.

DAN ABRAMS: It's absolutely heartbreaking about your father-in-law. I'm so sorry to hear it, um you know--

ANTHONY: Dan, it's hard. It's hard to even imagine it. I mean, he lost almost everything, and he's refusing all help from the federal government and complaining to us that he doesn't have food, that he doesn't have the stuff he need, and yet he won't accept the help. What the hell are we supposed to do? We're not in a position to be able to fly across the country and help him. There's people begging us to get him to accept help and he won't do it. And I guarantee you, I'm not the only one. I guarantee you I'm not the only one.

DAN ABRAMS: I wish there was something I could say as to, you know, I don't know. Is there ---does he have access to any electronics where you could send him some information debunking this and that he might --

ANTHONY: We've done all of that. We've done all of that. We've sent him, we've sent him all the FEMA bulletins. We've sent hi all the stuff from the fact checkers. He doesn't believe it. He thinks it's all --- he just believes trump, literally, Dan. He just ---- it's a cult! He's a cult member. I'm sorry to say it. He's a cult member. And he's my father-in-law and it sucks"

No link because I transcribed it off the TV.