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78. Yeah I never got the Biden hate

Tue Nov 12, 2024, 07:42 AM

Nov 12

I thought he did far better than could be expected especially given Covid. I am on the progressive side and Gaza aside he ended up being more progressive than I expected. The anti trust movement Lina Khan started was also really promising.

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Say whatever but I'm being asked to believe some things [View all] moniss Nov 11 OP

The Odds Of Losing EVERY Swing State Were Very High SoCalDavidS Nov 11 #1

Imitation Game Blue Full Moon Nov 11 #3

Just curious how you Progressive dog Nov 12 #84

Harris sure seemed to have all the momentum at the end SomedayKindaLove Nov 11 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 11 #5

Biden polled very unpopular no matter what he did. Klarkashton Nov 11 #4

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He was extremely unpopular. I never experienced Klarkashton Nov 11 #7

Yeah I never got the Biden hate jfz9580m Nov 12 #78

Gaza OrangeJoe Nov 12 #91

Yup-pretty much.nt jfz9580m Nov 12 #96

And I will NEVER be able to understand why. calimary Nov 11 #26

Nor me. 3catwoman3 Nov 11 #67

Mainly because he picked Kamala as his VP. Next because he ran a second time when he intimated that he would not. Jit423 Nov 11 #68

Fox news, that's who complained about him. Relentlessly. Until people believed it. SharonAnn Nov 11 #69

All of the media complained relentlessly Bettie Nov 12 #80

Inherited it ? CentralMass Nov 11 #28

Harris didn't poll poorly. live love laugh Nov 11 #41

People who got student loan and cannabis_flower Nov 12 #94

There was no possible way to make good on Klarkashton Nov 12 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Nov 11 #8

just on the question on new registrations Hamlette Nov 11 #9

I've done registration outreach at high schools... littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #12

Here's the data... littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #10

Once again--there are MILLIONS of votes in Calif., Oregon, and WA yet to be spooky3 Nov 11 #11

I've been watching that KH total every day and littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #14

I don't think AP has posted updates since Friday - for example, spooky3 Nov 11 #15

I know. ... littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #19

Yes, I don't think she will reach Biden's numbers but she may get closer. spooky3 Nov 11 #20

Lawrence O just said that PA also has lots of votes to count. nt spooky3 Nov 11 #63

78% now soandso Nov 11 #45

That's not AP, but maybe AP gets its #s from that site. spooky3 Nov 11 #52

I don't know where Decision Desk appeared from soandso Nov 11 #56

The net of those uncounted votes would have to swing MASSIVELY in Harris's favor to make much difference. paleotn Nov 11 #23

I did not argue that she would gain, let alone net, 10M votes. But she will likely spooky3 Nov 11 #25

Understood. The gap may narrow a bit but it's still a huge gap. Weird. Just weird. paleotn Nov 11 #31

Current numbers soandso Nov 11 #47

The anomaly was 2020 soandso Nov 11 #46

All the votes have not been counted yet. Farmer-Rick Nov 11 #17

I know. ... littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #21

At best she gets 6M of those. At best. More likely 5.5M or less. The gap won't close much. paleotn Nov 11 #24

My personal opinion is that a lot of voters in 2020 were upset about how spooky3 Nov 11 #29

Can't argue with that. I just can't wrap my head around how even that could shift 2020 this much. paleotn Nov 11 #36

I agree. nt spooky3 Nov 11 #37

2020 had record turn out due to covid accommodations LeftInTX Nov 11 #30

The votes didn't switch soandso Nov 11 #48

Look at the down ballot races! LeftInTX Nov 11 #50

How? soandso Nov 11 #53

Yep. Compare with a benign statewide or countywide race LeftInTX Nov 11 #55

So, it's not more voting down ballot now soandso Nov 11 #58

You left third party candidates out of your stats. LeftInTX Nov 11 #60

True! soandso Nov 11 #62

thanks either way! nt spooky3 Nov 11 #64

We don't really have the data to show crossovers, yet. nt spooky3 Nov 11 #66

How much of that number was successful vote supression? JHB Nov 11 #49

And, we lost a million people during COVID. nt spooky3 Nov 11 #65

See the thom Hartman show NJCher Nov 12 #77

All those big deal things you cited that you and we all really care about? They don't mean doodly squat to maggots. NBachers Nov 11 #13

Really can't argue with that. It won't matter to them. paleotn Nov 11 #27

Robinson is black. mnhtnbb Nov 11 #38

To a degree, yes. But Tim Scott doesn't seem to have a problem with it. paleotn Nov 11 #39

What are the exit polls saying? Unless those are tampered with too. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 11 #16

Voter Turnout dsvajda Nov 11 #18

Thank you! That is what I've been trying to get across to people. littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #22

Could it in any way be because too many people just aren't ready for a woman president? calimary Nov 11 #32

I didn't say you were insensitive or even that turnout wasn't depressed. I just said we don't yet have all the facts so spooky3 Nov 11 #33

Wow....that is a massive falloff. How many voted in 2016? yourout Nov 11 #34

Turnout was higher in 2024 than 2016 LeftInTX Nov 11 #35

Yes, true per Google AI--population was about 4% higher but voters about 14% higher spooky3 Nov 11 #57

The GOP areas are where all the lines were this cycle. LeftInTX Nov 11 #59

Trump has NOT had a huge increase in votes from the last election soandso Nov 11 #40

So you think that it's not odd that he lost not one single voter of any kind moniss Nov 11 #70

Not really soandso Nov 11 #72

But all of his voters moniss Nov 12 #74

He got roughly the same number of votes as in 2020 soandso Nov 12 #75

The fourth thing! CommonHumanity Nov 11 #42

I didn't think Harris would win Georgia. Ilsa Nov 11 #43

The fourth thing! CommonHumanity Nov 11 #44

what happened is covid caused inflation, and Biden/Harris got blamed for it Takket Nov 11 #51

I've wondered too. And trump won all the swing states... brush Nov 11 #54

moniss.......... Upthevibe Nov 11 #61

Being an old Techie.. bobalew Nov 11 #71

A lot of people who were upset about Gaza seem to have stayed home or voted Trump. summer_in_TX Nov 12 #73

I had this disagreement w the polls all year. D23MIURG23 Nov 12 #76

What I've come to understand... Montauk6 Nov 12 #79

How long ago did Musk give Putin Starlink? Plenty of time for Russia to use it to hack our election. 58Sunliner Nov 12 #81

The only thing that makes sense... Dem4life1970 Nov 12 #82

In 2020 it was mail in ballots PennRalphie Nov 12 #83

It's a money grab CindalaB Nov 12 #85

Don't believe the BS ms.pamela Nov 12 #86

Also rmember the close relationship of Musk and Putin. nt moniss Nov 12 #90

Check out @Spoonamore on Spoutible nbsmom Nov 12 #92

FUCK TRUMP Obamna Nov 12 #87

mathematically impossible ItsMaam Nov 12 #88

Also Eloon Musk apparently used his Starlink satellite to transmit election results OMGWTF Nov 12 #89

I don't know... onlyadream Nov 12 #93

There's no doubt repugs cheated and a lot of us are clinging to a hope KS Toronado Nov 12 #97