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Bev54

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84. Yeah it is pretty obvious when two of the smartest and most

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 04:04 PM

Nov 13

Qualified women lost to a moron who’s a rapist, racist and overall the scum of the earth, but he is male. Not much else to say about it. I can no longer defend the indefensible. I am afraid my country, Canada may fall for the conservatives as well and I will concentrate on trying to keep that from happening. I don’t think we are as racist or misogynistic but dumb enough to fall for their gaslighting.

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It says something about many of us that we don't discuss any longer that [View all] boston bean Nov 13 OP

We lost, because they cheated, again, the numbers don't add up. Meadowoak Nov 13 #1

No. boston bean Nov 13 #2

No, they did not cheat kansasobama Nov 13 #27

True, and they also cheated. Meadowoak Nov 13 #40

Yes, I think it is a combination of both PatSeg Nov 13 #49

Agree. ananda Nov 13 #67

Don't forget racist RainCaster Nov 13 #44

inflation poozwah Nov 13 #62

Nailed it! Unfortunately, Harris lost by a bigger margin than HRC- says a lot right there PortTack Nov 13 #63

What do you call gerrymandering? dickthegrouch Nov 13 #65

We had over a billion dollars and a ton of celebrities giving free mini concerts. jimfields33 Nov 14 #106

they passed a lot of voter suppression laws, used Russia to spew disinfo, called in bomb threats, threw out LymphocyteLover Nov 14 #102

Brilliant rebuttal asm128 Nov 13 #47

It's not up to Boston Bean to provide a rebuttal. Elessar Zappa Nov 13 #56

"Democrats don't make claims without evidence." Zeitghost Nov 13 #77

I think something is stinky about this election, too, but when you bring it up you're immediately labeled a nut. Vinca Nov 13 #3

Also, the majority of Latino men voted Harris, Meadowoak Nov 13 #12

I believe that's incorrect. Latinas voted for Harris (around 60%) spooky3 Nov 13 #51

Poster said the same ...majority of latino men voted for trump... happy feet Nov 13 #86

No. I responded to Meadowoak, who said "Also, the majority of Latino men voted Harris," spooky3 Nov 13 #87

Agreed BonnieJW Nov 13 #22

Refuse all you want there, BonnieJW. jaxexpat Nov 13 #29

hands Pilgrim1867 Nov 13 #66

hands Pilgrim1867 Nov 13 #70

This! Blue_Roses Nov 14 #97

I would like bdamomma Nov 14 #103

I have a good friend who Blue_Roses Nov 14 #104

It looks like there is no genuine desire to find out the truth of this election. Won fairly or stolen? If we don't..... usaf-vet Nov 13 #25

If both sides keep making baseless claims that we don't have free and fair elections in the US all is lost. Fish700 Nov 13 #90

either provide specific examples or please stop with this Amishman Nov 13 #36

Exactly HarryM Nov 13 #39

Sure they do. Elessar Zappa Nov 13 #61

Bullshit. We lost because the majority of the voting public are fucking assholes. GoYouPackersGo Nov 14 #92

More than one thing can be true JI7 Nov 13 #4

Racism played a huge part JustAnotherGen Nov 13 #5

Jen, I don't disagree, but Hillary lost too. boston bean Nov 13 #7

Hillary won the popular vote biophile Nov 13 #17

Majority of white women did not vote for Hillary. boston bean Nov 13 #82

No, but according to Pew Validated Voters study, white women voted spooky3 Nov 13 #88

It played a role, but sexism played a much bigger one AkFemDem Nov 13 #8

Yes they hate black women Henry203 Nov 13 #10

Take public transportation for a couple of days CrispyQ Nov 13 #30

Sexism is 100% a main issue in this debacle AkFemDem Nov 13 #6

Maybe you see gender as the main reason Keepthesoulalive Nov 13 #76

Blue leaning Southern states elected a black man... and they... AkFemDem Nov 13 #78

Also another role of sexism here is the dating scene AkFemDem Nov 13 #79

The black woman was on Biden's ticket. Keepthesoulalive Nov 13 #80

You are right. Blue_Roses Nov 14 #98

Even now there is criticism of the Dog Killer JI7 Nov 13 #9

Grievance crowd kerouac2 Nov 13 #11

We lost because a large segement of Independent and MAGA voters don't trust either party. We were ... marble falls Nov 13 #13

Spot on Theproletariat Nov 13 #64

I'm Glad Willard123 Nov 14 #107

This SHOULD be discussed DemonGoddess Nov 13 #14

I could not have said it any better Sister. Ladyhawke1 Nov 13 #15

they won because they lied. over and over, about everything. and they had a symphony of liars behind them. mopinko Nov 13 #16

If there had been no inflation and everything else was perfect, we still wouldn't elect a woman as president. Walleye Nov 13 #18

Personally, I believe there's a segment of the male population that LOVES to be the only.. chouchou Nov 13 #19

Some young men on the internet pointed out how grandma & granddad never got divorced CrispyQ Nov 13 #34

That's a great point! I forgot about that but, young women need to have that reality as Ammunition. chouchou Nov 13 #75

well said bcbink Nov 13 #20

"Men don't like smart girls" Diamond_Dog Nov 13 #60

1971 or so - My own mother told me not to be too obvious about being... 3catwoman3 Nov 13 #74

I agree with you that as guys we don't see the threat the same EdmondDantes_ Nov 13 #21

My sense is after Georgia black women showed cachukis Nov 13 #23

I think the top post is premature Jarqui Nov 13 #24

Sexism, racism - and misinformation. yardwork Nov 13 #26

There is an element of racism mnhtnbb Nov 13 #28

It was magical. Hope22 Nov 13 #31

It's the patriarchy. Pacifist Patriot Nov 13 #32

Racism is a HUGE part ... think of why they still call it Obamacare and claim that they hate it. Even the name... JT45242 Nov 13 #33

Then why was Obama elected TWICE? valleyrogue Nov 13 #43

That's naive. marmar Nov 13 #50

She was the vastly superior candidate by any objective measure Orrex Nov 13 #35

And just plain stupid people Blue_Roses Nov 14 #100

There were a bunch of voters that voted for AOC and fuckface. Lucky Luciano Nov 13 #37

AOC is a congresswomen. Women get elected to Congress pretty often these days. Ocelot II Nov 13 #53

I agree and I care! paleotn Nov 13 #38

Thank you. Silver Gaia Nov 13 #52

Although I agree somewhat LittleGirl Nov 13 #41

Its only beginning Pilgrim1867 Nov 13 #42

Well, aren't you just a big ray Blue_Roses Nov 14 #101

The Nickname "Karen" Need to be Abolished yellowdogdemocrat1 Nov 13 #45

AGree, it started on reddit by some pathetic guy who got dumped that LizBeth Nov 13 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author Silver Gaia Nov 13 #46

We need to think about where in our culture respect for women is taught/learned dlk Nov 13 #48

Hmm. I dunno about that. At least not in my community. These issues were in play in a major way, and we talked about msfiddlestix Nov 13 #54

Post removed Post removed Nov 13 #55

We lost because we spent $1 billion on TV ads, but no social media online where we iuld mahina Nov 13 #57

Here's what I heard while canvassing neighbors SARose Nov 13 #58

It's the right wing propaganda outlets like FQX that are ruining this Country KS Toronado Nov 13 #73

Fox's non-election year audience Zeitghost Nov 13 #81

Kamala's debate performance Marigold Nov 13 #59

Yeah 20/20 I think the same Roc2020 Nov 13 #68

My young, white, male neighbor agrees with you. Silver Gaia Nov 13 #71

This article i posted points out some trends from the election Mosby Nov 13 #72

Democrats lose because republicans got their voters out to vote. republianmushroom Nov 13 #83

Yeah it is pretty obvious when two of the smartest and most Bev54 Nov 13 #84

Of course and we know that they feel invincible moniss Nov 13 #85

Misogyny is the oldest form of bigotry in the world, and the most powerful soldierant Nov 13 #89

Good men DO care about this. The problem is, awful, horrible men VASTLY outnumber the good ones. GoYouPackersGo Nov 14 #91

Nothing changes, everything stays the same BigmanPigman Nov 14 #93

You got the misogyny right 👍 FirstLight Nov 14 #94

Ten million voters stayed home that cast ballots in 2020. Why? Evolve Dammit Nov 14 #95

It gets down to whom we marry and how we raise sons mainer Nov 14 #96

Women bdamomma Nov 14 #99

Sex and race was a part of why we lost. I think Joe Biden was always a moderate doc03 Nov 14 #105