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DJ Synikus Makisimus

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60. When Dems lose, the party leaders always move to the right.

Thu Nov 21, 2024, 06:58 PM

Nov 21

And even when they win sometimes. Been that way since FDR. Otherwise we might become socialisms or something. Same old, same old. It's not just the party elite, however. You can see it on this very site, when AIPAC defeats a progressive or DSAer, there is much rejoicing.

"We need to work together with our FRIENDS across the aisle to find bipartisan solutions...." Notice how Republicans never say that.

Perhaps the question going forward, if indeed a future is allowed, is "Can a party that stands for just about everything stand for anything?"

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Tbh reading that Schumer is making deals with Trump on judges [View all] boston bean Nov 21 OP

yup RJ_MacReady Nov 21 #1

I wrote a post last night asking JMCKUSICK Nov 21 #47

Based on my emails... ramedy Nov 21 #55

"What's right is right" John Shaft Nov 21 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 21 #3

Hopefully, someone with backbone Deuxcents Nov 21 #5

Looooooong overdue BannonsLiver Nov 21 #6

I'm so tired of the old Democratic guard vercetti2021 Nov 21 #4

Thank you. Think. Again. Nov 21 #12

I have been saying this for some time. Bumbles Nov 21 #34

I've supported Bernie but the inspired younger people seems to be mostly a mirage TheKentuckian Nov 21 #62

They assume (I know - making an ass of u and me) rights they have now will always be there. Bumbles Nov 22 #65

The point is all the talk of inspiration and a desired path is mostly hollow. TheKentuckian Nov 22 #66

To paraphrase George Carlin: "It's a club, and you aren't in it!" RockRaven Nov 21 #7

Does he have a choice? Lulu KC Nov 21 #8

just ram them through RJ_MacReady Nov 21 #9

Is that an option? Lulu KC Nov 21 #22

It doesn't seem to be a problem RJ_MacReady Nov 21 #24

The VP only votes in case of a tie. niyad Nov 21 #32

AGREED! Scubamatt Nov 21 #28

They would & they will, soon Nigrum Cattus Nov 21 #31

Why do we need to make deals? Not enough Dems for the votes? boston bean Nov 21 #10

That's my actual question Lulu KC Nov 21 #16

It still begs the question. Republicans would get it done if they were majority. boston bean Nov 21 #18

How come when we have the power we don't use it? Irish_Dem Nov 21 #27

Right? Even in the minority, R's seem to rule the roost, making D's dance to their tune. And... Beartracks Nov 21 #39

Exactly. Irish_Dem Nov 21 #41

We have to play by the rules and bipartisan bullshit SunImp Nov 21 #52

Fight to be nice vs fight to win. Irish_Dem Nov 21 #57

So true. yellow dahlia Nov 21 #53

The Rs on that committee are mostly a really horribly partisan extreme group. summer_in_TX Nov 21 #38

The Rs on the list are the worst America has to offer. Irish_Dem Nov 21 #44

The choice is RECOUNTS n/t moonbeam23 Nov 21 #43

I think he's getting what he can HereForTheParty Nov 21 #11

My biggest fear for the Democratic Party is that they will settle down into a quiescent, permanant minority, Crunchy Frog Nov 21 #13

DuRec leftstreet Nov 21 #14

I canr edhopper Nov 21 #15

Schumer made a deal that maximizes the number of judges Biden will confirm. tritsofme Nov 21 #17

Are you meaning that I am a 'perpetual complainer'? boston bean Nov 21 #20

If the OP is any indication... tritsofme Nov 21 #23

Still not sure about that deal SunImp Nov 21 #63

I wonder what kind of deal does he have to make? oldmanlynn Nov 21 #40

He shouldn't have been able to kill the border deal, either. eggplant Nov 21 #51

I think there are 28 openings, 20 something, gab13by13 Nov 21 #19

Unless any of Biden's nominees have withdrawn, what kind of "deals" are you talking about? Fiendish Thingy Nov 21 #21

Sickening. Completely typical. Ursus Rex Nov 21 #25

Does that make us MAGAs or Russians now? Irish_Dem Nov 21 #26

Who said what to who? stillcool Nov 21 #29

Schumer explains reported GOP deal on judges LetMyPeopleVote Nov 21 #30

Thanks, I was just coming to post this. It sounds like a good deal. Qutzupalotl Nov 21 #33

Those appeal court judges can overrule the federal judge's oldmanlynn Nov 21 #42

Good point, but Schumer says the four didn't have the votes. Qutzupalotl Nov 21 #61

Thanks for posting the context that the OP was missing. I had no idea what this was about! n/t thesquanderer Nov 21 #50

It's often called bipartisanship AKwannabe Nov 21 #35

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This is what we call circular firing squad oldmanlynn Nov 21 #45

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I wonder if responsible Senators of both parties bucolic_frolic Nov 21 #37

And Trump isn't even President yet. milestogo Nov 21 #48

Should Democrats just sit out the next four years? live love laugh Nov 21 #49

We need stronger leadership in the Senate that doesn't cave all the time SunImp Nov 21 #54

See my post here. Democrats say Fox's anonymous source got the details WRONG emulatorloo Nov 21 #56

lol, Schumer takes these Republican assholes to the cleaners, and we get a thread full of bed wetters tritsofme Nov 21 #58

Honestly Trump has the SCOTUS in his pocket anyway. Freethinker65 Nov 21 #59

When Dems lose, the party leaders always move to the right. DJ Synikus Makisimus Nov 21 #60

I don't know if it was a good deal... FormerOstrich Nov 22 #64

A sucker is born every minute. Trump just keeps harvesting them. nt allegorical oracle Nov 22 #67