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yellow dahlia

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136. How would that get implemented?

Reply to SunSeeker (Reply #111)

Thu Feb 6, 2025, 06:10 PM

Feb 6

Can we do some kind of a class action suit? Some kind of injunctive relief? It was our data that was breached.

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Norm Eisen: BREAKING: we just blocked Musk & Trump out of the Treasury systems! [View all] Dennis Donovan Feb 6 OP

Cold comfort. According to Wired GusBob Feb 6 #1

Now, all we have to do is catch them in the act. Baitball Blogger Feb 6 #3

Yep, the entire data system needs to be rebuilt from scratch. Think. Again. Feb 6 #54

That would be an enormous undertaking Tweedy Feb 6 #57

The original system is compromised, we have to. Think. Again. Feb 6 #60

Perhaps. Today we cannot trust those in control Tweedy Feb 6 #66

No, we certainly can NOT trust the current powers. Think. Again. Feb 6 #72

It would provide a ton of IT jobs! BadgerMom Feb 6 #101

an enormous undertaking that would be contracted out to a tech bro rampartd Feb 7 #147

Same as if a foreign hacker team had infiltrated the system DBoon Feb 11 #151

"... a republic, if you can keep it" Ben Franklin. NotHardly Feb 6 #63

What data did they ALREADY steal? Bluetus Feb 6 #78

Agree with you on all counts. yellow dahlia Feb 6 #87

No. Thank you for the link. Bluetus Feb 6 #113

It would be great if someone could get access and do the paper ballot recounts now. yellow dahlia Feb 6 #115

There are Dem Governors in the majority of swing states Bluetus Feb 6 #123

That admission by trump has gotten ALMOST NO scrutiny by the mega corporate media. THAT is a huge problem in the USA. BComplex Feb 6 #88

Thank you for the clip MustLoveBeagles Feb 6 #98

That's what gets me Dem4life1234 Feb 6 #117

Screw David pack whatever with a rusty rake questionseverything Feb 6 #131

Given that the asshole actually said those words clearly KPN Feb 6 #94

AFAIK, none of the DEM Governors in any of those swing states has asked for any kind of audit Bluetus Feb 6 #108

And what SOURCE CODE has been replaced? already? Captain Zero Feb 6 #107

Absolutely. Make them file their answers to the court Bluetus Feb 6 #119

We kept getting our hands slapped every damn time we mentioned it on here Dem4life1234 Feb 6 #116

I spent years harping on the need for election security returnee Feb 6 #120

It really is mind-boggling. Bluetus Feb 6 #122

Not just "What did they steal?"... regnaD kciN Feb 6 #127

Yet, we can get all whipped up about Tiktok Bluetus Feb 6 #145

Yep. The damage has already been done. What's KPN Feb 6 #92

And fine Elon for the bills racked up fixing, patching re-coding, whatever is needed to get his geeks the f' out Attilatheblond Feb 6 #109

an what about evilhime Feb 6 #93

Absolutely. To give Krause or Elez "special employee" access is giving the Musk & the Musk Hacker Group access. ancianita Feb 6 #144

Thank you Retired Veterans! Baitball Blogger Feb 6 #2

Too late, He and the Z kiddies have the data and set the backdoors....nt wcmagumba Feb 6 #4

Yup. They have installed command/control software - probably root kits that can't be detected. erronis Feb 6 #26

Surely there are backups? BadgerKid Feb 6 #46

And as young and privileged as they are, they're the type to haele Feb 6 #74

Remember the Enron conversations? Laughing about "grandma"? CaptainTruth Feb 6 #102

Yup, this was reported on various news outlets. Treasury engineers witnessed their manipulation of the code. Native Feb 6 #90

Data migration this weekend? yellow dahlia Feb 6 #128

I heard this on either MSNBC, CNN, or the Sirius Progressive station (likely Stephanie's show, but could have been Thom) Native Feb 6 #138

Thanks yellow dahlia Feb 6 #139

I am so happy about this! One worry I have...what happens if they ignore the court order? LiberalLoner Feb 6 #5

We won't know it gab13by13 Feb 6 #30

They no doubt already have the data. arthritisR_US Feb 6 #59

Listen to Michael Popak. He gives a good break down. PortTack Feb 6 #85

Really, not good enough. These people, granted 'read-only' access can simply use their cellphones to copy sinkingfeeling Feb 6 #6

They had more than read only access. travelingthrulife Feb 6 #61

Mission accomplished. Backdoors installed and now the children can work comfortably in their recliners LiberalArkie Feb 6 #7

Or sitting in offices in Beijing or Moscow/Saint Petersburg. erronis Feb 6 #29

But the children doing the work I don't think they realize that Big Iron is designed for backups and LiberalArkie Feb 6 #99

I'm pretty sure you're misreading that order. MineralMan Feb 6 #8

Read only Wifes husband Feb 6 #17

Tom Krause is the CEO of CSG, the parent of Citrix, the REMOTE ACCESS company Prairie Gates Feb 6 #9

If the judge finds out this NOT-TRO is poorly informed, she might issue a superseding order that's a ancianita Feb 6 #16

I was wondering if this order was enough. yellow dahlia Feb 6 #129

Go Norm Go dem4decades Feb 6 #10

Damn! I NEEDED THIS! Thank you, Norm Eisen! Some good news after the overwhelming avalanche of bad... hlthe2b Feb 6 #11

They need to be... 2naSalit Feb 6 #12

Put them on a Space-X starship Seinan Sensei Feb 6 #42

It's too late! LittleGirl Feb 6 #13

And don't be surprised if your refund or Social Security is delayed (forever.) erronis Feb 6 #32

I have to wonder if these young men are aware of how history will judge them Arazi Feb 6 #14

History ? Hell, they'd better worry about how a criminal court will judge them. eppur_se_muova Feb 6 #19

Oh definitely. I'm certain they've broken some serious laws Arazi Feb 6 #25

After what they have done even criminal court may be the least of their worries. hadEnuf Feb 6 #84

This should be treated the same as espionage valleyrogue Feb 6 #23

I'm good with that Arazi Feb 6 #27

We are so far from that with this court order.. halobeam Feb 6 #47

It is GOING to be done. It will be done legally valleyrogue Feb 6 #48

what is going to be done? MadameButterfly Feb 6 #83

I'm not in favor of the death penalty, either, generalbetrayus Feb 6 #86

USAID 'to the wood chipper' GusBob Feb 6 #33

They should be rounded up and sent to Florence ADX or be on death row valleyrogue Feb 6 #52

Unfortunately they'll be pardoned Arazi Feb 6 #58

An insider is going to turn against them one way or the other. valleyrogue Feb 6 #67

We can hope. And sooner than later Arazi Feb 6 #69

What my late dad always said: "If two people know a secret, it isn't a secret anymore." n/t valleyrogue Feb 6 #77

Unless trump/Musk go after what gold is left at Fort Knox, they are not going to get much from disbursement records. Silent Type Feb 6 #15

You forgot the sarcasm thingy gab13by13 Feb 6 #35

Uh... don't they already steal the data? sakabatou Feb 6 #18

My IT business son in NM: Too late. They're already in and have been since last week when the govt portals went down ancianita Feb 6 #20

HUGE malaise Feb 6 #21

That's great. choie Feb 6 #22

My IT business son in NM also says: ancianita Feb 6 #24

Yes Wired.com is crushing it with the coverage Arazi Feb 6 #34

You install the backdoor and the operating system level (or even below). erronis Feb 6 #38

So without any knowledge of this language it's possible? Arazi Feb 6 #41

no not accurate lapfog_1 Feb 6 #76

Thank you. Really interesting Arazi Feb 6 #80

They are slow to change lapfog_1 Feb 6 #89

. Arazi Feb 6 #91

Kara Swisher said something along the lines of they will need to get in there with some "white hat hackers" yellow dahlia Feb 6 #130

it would be very hard to even know where they started lapfog_1 Feb 6 #141

I was just about to post "It doesn't even matter if they 'know' COBOL, because AI most definitely does" AZJonnie Feb 6 #95

mostly to demonstrate just HOW EASY it is to steal everything lapfog_1 Feb 6 #106

Indeed. And the potential for damage simply by having access to a system administrator-level database role AZJonnie Feb 6 #110

See Nathan Tankus's pieces pioche4 Feb 6 #103

Oh he's been on fire! Arazi Feb 6 #118

I read the Tankus piece you linked. yellow dahlia Feb 6 #133

Wired and 404media? I'll take The Guardian and ProPublica, The American Prospect, etc. erronis Feb 6 #36

Wired is legit Arazi Feb 6 #45

Okay, quibble about sources, but the fact of backdoor installation is what the govt portal shutdown was for. ancianita Feb 6 #53

Wired is great Tweedy Feb 6 #64

Should Rebl2 Feb 6 #28

Keep the heat on. ProudMNDemocrat Feb 6 #31

Celebrate, but we won't even know gab13by13 Feb 6 #37

I think they would do it by altering the databases directly. erronis Feb 6 #40

Grateful to Norm Eisen!!! flamingdem Feb 6 #39

Shouldn't this be done by Democrats? Owens Feb 6 #43

It should be done by Americans. n/t eShirl Feb 6 #104

So what are the chances Diraven Feb 6 #44

Too late, the backdoor has probably already been established. Lars39 Feb 6 #49

DOJ attorneys agree to temporarily limit DOGE's access to Treasury payment systems: report LetMyPeopleVote Feb 6 #50

This just legitimizes their prior entry into the system... Think. Again. Feb 6 #56

They'll be pardoned before it ever gets that far Arazi Feb 6 #65

I still hope we'll find our way out from under the nazis, somehow. Think. Again. Feb 6 #70

Same Arazi Feb 6 #71

Solidarity! Think. Again. Feb 6 #73

Somehow. yellow dahlia Feb 6 #134

exactly. It's a Permission Slip. halobeam Feb 6 #79

Good, now we just have to rebuild the entire data system from scratch. Think. Again. Feb 6 #51

Won't happen under this administration Arazi Feb 6 #62

That's true, and we shouldn't trust it if it does. Think. Again. Feb 6 #68

Here is a list of the people who will also have access LetMyPeopleVote Feb 6 #55

If a president can ignore the law then can't he just ignore the courts and pardon anyone who does his bidding? Jansen Feb 6 #75

Are you sure? kansasobama Feb 6 #81

Actually, they didn't block anything. The deed was done a week ago.This will drag out, no one will be brought to justice ancianita Feb 6 #82

will they comply though? LymphocyteLover Feb 6 #96

Who is going to escort Musk & his team from the premises? FakeNoose Feb 6 #97

Keep Blocking 'Em!✊ Daleuhlmann Feb 6 #100

They have to be... 2naSalit Feb 6 #105

Good. But we need an immediate forensic audit to see what was stolen! SunSeeker Feb 6 #111

How would that get implemented? yellow dahlia Feb 6 #136

Yes, an independent audit would have to be ordered by the judge. nt SunSeeker Feb 6 #137

Best of luck enforcing it misanthrope Feb 6 #112

Good! Meowmee Feb 6 #114

Norm Eisen Court win Jjmc Feb 6 #121

Welcome to DU ! KS Toronado Feb 7 #146

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Feb 7 #149

Update: one of the named exemptions (Marko Elez) forced to resign from DOGE for RACISM Prairie Gates Feb 6 #124

They already had access to it though. City Lights Feb 6 #125

True.................. Lovie777 Feb 6 #126

K&R spanone Feb 6 #132

The damage was already done. Karma13612 Feb 6 #135

A court order? Ha! hurple Feb 6 #140

Elon the Nazi stupid IT Goons already migrated these databases to other servers or at least flatfiles. StocktonNative Feb 6 #142

Are Tom Krause & Marko Elez the 20 year goons Elon Ilsa Feb 6 #143

So what about this?? samplegirl Feb 7 #148

Closing the barn door after the horse is gone. Heftylefty Feb 11 #150