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7. Yes, it is the fault of a society that pushes a gun culture, a law that allows private citizens to

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Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:33 PM

Dec 2012

have arsenals able to kill a huge number of people.

The parents should not be blamed because their kid had a mental illness, but, if it is confirmed that one or both of them let the son have access to weapons with a diagnosed mental illness, yes, they would be at fault.

I will carefully wait until the Police says so (as the media have proven unable to check the news they push), but if it is the case, do not tell me they are not responsible.

What worries me as well is the fact that people want to make people with mental illnesses evil. Sorry, but most of them are not even violent. However, after this event, every kid who is somewhat asocial will be seen as a potential killer. I even have seen people talking about autism as the cause of the problem (without any proof).

All that to avoid talking about guns.

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Does the Newtown Massacre have to be anyone's "fault"? Maybe it's [View all] coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 OP

Yes. Mental illness/health is not procured or verified like a blood test in the lab libdem4life Dec 2012 #1

'Genetics run amok' can explain the fetishism of gun culture. nt onehandle Dec 2012 #2

Actually, I don't think there is any explanation that will ever suffice, which is coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #4

Why yes it does. aandegoons Dec 2012 #3

Well put. Reminds me of the Stones' "Sympathy for the Devil" where coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #8

Nancy Lanza's guns were used to kill 20 little kids. She didn't have to buy guns, she chose to. Dems to Win Dec 2012 #5

Do, you have John2 Dec 2012 #6

I have no evidence. I'm just processing feelings, the same as anyone else on this coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #9

Yes, it is the fault of a society that pushes a gun culture, a law that allows private citizens to Mass Dec 2012 #7

Please understand that I fully support efforts to regulate and coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #17

I agree we need to talk about mental illness. Mass Dec 2012 #19

Good point and I definitely appreciate where you are coming from and coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #23

You're right, she is not here to explain anything arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #10

Hmm, I didn't think I was screaming the misogyny foul, merely pointing out that coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #13

No he could not have. Depending on where his arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #20

Oy vey. I think you're missing the point. He could just as easily have grabbed a coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #22

I am not missing the point. The newest fact to come out arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #32

I think we look for ways to separate ourselvesfrom those involved. Saboburns Dec 2012 #11

Yep, it's a bandaid. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #36

coalition grammiepammie Dec 2012 #12

Yeah, I think we are all trying to process our feelings. I used to be a teacher, so coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #14

1927 Most deadly school attack in US history. frank380 Dec 2012 #15

What was the frequency of this happening back in 1927 Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #21

I can't blame the mother for the illnes of the son, or for his actions. rrneck Dec 2012 #16

She gets blamed because she tried to have her cake... TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #18

But the absentee father was also an avid gun collector. Should he not also coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #24

Whose guns did the kid use? Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #26

I wouldn't beat the deadbeat dad drum too loudly. TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #33

People are blaming her not because of her genitalia, but because of her arsenal. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #25

We haven't been reading the same collection of threads I think. Or maybe coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #27

I'm trying to go on the objective pieces of known information, of which there are few Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #28

I think you and I probably agree about 99.999% on this. I suppose I see coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #29

I know. It's a massive, massive tragedy. "Blame" is sort of beside the point, now. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #30

Bravo! I like the cut of your jib, my friend. I think what President coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #31

Well the deaths were homicides so yes, someone is at fault. It was not an accident. yellowcanine Dec 2012 #34

Genetics can't mow down 20 kids in a minute. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #35

Blaming is part of the American psyche. nt LWolf Dec 2012 #37

Yes. Adam Lanza. NT AlexSatan Dec 2012 #38