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erronis

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37. Carl Sagan talked quite a bit about critical thinking and its lack thereof.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 11:04 AM
Mar 2025

From "The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Demon-Haunted_World

What Mack really means when he talks about beings from other
dimensions is that, despite his patients' occasional descriptions of
their experiences as dreams and hallucinations, he hasn't the
foggiest notion of what they are. But, tellingly, when he tries to
describe them, he reaches for physics and mathematics. He wants
it both ways - the language and credibility of science, but without
being bound by its method and rules. He seems not to realize that
the credibility is a consequence of the method.

The main challenge posed by Mack's cases is the old one of
how to teach critical thinking more broadly and more deeply in
a society - conceivably even including Harvard professors of
psychiatry - awash in gullibility. The idea that critical thinking
is the latest western fad is silly. If you're buying a used car in
Singapore or Bangkok, or a used chariot in ancient Susa or
Rome, the same precautions will be useful as in Cambridge,
Massachusetts.


These are all cases of proved or presumptive baloney. A
deception arises, sometimes innocently but collaboratively, some-
times with cynical premeditation. Usually the victim is caught up
in a powerful emotion - wonder, fear, greed, grief. Credulous
acceptance of baloney can cost you money; that's what P.T.
Barnum meant when he said, 'There's a sucker born every
minute'. But it can be much more dangerous than that, and when
governments and societies lose the capacity for critical thinking,
the results can be catastrophic, however sympathetic we may be to
those who have bought the baloney.

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Not if it's prefaced by some inanity EYESORE 9001 Mar 2025 #1
the signs were there for years? I mean, who is driving teslers, or shopping at walmart Nimble_Idea Mar 2025 #2
Wait a minute... Gimpyknee Mar 2025 #31
Not sure if it has ever been fully practiced. cachukis Mar 2025 #3
My grandson has been involved gab13by13 Mar 2025 #6
Of course and you should be very proud. cachukis Mar 2025 #10
I coached my daughter's team back in the day bif Mar 2025 #11
Same way Germans did during WWII SocialDemocrat61 Mar 2025 #4
THIS hadEnuf Mar 2025 #32
It's been a long time coming Bettie Mar 2025 #5
That's what I think also. gab13by13 Mar 2025 #7
Tribalism Sympthsical Mar 2025 #8
Nice post gab13by13 Mar 2025 #12
I still read almost every single day Sympthsical Mar 2025 #18
Fox 🦊 News LessAspin Mar 2025 #9
Nailed it bif Mar 2025 #13
Americans didn't have critical thinking skills before Fox Kaleva Mar 2025 #15
Is there evidence that Americans ever had it? Kaleva Mar 2025 #14
It's amazing how critical thinking is always related to EdmondDantes_ Mar 2025 #40
I was just thinking about this last night Johnny2X2X Mar 2025 #16
I think a look at one religion goes a long way toward answering your question: Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #17
Yep. If you believe that shit, you'll believe pretty much anything . . . . hatrack Mar 2025 #20
And there is a built in indoctrination mechanism in these increasingly popular high-demand congregations. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #23
And it starts with brainwashing children. GreenWave Mar 2025 #42
Social Media. nt. William769 Mar 2025 #19
A way to shorten everyone's attention spans, and to make concentration harder . . . hatrack Mar 2025 #22
We never had it... JCMach1 Mar 2025 #21
During the pandemic, I watched people die because they refused treatment because of MAGA disinformation. Midnight Writer Mar 2025 #24
Same DaBronx Mar 2025 #27
by using non-critical thinking--they get to believe in the reality they want vs. the reality that is cadoman Mar 2025 #25
The majority of Americans never had it. Sneederbunk Mar 2025 #26
Amusing ourselves to death dedl67 Mar 2025 #28
Republicans started to gut education funding in the 70s. Basso8vb Mar 2025 #29
Two culprits undermining the country: The Wizard Mar 2025 #30
There's always been a strong anti-intellectual bias among a certain segment of the American population, along with a Martin68 Mar 2025 #33
I don't see it as a "loss of critical thinking." The reality is that people have always been drawn to populist promises* Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #34
Simple. The GOP has been dismantling public education since the 1960s. n/t TygrBright Mar 2025 #35
Right Wing Media... Happy Hoosier Mar 2025 #36
Carl Sagan talked quite a bit about critical thinking and its lack thereof. erronis Mar 2025 #37
Television, "smart" phones, and substance abuse. Kid Berwyn Mar 2025 #38
Education Jrsygrl96 Mar 2025 #39
Reagan changed the education system. Blue Full Moon Mar 2025 #41
MAGA believes both: J6 was a day of tourism & love; it was a false flag op by antifa & FBI Martin Eden Mar 2025 #43
If most of them are like my sister . . . no_hypocrisy Mar 2025 #44
NCLB was the beginning of the dumb-down. maveric Mar 2025 #45
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