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Mr.WeRP

(1,098 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 01:36 PM Apr 2025

Martial Law is coming. Here is a likely playbook of what happens next [View all]

https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/trump-insurrection-act-april-20-20269810.php

On Jan. 20, Trump issued an executive order tasking the secretaries of the Department of Defense and Department of Homeland Security to submit a joint report, within 90 days, recommending “whether to invoke the Insurrection Act.” The deadline for that report is April 20.

He also replaced the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs with a CPAC-darling who endeared himself to Trump by wearing a MAGA hat. And he fired the Judge Advocate Generals for the Army, Navy and Air Force — the top uniformed lawyers responsible for reviewing the orders from the commander-in-chief and defense secretary to determine whether they’re legal. Trump’s defense secretary explained this action was taken preemptively to prevent the JAGs from blocking “orders that are given by a commander in chief.” Clearing the way, among other things, for the White House to begin consolidating federal law enforcement under military leadership. The Secretary of the Army, for example, in a move consistent with preparing for martial law, was just placed in charge of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), with surprisingly little push back.



Let’s be clear what this adds up to: The man who promised to “declare martial law on day one” has wasted no time taking actions designed to subvert the military to meet this end.
Yet despite Trump’s fondness for blasting through norms, there is one norm upon which his apparent plan, and political survival, depends: the military recognizing him as their commander-in-chief and obeying his orders.
That norm is no more carved in stone than any other.


More at the link but essentially, once Trump issues an order to use the military against the civilian population or any other illegal order, the military, as coded into military law, can remove any executive, including the President, who would violate the Constitution. Ultimately, declaring Martial Law may backfire on Trump. Our only hope, if he does, is that the Military removes him.


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It is supposed to be this Sunday 4/20 NT Tickle Apr 2025 #1
So I've heard EYESORE 9001 Apr 2025 #34
4/20? orleans Apr 2025 #57
😂😂😂 NT Tickle Apr 2025 #63
Sadly it's hitler's bday too questionseverything Apr 2025 #77
"He" is risen? stollen Apr 2025 #59
Hitler's Birthday EarthAbides Apr 2025 #81
It's a trifecta. NT Tickle Apr 2025 #82
Coincidentally, the next national rally against this criminal regime is Saturday, April 19th OMGWTF Apr 2025 #42
On Easter Sunday? Yeah, that's realistic. beaglelover Apr 2025 #76
"...the military...can remove any executive, including the President, who would violate the Constitution." LudwigPastorius Apr 2025 #2
Read the article? Mr.WeRP Apr 2025 #5
The Commander in Chief is not a member of the military and is not bound by military law. LudwigPastorius Apr 2025 #6
You are right of course. Not that it will deter the fear mongers spreading misinformation onenote Apr 2025 #10
They aren't right. Mr.WeRP Apr 2025 #13
Convincing rebuttal. writerJT Apr 2025 #65
You do realize that onenote is a lawyer don't ya? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2025 #79
Yep. And that person is relying writerJT Apr 2025 #66
Under Martial Law there is no Civilian commander Mr.WeRP Apr 2025 #12
Which author is/was a Marine? sl8 Apr 2025 #18
Scroll to the bottom of the article Mr.WeRP Apr 2025 #20
I saw that - it doesn't mention the Marines. sl8 Apr 2025 #21
"Under Martial Law there is no Civilian commander" LudwigPastorius Apr 2025 #25
According to the article, once he declares Martial Law, he becomes a member of the military, as does his 2nd in command Native Apr 2025 #46
I don't know? The corrupt SCOTUS 6's ruling giving him immunity for 'official acts'... brush Apr 2025 #62
The truly scary thing is just how many PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2025 #3
Yes very sad so many federal officers are thrilled to act like Hitler's Gestapo. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #9
Whom could T try to command if the military refuses? BadgerKid Apr 2025 #4
The constitutional sheriff's and all those weird underground militia. taxi Apr 2025 #16
Erik Prince has offered a plan TommyT139 Apr 2025 #28
Blackwater mercenaries may be trained and equipped. AverageOldGuy Apr 2025 #48
You know this is a public website, right? TommyT139 Apr 2025 #52
There's the Gravy Seals and the fearsome Meal Team Six. OMGWTF Apr 2025 #47
I have said before RJ-MacReady Apr 2025 #7
No - just call up the guards first TommyT139 Apr 2025 #30
No it's not. The folks saying it is don't know what "martial law" is. onenote Apr 2025 #8
You could not be more wrong. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #11
So if he declares that the military is in charge of trash collection, that too is martial law? onenote Apr 2025 #22
And the supremes have to decide what martial law is. It is what they say it is. LiberalArkie Apr 2025 #58
Do you think Trump will replace civilian courts with military tribunals? onenote Apr 2025 #67
I do not think anyone but Stephen Miller knows what will be done with Trumps signature LiberalArkie Apr 2025 #71
That sounds dire MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2025 #26
You are way off base bud. Mr.WeRP Apr 2025 #15
Trump doesn't give a flying fuck AverageOldGuy Apr 2025 #45
Politifact: Insurrection Act vs. martial law: What power applies to Trump's April 20 deadline sl8 Apr 2025 #14
LMAO at " lawfully implement martial law" Ursus Rex Apr 2025 #17
Yeah, paraphrasing, they basically said "... but it's Trump, so who knows what he'll try" nt sl8 Apr 2025 #19
Thanks. Of course it won't satisfy the folks who claim otherwise, facts be damned. onenote Apr 2025 #23
Yeah, the article from the OP is clear: Insurrection Act. TommyT139 Apr 2025 #32
"Legal experts said they don't see a clear path for Trump to lawfully implement martial law . . . " AverageOldGuy Apr 2025 #43
Do you think he will shut down civilian courts and replace them with military tribunals? onenote Apr 2025 #69
Our military isn't big enough to manage our population Buckeyeblue Apr 2025 #24
All the bickering here about: SayItLoud Apr 2025 #27
I have no problems with people who dodged the draft BoRaGard Apr 2025 #29
April 20, Hitler's Birthday WiVoter Apr 2025 #31
It's also Easter Sunday which is a BFD in the Xitian cult. OMGWTF Apr 2025 #53
At this point I wouldn't put anything past trump Bayard Apr 2025 #33
Military will 100% back tsf's orders. lark Apr 2025 #35
It's agonizing to read all the posts that are parsing the laws... FoggyLake Apr 2025 #36
Why? WHY! dchill Apr 2025 #37
Remember the song Silent Running in the 1980s bronxiteforever Apr 2025 #38
Trump will play this card. infullview Apr 2025 #39
Project 2025, Chapters 4 and 5 Aviation Pro Apr 2025 #40
The military chain of command is: AverageOldGuy Apr 2025 #41
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State..." CaptainTruth Apr 2025 #44
i went out a bought a firearm today moonshinegnomie Apr 2025 #64
GOP is going to be surprised at how many Dems own firearms Arazi Apr 2025 #78
I've been thinking along those same lines. CaptainTruth Apr 2025 #84
How the military can get rid of Trump without firing a shot... jmowreader Apr 2025 #49
Krasnov already has his "head busters" Botany Apr 2025 #50
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2025 #51
Why do you always repeat yourself??? Doesn't GP6971 Apr 2025 #55
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2025 #54
You sure about that? GP6971 Apr 2025 #56
Gone but not forgotten. sheshe2 Apr 2025 #68
A White Elephant Gift! GP6971 Apr 2025 #73
Psst! MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2025 #74
Thank you! sheshe2 Apr 2025 #75
A peoples militia should be constituted Historic NY Apr 2025 #60
Maybe they figure the Democrats will not notice it, if the do it on international pot smoking day? LiberalArkie Apr 2025 #61
Everyone needs to read the full article. Without military support a tRump coup is doomed to failure. flashman13 Apr 2025 #70
I must have missed something... choie Apr 2025 #72
How would this be enforced? BlueTsunami2018 Apr 2025 #80
I know it's coming. William769 Apr 2025 #83
If true RJ-MacReady Apr 2025 #85
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