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onenote

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67. Do you think Trump will replace civilian courts with military tribunals?
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 04:53 PM
Apr 2025

If he does so, that would be martial law and the Court would have to decide whether it is consistent with precedent that holds military tribunals can act in place of civilian courts only where and when and for as long as those courts are actually unable to function.

But if all he does is authorize the military to perform civilian law enforcement -- something that the Insurrection Act allows in limited circumstances and something that has been done many times in the nation's history, there won't be any point to the Supreme Court saying that this is "martial law" -- the question, if presented to the court, would be whether the Insurrection Act was legitimately invoked. The concept of martial law will play no part in the analysis or decision.

Folks are intent in conflating martial law and the insurrection act. And all that will do is make Trump look less crazy when he doesn't declare martial law but instead invokes the insurrection act and uses it as it has been used before, albeit in a situation where it never has been used before and should not be allowed.

Too often, folks don't seem to realize that by getting caught up in 'worst case' scenarios that are at odds with the law and facts, they end up normlizing what Trump does. For example, earlier this month, a post on DU predicted that the stock market would be down to 10,000 by the end of the month, based on the fact that over a few days it had dropped an average of 1000 a day. Well, I may be going out on a limb, but it certainly seems unlikely that the market will be anywhere near 10,000 two weeks from now. It certainly isn't dropping 1000 every day. So, while the amount it has dropped is very bad, very serious, by making an unrealistic, fear mongering prediction, that poster only minimizes the harm that actually will occur.

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It is supposed to be this Sunday 4/20 NT Tickle Apr 2025 #1
So I've heard EYESORE 9001 Apr 2025 #34
4/20? orleans Apr 2025 #57
😂😂😂 NT Tickle Apr 2025 #63
Sadly it's hitler's bday too questionseverything Apr 2025 #77
"He" is risen? stollen Apr 2025 #59
Hitler's Birthday EarthAbides Apr 2025 #81
It's a trifecta. NT Tickle Apr 2025 #82
Coincidentally, the next national rally against this criminal regime is Saturday, April 19th OMGWTF Apr 2025 #42
On Easter Sunday? Yeah, that's realistic. beaglelover Apr 2025 #76
"...the military...can remove any executive, including the President, who would violate the Constitution." LudwigPastorius Apr 2025 #2
Read the article? Mr.WeRP Apr 2025 #5
The Commander in Chief is not a member of the military and is not bound by military law. LudwigPastorius Apr 2025 #6
You are right of course. Not that it will deter the fear mongers spreading misinformation onenote Apr 2025 #10
They aren't right. Mr.WeRP Apr 2025 #13
Convincing rebuttal. writerJT Apr 2025 #65
You do realize that onenote is a lawyer don't ya? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2025 #79
Yep. And that person is relying writerJT Apr 2025 #66
Under Martial Law there is no Civilian commander Mr.WeRP Apr 2025 #12
Which author is/was a Marine? sl8 Apr 2025 #18
Scroll to the bottom of the article Mr.WeRP Apr 2025 #20
I saw that - it doesn't mention the Marines. sl8 Apr 2025 #21
"Under Martial Law there is no Civilian commander" LudwigPastorius Apr 2025 #25
According to the article, once he declares Martial Law, he becomes a member of the military, as does his 2nd in command Native Apr 2025 #46
I don't know? The corrupt SCOTUS 6's ruling giving him immunity for 'official acts'... brush Apr 2025 #62
The truly scary thing is just how many PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2025 #3
Yes very sad so many federal officers are thrilled to act like Hitler's Gestapo. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #9
Whom could T try to command if the military refuses? BadgerKid Apr 2025 #4
The constitutional sheriff's and all those weird underground militia. taxi Apr 2025 #16
Erik Prince has offered a plan TommyT139 Apr 2025 #28
Blackwater mercenaries may be trained and equipped. AverageOldGuy Apr 2025 #48
You know this is a public website, right? TommyT139 Apr 2025 #52
There's the Gravy Seals and the fearsome Meal Team Six. OMGWTF Apr 2025 #47
I have said before RJ-MacReady Apr 2025 #7
No - just call up the guards first TommyT139 Apr 2025 #30
No it's not. The folks saying it is don't know what "martial law" is. onenote Apr 2025 #8
You could not be more wrong. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #11
So if he declares that the military is in charge of trash collection, that too is martial law? onenote Apr 2025 #22
And the supremes have to decide what martial law is. It is what they say it is. LiberalArkie Apr 2025 #58
Do you think Trump will replace civilian courts with military tribunals? onenote Apr 2025 #67
I do not think anyone but Stephen Miller knows what will be done with Trumps signature LiberalArkie Apr 2025 #71
That sounds dire MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2025 #26
You are way off base bud. Mr.WeRP Apr 2025 #15
Trump doesn't give a flying fuck AverageOldGuy Apr 2025 #45
Politifact: Insurrection Act vs. martial law: What power applies to Trump's April 20 deadline sl8 Apr 2025 #14
LMAO at " lawfully implement martial law" Ursus Rex Apr 2025 #17
Yeah, paraphrasing, they basically said "... but it's Trump, so who knows what he'll try" nt sl8 Apr 2025 #19
Thanks. Of course it won't satisfy the folks who claim otherwise, facts be damned. onenote Apr 2025 #23
Yeah, the article from the OP is clear: Insurrection Act. TommyT139 Apr 2025 #32
"Legal experts said they don't see a clear path for Trump to lawfully implement martial law . . . " AverageOldGuy Apr 2025 #43
Do you think he will shut down civilian courts and replace them with military tribunals? onenote Apr 2025 #69
Our military isn't big enough to manage our population Buckeyeblue Apr 2025 #24
All the bickering here about: SayItLoud Apr 2025 #27
I have no problems with people who dodged the draft BoRaGard Apr 2025 #29
April 20, Hitler's Birthday WiVoter Apr 2025 #31
It's also Easter Sunday which is a BFD in the Xitian cult. OMGWTF Apr 2025 #53
At this point I wouldn't put anything past trump Bayard Apr 2025 #33
Military will 100% back tsf's orders. lark Apr 2025 #35
It's agonizing to read all the posts that are parsing the laws... FoggyLake Apr 2025 #36
Why? WHY! dchill Apr 2025 #37
Remember the song Silent Running in the 1980s bronxiteforever Apr 2025 #38
Trump will play this card. infullview Apr 2025 #39
Project 2025, Chapters 4 and 5 Aviation Pro Apr 2025 #40
The military chain of command is: AverageOldGuy Apr 2025 #41
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State..." CaptainTruth Apr 2025 #44
i went out a bought a firearm today moonshinegnomie Apr 2025 #64
GOP is going to be surprised at how many Dems own firearms Arazi Apr 2025 #78
I've been thinking along those same lines. CaptainTruth Apr 2025 #84
How the military can get rid of Trump without firing a shot... jmowreader Apr 2025 #49
Krasnov already has his "head busters" Botany Apr 2025 #50
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2025 #51
Why do you always repeat yourself??? Doesn't GP6971 Apr 2025 #55
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2025 #54
You sure about that? GP6971 Apr 2025 #56
Gone but not forgotten. sheshe2 Apr 2025 #68
A White Elephant Gift! GP6971 Apr 2025 #73
Psst! MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2025 #74
Thank you! sheshe2 Apr 2025 #75
A peoples militia should be constituted Historic NY Apr 2025 #60
Maybe they figure the Democrats will not notice it, if the do it on international pot smoking day? LiberalArkie Apr 2025 #61
Everyone needs to read the full article. Without military support a tRump coup is doomed to failure. flashman13 Apr 2025 #70
I must have missed something... choie Apr 2025 #72
How would this be enforced? BlueTsunami2018 Apr 2025 #80
I know it's coming. William769 Apr 2025 #83
If true RJ-MacReady Apr 2025 #85
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