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112. I've written extensively on this, providing receipts.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 10:15 PM
Jul 2025

...zero of the critics that respond to me have provided anywhere near the same.

I daresay, none of them have provided ANY evidence to back up their claims, except to point to the time passed while Garland was AG.

It makes little sense to deride someone for an evidenced defense while, at the very same time, providing nothing at all to back up what you're saying.

I'm a completist. I've brought actual receipts to those discussions.

But tell us, do you believe delaying an indictment from trial which came down in Aug. 2023, more than enough time to try in court until it was made moot in Nov. 2024, is some normal and proper action by the judges and justices? In what universe?

Did you miss that the Supreme Court delayed their hearing for months, and delayed their decision for even more months until right before the election?

Are we supposed to ignore that treasonous interference in the election and the judges and justice's anti-constitutional immunity rulings and pretend it's actually the people prosecuting him are the ones at fault?

The expectation that I should be ashamed of stating facts in dispute of blaming the people working overtime to prosecute Trump is mindblowingly Orwellian.

I'm always surprised how people persist with these inanities with me, of all people. Curious. I'm always going to respond with facts.

We're talking about the man appointed Jack Smith, on his own, in the face of the very same critics who started out claiming he was appointed to slow the probe.

Claiming Garland could, or should have just come into office and prosecuted Trump for obstruction of justice in the Mueller case is so legally flawed that it's amazing that anyone would think this is a representation of how our justice system works, much less try to convince anyone with just a basic understanding of the law.

But this complaint that Garland was late to the prosecution of Trump, or didn't want to prosecute has been refuted so many times...

The man not only prosecuted thousands of Capitol rioters, convicted hundreds of the white supremacists of charges up to the sedition and interference of government that is directly associated with Trump's criminal efforts; the man appointed the SC on his own volition who brought two historic multi-felony indictments against a former president.

Pretending, as his critics do, that he was less concerned with the swift prosecution of Trump than than these backbiters who can't even be bothered to look at the details of the prosecution and discuss them is just silliness.

But let me make this perfectly clear. Almost ALL of the critics are drafting off of the SAME WaPo article by Carol Leonning, which talks about some internal dispute that someone leaked to her, a report which was so negligently false and incomplete that it's basically fiction.

receipts:

___ Jack Smith takes over a staff that’s already nearly twice the size of Robert Mueller’s team of lawyers who worked on the Russia probe.  A team of 20 prosecutors investigating January 6 and the effort to overturn the 2020 election are in the process of moving to work under Smith, according to multiple people familiar with the team.

Smith will also take on national security investigators already working the probe into the potential mishandling of federal records taken to Mar-a-Lago after Trump left the White House.

Together, the twin investigations have already established more evidence than what Mueller started with, including from a year-long financial probe that’s largely flown under the radar.

“Mueller was starting virtually from scratch, whereas Jack Smith is seemingly integrating on the fly into an active, fast-moving investigation,” said Elie Honig, a former federal prosecutor and senior CNN legal analyst.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/11/politics/jack-smith-special-counsel-high-profile-moves-trump-criminal-investigations/index.html


____the other investigative team, looking at efforts to block the transfer of power from Trump to President Joe Biden after the 2020 election, had even a year ago been given the greenlight by the Justice Department to take a case all the way up to Trump, if the evidence leads them there, according to the sources. Work that’s been led by the DC US Attorney’s Office into political circles around Trump related to January 6 now will move under the special counsel.

Partly led by former Maryland-based federal prosecutor Thomas Windom, DOJ has added prosecutors to the January 6 team from all over the department in recent months. Windom and the rest are also expected to move over to the special counsel’s office. Some, like Mary Dohrmann, a prosecutor who’s worked on several other Capitol riot cases already, appear to be reorienting, according to court records of open Capitol riot cases.   

Another top prosecutor, JP Cooney, the former head of public corruption in the DC US Attorney’s Office, is overseeing a significant financial probe that Smith will take on. The probe includes examining the possible misuse of political contributions, according to some of the sources. The DC US Attorney’s Office, before the special counsel’s arrival, had examined potential financial crimes related to the January 6 riot, including possible money laundering and the support of rioters’ hotel stays and bus trips to Washington ahead of January 6.

In recent months, however, the financial investigation has sought information about Trump’s post-election Save America PAC and other funding of people who assisted Trump, according to subpoenas viewed by CNN. The financial investigation picked up steam as DOJ investigators enlisted cooperators months after the 2021 riot, one of the sources said.

In interviews with people in Trump’s orbit over the past several months, some of the DOJ focus has been on the timeline leading up to January 6 and Trump’s involvement and knowledge of potential events that day, according to a source familiar with the questioning.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/11/politics/jack-smith-special-counsel-high-profile-moves-trump-criminal-investigations/index.html

Before Jack Smith was appointed, Merrick Garland:

Seized John Eastman's phone
Seized Jeffrey Clark's phone
Seized Scott Perry's emails
Seized Eastman's emails
Seized Epshteyn's phone
Seized Mike Lindell's phone
Seized Mike Roman's phone
Seized Scott Perry's phone
Got Kash Patel's testimony
Appointed Windom
Appointed Cooney
Subpoenaed the fraudulent electors
Subpoenaed 7 state's election officials
Subpoenaed Sidney's PAC
Subpoenaed Rudy
Opened IG probe into Clark
Opened IG probe into DoJ response to 1/6
Negotiated subpoena for Meadows
Battled the 11th circuit for classified docs
Subpoenaed trump for classified docs
Subpoenaed trump for surveillance video
Executed a search warrant on trump
Convicted Bannon of contempt
Indicted Navarro for contempt
Subpoenaed the speakers from 1/6
Subpoenaed the organizers of 1/6
Secured seditious conspiracy convictions
Subpoenaed records for any member of congress involved in 1/6
Subpoenaed info on Jenna Ellis
Secured testimony from Mark Short
Secured testimony from Jacob Engel
Secured testimony from Philbin
Secured testimony from Cippollone
Subpoenaed info on trump's PACs
Won privilege battles for Short, Engel, and the Pats
Negotiated for Pence's subpoena
Seized the phone records of Meadows
Secured the 1/6 committee transcripts
Subpoenaed 7 secretaries of state


...show me ONE DOJ which has brought more charges against republicans than this one, and has opened more investigations into republicans than Merrick Garland's.

There isn't any one that comes even close.



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There's milquetoast and then there's MILQUETOAST..... Blue Owl Jul 2025 #1
And then there's federalist society stoogetoast. Think. Again. Jul 2025 #16
Yeah. Apparently the Biden administration was LuvLoogie Jul 2025 #23
Yes. Worst than Barr, and that's saying a lot. Burnt toast maybe who couldn't be scraped. brush Jul 2025 #29
Biden's biggest regret. Mr.WeRP Jul 2025 #2
Bondi Rebl2 Jul 2025 #7
She's bad, all right. trump bribed her for just 25k. brush Jul 2025 #32
Biden could have fired him at any time MichMan Jul 2025 #24
Exactly. And Biden could have appointed Postal Governors Bluetus Jul 2025 #102
I wonder why president biden didnt fire garland. If he would have, the world would be totally different now Trueblue1968 Jul 2025 #135
People are comfy on their perches Hornedfrog2000 Jul 2025 #148
President Biden didn't have to do anything... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #28
Has Biden expressed regrets about Garland? JoseBalow Jul 2025 #51
Yep, he has. Sogo Jul 2025 #60
"may have been a misstep." JoseBalow Jul 2025 #67
"Reportedly" MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2025 #81
Yes, he has for multiple reasons EdmondDantes_ Jul 2025 #65
Garland Is America's Worst Attorney General. ... His failure to hold Trump accountable doomed us. walkingman Jul 2025 #3
Hell yes ILikePie92 Jul 2025 #11
Pick your preferred AG Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #21
anyone but him Skittles Jul 2025 #30
Your lack of understanding of the facts aside... Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #39
THEY SHOULD HAVE TRIED Skittles Jul 2025 #86
Appoint a Special Counsel ti investigate J6 in month 1. speak easy Jul 2025 #152
You misunderstand the role and authority of a special counsel Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #153
The point is Jack Smith was appointed too late. speak easy Jul 2025 #155
The point is you don't understand the rationale for appointing a special counsel Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #159
That is the legal redux. speak easy Jul 2025 #160
Nope Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #162
" already had "centralized planning and execution".. speak easy Jul 2025 #164
One anonymous source... Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #167
Why you are holding a Candle for Garland's DOJ is beyond me. Why? speak easy Jul 2025 #169
Why you are giving the Roberts court, who had all the power and is the true villain of this story, a pass, is beyond me Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #170
Alternative history is bunk. You know that. speak easy Jul 2025 #171
Indeed it is the bunk Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #172
I think not waiting A YEAR before beginning any type of process is a good example of what another AG could've done Alpeduez21 Jul 2025 #50
You're in luck! Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #69
Regardless Merrick Garland failed. nt PufPuf23 Jul 2025 #124
Did Garland actually fail? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #127
Maybe I missed the part where Garland was in charge of that Alpeduez21 Jul 2025 #166
Go back and check your calendar Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #168
Bobby Kennedy (Sr) MLWR Jul 2025 #62
Not even Bobby could have circumvented the obstruction of the Roberts Court. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #70
Probably (Sigh, even after 57 yrs) electric_blue68 Jul 2025 #117
Since the January 6th insurrection happened in 2021, the DOJ would/should have begun walkingman Jul 2025 #76
they should have et tu Jul 2025 #89
You mean 2021, but YES! All YES! BaronChocula Jul 2025 #93
I thought it was January 2021? MichMan Jul 2025 #99
Like I said, "faster" is not the correct answer Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #126
The bottom line is people with power/wealth are not held accountable for their actions....very often. walkingman Jul 2025 #128
Well, that is indeed true Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #129
Strike while the iron is hot. The longer Garland waited the less public pressure to do his job LiberalLovinLug Jul 2025 #149
Just because you can imagine something and type it on the internet Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #150
Agree to disagree. LiberalLovinLug Jul 2025 #175
Cherry picking facts doesn't change the reality of the story Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #176
All of that and markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #98
Fuck MAGA's feelings. I don't give a squirt of cat piss how the fuck they would have reacted. Fuck 'em. SoFlaBro Jul 2025 #132
If the magas begin to markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #134
"OH NOES LET'S NOT DO ANYTHING THEN" durablend Jul 2025 #143
He took office in March od 2021 edhopper Jul 2025 #154
You misunderstand the role and authority of the special counsel. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #158
Don't agree edhopper Jul 2025 #161
Did Garland actually fail? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #163
John Mitchell is up at the top of the list too Wicked Blue Jul 2025 #88
I agree with your points. mjvpi Jul 2025 #106
If the documents are released... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #4
They're hiding something mzmolly Jul 2025 #10
You may well be right... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #13
Good point. They'll try to cover it up and mzmolly Jul 2025 #34
Nope. Garland was an idiot or he was in on lettng trump skate. brush Jul 2025 #38
I guess that's where we may differ SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #40
Naivete. Tsk, tsk. Meek Garland could've stopped trump early on by taking charge of... brush Jul 2025 #52
Fitzmas. Yeah. Can't even see an un-redacted Mueller report. Transparency and Evolve Dammit Jul 2025 #41
So the fact that the files were placed under seal by a judge until 2024 makes no difference then? Bev54 Jul 2025 #54
I'm convinced it's the latter n/t hoffyburger Jul 2025 #61
Granted, however it is abundantly clear misanthrope Jul 2025 #95
Very, very, very irresponsible idiot! jrthin Jul 2025 #5
Huge money transfers and failure of the banks to moniss Jul 2025 #6
Remember Garland was nominated to Supreme Court delisen Jul 2025 #8
Yes! ILikePie92 Jul 2025 #12
In the spirit of the damn "bipartisanship" that never goes two ways... Justice matters. Jul 2025 #56
There are two parts at play: yes, Merrick Garland was too meek for the job, but also... W_HAMILTON Jul 2025 #9
What kind? ILikePie92 Jul 2025 #14
Post removed Post removed Jul 2025 #15
Sitting on what? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #17
Sitting on records of 4700 wire transfers worth $1.1 B through Epstein russian accounts for sex trafficking, for one nt lostnfound Jul 2025 #73
Weakness of a top official in a position of great consequence to the nation should both be criminal and treasonous DSandra Jul 2025 #18
Fedralist type Kali999 Jul 2025 #63
Garland's a moderate Democrat and is not associated with the Federalist Society. DU is fact-based and emulatorloo Jul 2025 #105
https://fedsoc.org/contributors/merrick-garland asm128 Jul 2025 #177
You're wrong. Reading is fundamental ASM: emulatorloo Jul 2025 #178
Protecting pedophile billionaires Blue Full Moon Jul 2025 #19
Sitting on that wasn't even the worst thing he did. Waiting 2 years to bring charges against Trump for trying to Fil1957 Jul 2025 #20
how do you know what Garland had access to? bigtree Jul 2025 #22
You know that never matters MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2025 #36
I'm wondering why this should matter as much to Democrats bigtree Jul 2025 #53
Totally agree. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2025 #59
Because it was an opportunity to put Trump away iemanja Jul 2025 #68
no there wasn't bigtree Jul 2025 #72
if you have evidence, it's incumbent on you to provide it iemanja Jul 2025 #100
I've written extensively on this, providing receipts. bigtree Jul 2025 #112
So you have no evidence on the point at hand iemanja Jul 2025 #119
That is a disgusting accusation MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2025 #113
Sorry! I meant Garland. Will edit. iemanja Jul 2025 #115
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Jul 2025 #116
It was a typo, and I profusely apologize iemanja Jul 2025 #120
okay bigtree Jul 2025 #121
Noting that you defend Garland is not a personal attack iemanja Jul 2025 #122
the AG who prosecuted Trump? bigtree Jul 2025 #123
Your "facts" are not facts iemanja Jul 2025 #130
I'm no fan of Merrick Garland but this is one thing I am not going to blame him for. tulipsandroses Jul 2025 #136
that makes sense bigtree Jul 2025 #141
Oh I agree it is suspicious. I am just suggesting that unless there is direct evidence of a crime, Garland had no reason tulipsandroses Jul 2025 #144
right bigtree Jul 2025 #146
Yes. While I want democrats to be more aggressive, there are certain lines we just should not cross. tulipsandroses Jul 2025 #147
Because he was Attorney General iemanja Jul 2025 #64
Well, markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #25
Harvard Skittles Jul 2025 #87
I was going to make a snide comment about markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #91
I think it was Yale that Dubya went to. . . Stargleamer Jul 2025 #165
Good question, I kept asking myself. Speculating on a few theories that I dissmissed in short order, msfiddlestix Jul 2025 #114
Threatening a public official, or their family, markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #133
One word UpInArms Jul 2025 #26
Two words: Silly nonsense. tritsofme Jul 2025 #35
Whatever UpInArms Jul 2025 #82
Uh...how is any of that related to your false smear of him as a Republican? tritsofme Jul 2025 #83
Garland's a moderate Democrat. DU's a fact based site. We ought to keep it that way. emulatorloo Jul 2025 #107
Turncoat Nasruddin Jul 2025 #27
All Presidents since Nixon until this one respected the independence of the DOJ. There's your answer. Cheezoholic Jul 2025 #31
I remember people trying to cover for him. I was too, at first. flying_wahini Jul 2025 #33
Post removed Post removed Jul 2025 #37
I'm just guessing......... damifino10 Jul 2025 #42
Both Biden and Garland were "institutionalists." Neither were equipped to rise to the moment they were faced with... Ol Janx Spirit Jul 2025 #43
The lesson for the future LPBBEAR Jul 2025 #44
He's good friends with Trump's lawyers. AStern Jul 2025 #45
source for that? LymphocyteLover Jul 2025 #71
My bad. His lifelong best friend and mentor is Jared Kushner's lawyer. Not Trump. But still AStern Jul 2025 #74
could the reason you didn't mention her name be because she was Clinton's Deputy Ag bigtree Jul 2025 #78
Still. Kushner. Trump. It's all in the family. Autumn Jul 2025 #96
Then you should maybe delete that post, because it is totally false. emulatorloo Jul 2025 #110
But it's not false. AStern Jul 2025 #137
Yes what you wrote in #45 is false. You wrote "He's good friends with Trump's lawyers." emulatorloo Jul 2025 #140
You should be more upset that he didn't hold MAGA accountable rather than with DUers negative reactions AStern Jul 2025 #156
It's amazing to see people still defending him. BannonsLiver Jul 2025 #46
The most important thing is to avoid the appearance of a political agenda Orrex Jul 2025 #48
Yes. And nobody has done that better than Garland. He's all-world at that one thing. In a class of his own. BannonsLiver Jul 2025 #49
True.... Escape Jul 2025 #66
I think some of it is out of loyalty to Biden. BannonsLiver Jul 2025 #75
Oh heavens! Merrick Garland! Oopsie Daisy Jul 2025 #47
Why didn't Biden replace him The Wizard Jul 2025 #55
well, he didn't have one bit of authority to replace DeJoy bigtree Jul 2025 #80
Garland enabled this shit. BradBo Jul 2025 #57
Um Roberts Supreme Court enabled this shit more than anyone else. They made Trump a King. emulatorloo Jul 2025 #108
Garland is complicit. nt LexVegas Jul 2025 #58
I saw him as the wrong man for the job Warpy Jul 2025 #77
Post removed Post removed Jul 2025 #79
Merrick the Meek republianmushroom Jul 2025 #84
Some say he was a pitbull in the court room Montauk6 Jul 2025 #85
What kind of irresponible IDIOTS were those who refused to vote for VP Harris by either voting third party, lostincalifornia Jul 2025 #90
i feel it is more et tu Jul 2025 #92
I ask myself this daily. orangecrush Jul 2025 #94
Maybe there was a reason Polybius Jul 2025 #97
Democrats have a sad tendency to appoint republicans. Buzz cook Jul 2025 #101
Except Garland's not a Republican. We should keep DU fact-based. Even if it feels good to make stuff up. emulatorloo Jul 2025 #104
Has he ever ran for political office? AI says he is Emile Jul 2025 #109
No he's always been in the law Buzz cook Jul 2025 #174
Conservative then. Buzz cook Jul 2025 #173
Biden regrets picking Garland. BannonsLiver Jul 2025 #145
Bullshit. He was following the President and precedent. Kid Berwyn Jul 2025 #103
it's infuriating! I thought he was just sitting on the coup. Didn't realize he was sitting ecstatic Jul 2025 #111
A Complicit One WiVoter Jul 2025 #118
He's just a HUGE Faux pas Jul 2025 #125
I'm starting to wonder what Rupert Murdoch has on Merrick Garland. Initech Jul 2025 #131
For a year I've told DU detractors this, and I'll say it here again: AG Merrick Garland was not waiting. ancianita Jul 2025 #138
You don't call waiting a year and a half edhopper Jul 2025 #157
Mueller was not "permitted" to indict a sitting president. Cetacea Jul 2025 #139
Patience, grasshoppers. This isn't a Law & Order episode. Garland is working very hard behind the Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #142
Didn't Mueller popsdenver Jul 2025 #151
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