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In reply to the discussion: What kind of iirresponsible idiot was Merrick Garland? [View all]ancianita
(43,394 posts)138. For a year I've told DU detractors this, and I'll say it here again: AG Merrick Garland was not waiting.
Last edited Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:55 AM - Edit history (1)
Nor was former AG Garland guilty of not prosecuting and trying to meet the "speedy trial" standard as it applied to Trump's criminal cases.Before ANY DOJ indictments and court filings can be made, a thorough investigation and collection of evidence must take place -- none of which DU'ers saw while it was happening.
Because the FBI is DOJ, Garland's FBI began arrests ON Jan 6 2021 -- two months before his confirmation -- and Garland DOJ convictions continued until the week after the 2024 election.
During the months of FBI arrest actions, Garland was prosecuting new AND outstanding cases,
all while trying to rebuild the Barr DOJ personnel, trying to place Senate confirmed assistant AGs, deputies, and 8 Division heads. ANY delays in Senate confirmations in Garlands first year were caused by Republicans, not Garland.
1. Again. Before Garlands investigation and prosecutions work could begin...
Garland himself wasn't confirmed with Republican votes until TWO months after Biden's 2021 inauguration;
Republicans STILL made Garland wait months for his division heads' confirmations;
Republicans did not confirm Kenneth Polite to head the DOJ's Criminal Division until July 2021 -- SIX MONTHS after Biden's inauguration;
Because they knew the Criminal Division would handle both federal cases under Garland.
2. Here's the Garland DOJ evidence gathering timeline -- BEFORE Jack Smith made any indictments.
By January 6 2022 (10 months after his confirmation): Garland states:
So far, we have
-- issued over 5,000 subpoenas and search warrants,
-- seized approximately 2,000 devices,
-- pored through over 20,000 hours of video footage, and
-- searched through an estimated 15 terabytes of data...
-- received over 300,000 tips from ordinary citizens, who have been our indispensable partners in this effort.
Garland actions above contributed to Special Counsel investigations.
In other words, Garland handed off all the documents case evidence to Jack Smith.
Jan 2022
15 boxes found in the storage area
the FBI found more than 11,000 government records at Maralago of those
184 unique documents bearing classification markings, of those:
67 docs marked Confidential
92 docs marked Secret
25 docs marked Top Secret
markings reflected that docs were subject to sensitive compartments and dissemination controls
used to restrict access to material in the interest of national security, including
HCS(Humint Control system),
FISA(Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act),
ORCON (originator controlled),
NORORN (could be NOFORN, no foreign national), AND
SI(Special Intelligence)
May 2022
The first 100 documents marked as classified totaled over 700 pages [National Archives letter to Trump attorney, May 10, 2022]
May 11 2022: Garland convenes four DOJ Grand juries, one for Jan 6 convened until March 2024 -- 6 months before Jack Smith walked in the door
Grand Jury subpoenas Trump for documents
June 3 2022
Trump lawyer hands over 40 boxes from Maralago storage room
38 docs marked Classified
June 3 2022:
Garland's DOJ Grand jury subpoenas Trump for remaining docs in Maralago;
lawyers for Trump "certify" that there were no more;
Trump stole 11,000 government docs, 300 classified docs the Garland DOJ's FBI found more than Trump's lawyers certified as recovered.
July 22 2022: G
arland's Grand jury testimony by Marc Short, Mike Pences Chief of Staff, & Short's counsel Greg Jacob
August 8 2022
FBI warrant search of Maralago
103 marked Classified
18 marked Top Secret
The law violated: - 18 U.S.C. 793 Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information.
Penalty: Fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
More on the indictability of these stolen defense-classified documents:
https://www.justsecurity.org/83034/tracker-evidence-of-trumps-knowledge-and-involvement-in-retaining-mar-a-lago-documents/
Sept 2 2022:
Garland's Grand jury subpoenaed testimony by Pat Cipollone,
a) one of the participants in WH meeting Dec 18 2020, that included Giuliani, Powell, Flynn, Patrick Byrne of Overstock,
b) Cipollone sat in on Jan 3 2021 DOJ official meeting with Trump, and
c) Cipollone was in direct contact with trump on Jan 6 during capitol insurrection, and did nothing when Meadows told him Trump didnt want to interfere with rioters calling for hanging Mike Pence)
AND with Patrick Philbin
Sept 15 2022:
Garland's Grand Jury subpoenas Mark Meadows for testimony and documents
the month of Sept 2022: Garland's DOJ issued over 40 subpoenas to people close to Trump, some of whom are
Bill Stepien, DTs campaign mgr; part of team to prevent certification
Sean Dollman, DTs campaign CFO
Ben Williamson, Deputy of Mark Meadows,
Boris Epshteyn, Trump's lawyer -- phone demanded; part of team to prevent certification
Mike Lindell -- phone seized
William Russell, WH special asst to Trump, THEN special aide to Trump in Mar-a-lago
Oct 6 2022: Garland's Grand jury calls back Greg Jacob
Oct 13 2022: Garland's Grand Jury calls back Marc Short, Pence's chief of staff
Nov 4 2022:
classified docs found in Bidens
-- Wilmington home (garage, library), (no docs in Rehoboth beach home) and
-- Penn Biden Center in DC (Richard Sauber is spec counsel to Pres Biden)
Nov 14 2022: Garland asks John Lausch (Trump appointed US Atty, Chicago) to review found Biden documents
3. Nov 18 2022 Garland appoints Jack Smith (3 days after Trump announces his candidacy for 2024), who inherits the records of the Garland DOJ's work.
Jack Smith took charge of over 20 Garland prosecutors and integrated his work into what was described as a 'fast moving investigation' which had already gathered more evidence than Special Counsel Mueller ever had.
By that very day, Nov 18 2022, Garland's DOJ had convicted more than 323 Jan 6 insurrectionists.
All of the above documents case evidence AND DC grand jury evidence gathered -- all that is what AG Merrick Garland and his DOJ did before his appointment of Special Counsel Jack Smith.
Garland himself could not possibly know how long it would take SC Jack Smith's team to file indictments.
But the first documents case indictment was filed June 8 2023, based mostly on work previously done by Garland's Criminal Division/FBI investigators and Garland's grand juries.
ANY delays by the courts -- entertaining defense motions, hearings, more motions -- are not the fault of AG Garland or his Special Counsel, Jack Smth.
For DU'ers triggered by the mention of Garland,
-- this timeline of his work will forever remain the facts of Garland's Jan 6 investigations and evidence collections during his first 20 months in office...
-- this timeline, posted at least 10 times over the last year, also establishes DU's Garland haters' willful ignorance and therefore stupidity, of the fact of AG Garland's work, and AG Garland's wisdom in choosing Jack Smith from the Hague as Special Counsel to carry on his work.
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Yes. Worst than Barr, and that's saying a lot. Burnt toast maybe who couldn't be scraped.
brush
Jul 2025
#29
I wonder why president biden didnt fire garland. If he would have, the world would be totally different now
Trueblue1968
Jul 2025
#135
Garland Is America's Worst Attorney General. ... His failure to hold Trump accountable doomed us.
walkingman
Jul 2025
#3
The point is you don't understand the rationale for appointing a special counsel
Fiendish Thingy
Jul 2025
#159
Why you are giving the Roberts court, who had all the power and is the true villain of this story, a pass, is beyond me
Fiendish Thingy
Jul 2025
#170
I think not waiting A YEAR before beginning any type of process is a good example of what another AG could've done
Alpeduez21
Jul 2025
#50
Not even Bobby could have circumvented the obstruction of the Roberts Court.
Fiendish Thingy
Jul 2025
#70
Since the January 6th insurrection happened in 2021, the DOJ would/should have begun
walkingman
Jul 2025
#76
The bottom line is people with power/wealth are not held accountable for their actions....very often.
walkingman
Jul 2025
#128
Strike while the iron is hot. The longer Garland waited the less public pressure to do his job
LiberalLovinLug
Jul 2025
#149
Fuck MAGA's feelings. I don't give a squirt of cat piss how the fuck they would have reacted. Fuck 'em.
SoFlaBro
Jul 2025
#132
Naivete. Tsk, tsk. Meek Garland could've stopped trump early on by taking charge of...
brush
Jul 2025
#52
Fitzmas. Yeah. Can't even see an un-redacted Mueller report. Transparency and
Evolve Dammit
Jul 2025
#41
So the fact that the files were placed under seal by a judge until 2024 makes no difference then?
Bev54
Jul 2025
#54
In the spirit of the damn "bipartisanship" that never goes two ways...
Justice matters.
Jul 2025
#56
There are two parts at play: yes, Merrick Garland was too meek for the job, but also...
W_HAMILTON
Jul 2025
#9
Sitting on records of 4700 wire transfers worth $1.1 B through Epstein russian accounts for sex trafficking, for one nt
lostnfound
Jul 2025
#73
Weakness of a top official in a position of great consequence to the nation should both be criminal and treasonous
DSandra
Jul 2025
#18
Garland's a moderate Democrat and is not associated with the Federalist Society. DU is fact-based and
emulatorloo
Jul 2025
#105
Sitting on that wasn't even the worst thing he did. Waiting 2 years to bring charges against Trump for trying to
Fil1957
Jul 2025
#20
I'm no fan of Merrick Garland but this is one thing I am not going to blame him for.
tulipsandroses
Jul 2025
#136
Oh I agree it is suspicious. I am just suggesting that unless there is direct evidence of a crime, Garland had no reason
tulipsandroses
Jul 2025
#144
Yes. While I want democrats to be more aggressive, there are certain lines we just should not cross.
tulipsandroses
Jul 2025
#147
Good question, I kept asking myself. Speculating on a few theories that I dissmissed in short order,
msfiddlestix
Jul 2025
#114
Garland's a moderate Democrat. DU's a fact based site. We ought to keep it that way.
emulatorloo
Jul 2025
#107
All Presidents since Nixon until this one respected the independence of the DOJ. There's your answer.
Cheezoholic
Jul 2025
#31
Both Biden and Garland were "institutionalists." Neither were equipped to rise to the moment they were faced with...
Ol Janx Spirit
Jul 2025
#43
My bad. His lifelong best friend and mentor is Jared Kushner's lawyer. Not Trump. But still
AStern
Jul 2025
#74
could the reason you didn't mention her name be because she was Clinton's Deputy Ag
bigtree
Jul 2025
#78
Yes what you wrote in #45 is false. You wrote "He's good friends with Trump's lawyers."
emulatorloo
Jul 2025
#140
You should be more upset that he didn't hold MAGA accountable rather than with DUers negative reactions
AStern
Jul 2025
#156
Yes. And nobody has done that better than Garland. He's all-world at that one thing. In a class of his own.
BannonsLiver
Jul 2025
#49
Um Roberts Supreme Court enabled this shit more than anyone else. They made Trump a King.
emulatorloo
Jul 2025
#108
What kind of irresponible IDIOTS were those who refused to vote for VP Harris by either voting third party,
lostincalifornia
Jul 2025
#90
Except Garland's not a Republican. We should keep DU fact-based. Even if it feels good to make stuff up.
emulatorloo
Jul 2025
#104
it's infuriating! I thought he was just sitting on the coup. Didn't realize he was sitting
ecstatic
Jul 2025
#111
For a year I've told DU detractors this, and I'll say it here again: AG Merrick Garland was not waiting.
ancianita
Jul 2025
#138
Patience, grasshoppers. This isn't a Law & Order episode. Garland is working very hard behind the
Scrivener7
Jul 2025
#142