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ancianita

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138. For a year I've told DU detractors this, and I'll say it here again: AG Merrick Garland was not waiting.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 06:25 AM
Jul 2025

Last edited Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:55 AM - Edit history (1)

Nor was former AG Garland guilty of not prosecuting and trying to meet the "speedy trial" standard as it applied to Trump's criminal cases.

Before ANY DOJ indictments and court filings can be made, a thorough investigation and collection of evidence must take place -- none of which DU'ers saw while it was happening.

Because the FBI is DOJ, Garland's FBI began arrests ON Jan 6 2021 -- two months before his confirmation -- and Garland DOJ convictions continued until the week after the 2024 election.

During the months of FBI arrest actions, Garland was prosecuting new AND outstanding cases,
all while trying to rebuild the Barr DOJ personnel, trying to place Senate confirmed assistant AG’s, deputies, and 8 Division heads. ANY delays in Senate confirmations in Garland’s first year were caused by Republicans, not Garland.


1. Again. Before Garland’s investigation and prosecutions work could begin...

Garland himself wasn't confirmed with Republican votes until TWO months after Biden's 2021 inauguration;
Republicans STILL made Garland wait months for his division heads' confirmations;
Republicans did not confirm Kenneth Polite to head the DOJ's Criminal Division until July 2021 -- SIX MONTHS after Biden's inauguration;
Because they knew the Criminal Division would handle both federal cases under Garland.

2. Here's the Garland DOJ evidence gathering timeline -- BEFORE Jack Smith made any indictments.

By January 6 2022 (10 months after his confirmation): Garland states:
“So far, we have
-- issued over 5,000 subpoenas and search warrants,
-- seized approximately 2,000 devices,
-- pored through over 20,000 hours of video footage, and
-- searched through an estimated 15 terabytes of data...
-- received over 300,000 tips from ordinary citizens, who have been our indispensable partners in this effort.”

Garland actions above contributed to Special Counsel investigations.
In other words, Garland handed off all the documents case evidence to Jack Smith.

Jan 2022
— 15 boxes found in the storage area
— the FBI found more than 11,000 government records at Maralago — of those
— 184 unique documents bearing classification markings, of those:
— 67 docs marked Confidential
— 92 docs marked Secret
— 25 docs marked Top Secret
markings reflected that docs were subject to sensitive compartments and dissemination controls
used to restrict access to material in the interest of national security, including
HCS(Humint Control system),
FISA(Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act),
ORCON (originator controlled),
NORORN (could be NOFORN, no foreign national), AND
SI(Special Intelligence)

May 2022
— The first 100 documents marked as classified totaled over 700 pages [National Archives letter to Trump attorney, May 10, 2022]
May 11 2022: Garland convenes four DOJ Grand juries, one for Jan 6 convened until March 2024 -- 6 months before Jack Smith walked in the door
— Grand Jury subpoenas Trump for documents

June 3 2022
— Trump lawyer hands over 40 boxes from Maralago storage room
— 38 docs marked Classified


June 3 2022:
Garland's DOJ Grand jury subpoenas Trump for remaining docs in Maralago;
lawyers for Trump "certify" that there were no more;
Trump stole 11,000 government docs, 300 classified docs — the Garland DOJ's FBI found more than Trump's lawyers certified as recovered.

July 22 2022: G
arland's Grand jury testimony by Marc Short, Mike Pence’s Chief of Staff, & Short's counsel Greg Jacob

August 8 2022
— FBI warrant search of Maralago
— 103 marked Classified
— 18 marked Top Secret

The law violated: —- 18 U.S.C. 793— Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information.
Penalty: Fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
More on the indictability of these stolen defense-classified documents:
https://www.justsecurity.org/83034/tracker-evidence-of-trumps-knowledge-and-involvement-in-retaining-mar-a-lago-documents/

Sept 2 2022:
Garland's Grand jury subpoenaed testimony by Pat Cipollone,
a) one of the participants in WH meeting Dec 18 2020, that included Giuliani, Powell, Flynn, Patrick Byrne of Overstock,
b) Cipollone sat in on Jan 3 2021 DOJ official meeting with Trump, and
c) Cipollone was in direct contact with trump on Jan 6 during capitol insurrection, and did nothing when Meadows told him Trump didn’t want to interfere with rioters calling for hanging Mike Pence)
AND with Patrick Philbin

Sept 15 2022:
Garland's Grand Jury subpoenas Mark Meadows for testimony and documents
the month of Sept 2022: Garland's DOJ issued over 40 subpoenas to people close to Trump, some of whom are
— Bill Stepien, DT’s campaign mgr; part of team to prevent certification
— Sean Dollman, DT’s campaign CFO
— Ben Williamson, Deputy of Mark Meadows,
— Boris Epshteyn, Trump's lawyer -- phone demanded; part of team to prevent certification
— Mike Lindell -- phone seized
— William Russell, WH special asst to Trump, THEN special aide to Trump in Mar-a-lago

Oct 6 2022: Garland's Grand jury calls back Greg Jacob
Oct 13 2022: Garland's Grand Jury calls back Marc Short, Pence's chief of staff

Nov 4 2022:
classified docs found in Biden’s
-- Wilmington home (garage, library), (no docs in Rehoboth beach home) and
-- Penn Biden Center in DC (Richard Sauber is spec counsel to Pres Biden)
Nov 14 2022: Garland asks John Lausch (Trump appointed US Atty, Chicago) to review found Biden documents

3. Nov 18 2022 Garland appoints Jack Smith (3 days after Trump announces his candidacy for 2024), who inherits the records of the Garland DOJ's work.

Jack Smith took charge of over 20 Garland prosecutors and integrated his work into what was described as a 'fast moving investigation' which had already gathered more evidence than Special Counsel Mueller ever had.


By that very day, Nov 18 2022, Garland's DOJ had convicted more than 323 Jan 6 insurrectionists.

All of the above documents case evidence AND DC grand jury evidence gathered -- all that is what AG Merrick Garland and his DOJ did before his appointment of Special Counsel Jack Smith.

Garland himself could not possibly know how long it would take SC Jack Smith's team to file indictments.

But the first documents case indictment was filed June 8 2023, based mostly on work previously done by Garland's Criminal Division/FBI investigators and Garland's grand juries.

ANY delays by the courts -- entertaining defense motions, hearings, more motions -- are not the fault of AG Garland or his Special Counsel, Jack Smth.

For DU'ers triggered by the mention of Garland,
-- this timeline of his work will forever remain the facts of Garland's Jan 6 investigations and evidence collections during his first 20 months in office...
-- this timeline, posted at least 10 times over the last year, also establishes DU's Garland haters' willful ignorance and therefore stupidity, of the fact of AG Garland's work, and AG Garland's wisdom in choosing Jack Smith from the Hague as Special Counsel to carry on his work.

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There's milquetoast and then there's MILQUETOAST..... Blue Owl Jul 2025 #1
And then there's federalist society stoogetoast. Think. Again. Jul 2025 #16
Yeah. Apparently the Biden administration was LuvLoogie Jul 2025 #23
Yes. Worst than Barr, and that's saying a lot. Burnt toast maybe who couldn't be scraped. brush Jul 2025 #29
Biden's biggest regret. Mr.WeRP Jul 2025 #2
Bondi Rebl2 Jul 2025 #7
She's bad, all right. trump bribed her for just 25k. brush Jul 2025 #32
Biden could have fired him at any time MichMan Jul 2025 #24
Exactly. And Biden could have appointed Postal Governors Bluetus Jul 2025 #102
I wonder why president biden didnt fire garland. If he would have, the world would be totally different now Trueblue1968 Jul 2025 #135
People are comfy on their perches Hornedfrog2000 Jul 2025 #148
President Biden didn't have to do anything... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #28
Has Biden expressed regrets about Garland? JoseBalow Jul 2025 #51
Yep, he has. Sogo Jul 2025 #60
"may have been a misstep." JoseBalow Jul 2025 #67
"Reportedly" MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2025 #81
Yes, he has for multiple reasons EdmondDantes_ Jul 2025 #65
Garland Is America's Worst Attorney General. ... His failure to hold Trump accountable doomed us. walkingman Jul 2025 #3
Hell yes ILikePie92 Jul 2025 #11
Pick your preferred AG Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #21
anyone but him Skittles Jul 2025 #30
Your lack of understanding of the facts aside... Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #39
THEY SHOULD HAVE TRIED Skittles Jul 2025 #86
Appoint a Special Counsel ti investigate J6 in month 1. speak easy Jul 2025 #152
You misunderstand the role and authority of a special counsel Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #153
The point is Jack Smith was appointed too late. speak easy Jul 2025 #155
The point is you don't understand the rationale for appointing a special counsel Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #159
That is the legal redux. speak easy Jul 2025 #160
Nope Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #162
" already had "centralized planning and execution".. speak easy Jul 2025 #164
One anonymous source... Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #167
Why you are holding a Candle for Garland's DOJ is beyond me. Why? speak easy Jul 2025 #169
Why you are giving the Roberts court, who had all the power and is the true villain of this story, a pass, is beyond me Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #170
Alternative history is bunk. You know that. speak easy Jul 2025 #171
Indeed it is the bunk Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #172
I think not waiting A YEAR before beginning any type of process is a good example of what another AG could've done Alpeduez21 Jul 2025 #50
You're in luck! Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #69
Regardless Merrick Garland failed. nt PufPuf23 Jul 2025 #124
Did Garland actually fail? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #127
Maybe I missed the part where Garland was in charge of that Alpeduez21 Jul 2025 #166
Go back and check your calendar Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #168
Bobby Kennedy (Sr) MLWR Jul 2025 #62
Not even Bobby could have circumvented the obstruction of the Roberts Court. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #70
Probably (Sigh, even after 57 yrs) electric_blue68 Jul 2025 #117
Since the January 6th insurrection happened in 2021, the DOJ would/should have begun walkingman Jul 2025 #76
they should have et tu Jul 2025 #89
You mean 2021, but YES! All YES! BaronChocula Jul 2025 #93
I thought it was January 2021? MichMan Jul 2025 #99
Like I said, "faster" is not the correct answer Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #126
The bottom line is people with power/wealth are not held accountable for their actions....very often. walkingman Jul 2025 #128
Well, that is indeed true Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #129
Strike while the iron is hot. The longer Garland waited the less public pressure to do his job LiberalLovinLug Jul 2025 #149
Just because you can imagine something and type it on the internet Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #150
Agree to disagree. LiberalLovinLug Jul 2025 #175
Cherry picking facts doesn't change the reality of the story Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #176
All of that and markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #98
Fuck MAGA's feelings. I don't give a squirt of cat piss how the fuck they would have reacted. Fuck 'em. SoFlaBro Jul 2025 #132
If the magas begin to markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #134
"OH NOES LET'S NOT DO ANYTHING THEN" durablend Jul 2025 #143
He took office in March od 2021 edhopper Jul 2025 #154
You misunderstand the role and authority of the special counsel. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #158
Don't agree edhopper Jul 2025 #161
Did Garland actually fail? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #163
John Mitchell is up at the top of the list too Wicked Blue Jul 2025 #88
I agree with your points. mjvpi Jul 2025 #106
If the documents are released... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #4
They're hiding something mzmolly Jul 2025 #10
You may well be right... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #13
Good point. They'll try to cover it up and mzmolly Jul 2025 #34
Nope. Garland was an idiot or he was in on lettng trump skate. brush Jul 2025 #38
I guess that's where we may differ SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #40
Naivete. Tsk, tsk. Meek Garland could've stopped trump early on by taking charge of... brush Jul 2025 #52
Fitzmas. Yeah. Can't even see an un-redacted Mueller report. Transparency and Evolve Dammit Jul 2025 #41
So the fact that the files were placed under seal by a judge until 2024 makes no difference then? Bev54 Jul 2025 #54
I'm convinced it's the latter n/t hoffyburger Jul 2025 #61
Granted, however it is abundantly clear misanthrope Jul 2025 #95
Very, very, very irresponsible idiot! jrthin Jul 2025 #5
Huge money transfers and failure of the banks to moniss Jul 2025 #6
Remember Garland was nominated to Supreme Court delisen Jul 2025 #8
Yes! ILikePie92 Jul 2025 #12
In the spirit of the damn "bipartisanship" that never goes two ways... Justice matters. Jul 2025 #56
There are two parts at play: yes, Merrick Garland was too meek for the job, but also... W_HAMILTON Jul 2025 #9
What kind? ILikePie92 Jul 2025 #14
Post removed Post removed Jul 2025 #15
Sitting on what? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #17
Sitting on records of 4700 wire transfers worth $1.1 B through Epstein russian accounts for sex trafficking, for one nt lostnfound Jul 2025 #73
Weakness of a top official in a position of great consequence to the nation should both be criminal and treasonous DSandra Jul 2025 #18
Fedralist type Kali999 Jul 2025 #63
Garland's a moderate Democrat and is not associated with the Federalist Society. DU is fact-based and emulatorloo Jul 2025 #105
https://fedsoc.org/contributors/merrick-garland asm128 Jul 2025 #177
You're wrong. Reading is fundamental ASM: emulatorloo Jul 2025 #178
Protecting pedophile billionaires Blue Full Moon Jul 2025 #19
Sitting on that wasn't even the worst thing he did. Waiting 2 years to bring charges against Trump for trying to Fil1957 Jul 2025 #20
how do you know what Garland had access to? bigtree Jul 2025 #22
You know that never matters MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2025 #36
I'm wondering why this should matter as much to Democrats bigtree Jul 2025 #53
Totally agree. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2025 #59
Because it was an opportunity to put Trump away iemanja Jul 2025 #68
no there wasn't bigtree Jul 2025 #72
if you have evidence, it's incumbent on you to provide it iemanja Jul 2025 #100
I've written extensively on this, providing receipts. bigtree Jul 2025 #112
So you have no evidence on the point at hand iemanja Jul 2025 #119
That is a disgusting accusation MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2025 #113
Sorry! I meant Garland. Will edit. iemanja Jul 2025 #115
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Jul 2025 #116
It was a typo, and I profusely apologize iemanja Jul 2025 #120
okay bigtree Jul 2025 #121
Noting that you defend Garland is not a personal attack iemanja Jul 2025 #122
the AG who prosecuted Trump? bigtree Jul 2025 #123
Your "facts" are not facts iemanja Jul 2025 #130
I'm no fan of Merrick Garland but this is one thing I am not going to blame him for. tulipsandroses Jul 2025 #136
that makes sense bigtree Jul 2025 #141
Oh I agree it is suspicious. I am just suggesting that unless there is direct evidence of a crime, Garland had no reason tulipsandroses Jul 2025 #144
right bigtree Jul 2025 #146
Yes. While I want democrats to be more aggressive, there are certain lines we just should not cross. tulipsandroses Jul 2025 #147
Because he was Attorney General iemanja Jul 2025 #64
Well, markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #25
Harvard Skittles Jul 2025 #87
I was going to make a snide comment about markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #91
I think it was Yale that Dubya went to. . . Stargleamer Jul 2025 #165
Good question, I kept asking myself. Speculating on a few theories that I dissmissed in short order, msfiddlestix Jul 2025 #114
Threatening a public official, or their family, markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #133
One word UpInArms Jul 2025 #26
Two words: Silly nonsense. tritsofme Jul 2025 #35
Whatever UpInArms Jul 2025 #82
Uh...how is any of that related to your false smear of him as a Republican? tritsofme Jul 2025 #83
Garland's a moderate Democrat. DU's a fact based site. We ought to keep it that way. emulatorloo Jul 2025 #107
Turncoat Nasruddin Jul 2025 #27
All Presidents since Nixon until this one respected the independence of the DOJ. There's your answer. Cheezoholic Jul 2025 #31
I remember people trying to cover for him. I was too, at first. flying_wahini Jul 2025 #33
Post removed Post removed Jul 2025 #37
I'm just guessing......... damifino10 Jul 2025 #42
Both Biden and Garland were "institutionalists." Neither were equipped to rise to the moment they were faced with... Ol Janx Spirit Jul 2025 #43
The lesson for the future LPBBEAR Jul 2025 #44
He's good friends with Trump's lawyers. AStern Jul 2025 #45
source for that? LymphocyteLover Jul 2025 #71
My bad. His lifelong best friend and mentor is Jared Kushner's lawyer. Not Trump. But still AStern Jul 2025 #74
could the reason you didn't mention her name be because she was Clinton's Deputy Ag bigtree Jul 2025 #78
Still. Kushner. Trump. It's all in the family. Autumn Jul 2025 #96
Then you should maybe delete that post, because it is totally false. emulatorloo Jul 2025 #110
But it's not false. AStern Jul 2025 #137
Yes what you wrote in #45 is false. You wrote "He's good friends with Trump's lawyers." emulatorloo Jul 2025 #140
You should be more upset that he didn't hold MAGA accountable rather than with DUers negative reactions AStern Jul 2025 #156
It's amazing to see people still defending him. BannonsLiver Jul 2025 #46
The most important thing is to avoid the appearance of a political agenda Orrex Jul 2025 #48
Yes. And nobody has done that better than Garland. He's all-world at that one thing. In a class of his own. BannonsLiver Jul 2025 #49
True.... Escape Jul 2025 #66
I think some of it is out of loyalty to Biden. BannonsLiver Jul 2025 #75
Oh heavens! Merrick Garland! Oopsie Daisy Jul 2025 #47
Why didn't Biden replace him The Wizard Jul 2025 #55
well, he didn't have one bit of authority to replace DeJoy bigtree Jul 2025 #80
Garland enabled this shit. BradBo Jul 2025 #57
Um Roberts Supreme Court enabled this shit more than anyone else. They made Trump a King. emulatorloo Jul 2025 #108
Garland is complicit. nt LexVegas Jul 2025 #58
I saw him as the wrong man for the job Warpy Jul 2025 #77
Post removed Post removed Jul 2025 #79
Merrick the Meek republianmushroom Jul 2025 #84
Some say he was a pitbull in the court room Montauk6 Jul 2025 #85
What kind of irresponible IDIOTS were those who refused to vote for VP Harris by either voting third party, lostincalifornia Jul 2025 #90
i feel it is more et tu Jul 2025 #92
I ask myself this daily. orangecrush Jul 2025 #94
Maybe there was a reason Polybius Jul 2025 #97
Democrats have a sad tendency to appoint republicans. Buzz cook Jul 2025 #101
Except Garland's not a Republican. We should keep DU fact-based. Even if it feels good to make stuff up. emulatorloo Jul 2025 #104
Has he ever ran for political office? AI says he is Emile Jul 2025 #109
No he's always been in the law Buzz cook Jul 2025 #174
Conservative then. Buzz cook Jul 2025 #173
Biden regrets picking Garland. BannonsLiver Jul 2025 #145
Bullshit. He was following the President and precedent. Kid Berwyn Jul 2025 #103
it's infuriating! I thought he was just sitting on the coup. Didn't realize he was sitting ecstatic Jul 2025 #111
A Complicit One WiVoter Jul 2025 #118
He's just a HUGE Faux pas Jul 2025 #125
I'm starting to wonder what Rupert Murdoch has on Merrick Garland. Initech Jul 2025 #131
For a year I've told DU detractors this, and I'll say it here again: AG Merrick Garland was not waiting. ancianita Jul 2025 #138
You don't call waiting a year and a half edhopper Jul 2025 #157
Mueller was not "permitted" to indict a sitting president. Cetacea Jul 2025 #139
Patience, grasshoppers. This isn't a Law & Order episode. Garland is working very hard behind the Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #142
Didn't Mueller popsdenver Jul 2025 #151
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