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In reply to the discussion: Centrist Dems Have Already Forgotten About Kamala Harris: Pivoting to the right didn't work in 2024. It won't work now. [View all]
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(53,347 posts)4. That actually isn't true, at least not entirely
while he did help Clinton in some places, he hurt Clinton in others. Clinton was lucky in that, Perot only hurt him in states he won anyway (NJ, NY, and CA to name three). One way to see that is that in 1996, when Perot did considerably worse, Clinton had both a higher percent of the vote and a larger margin.
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Centrist Dems Have Already Forgotten About Kamala Harris: Pivoting to the right didn't work in 2024. It won't work now. [View all]
Celerity
Oct 2025
OP
Will John Fetterman turn Republican before the Centrist Dems can nominate him?
Ping Tung
Oct 2025
#1
The policies of the left *are* popular, supported by a majority of Americans
Fiendish Thingy
Oct 2025
#7
Oh, so it falls back to the dastardly DNC rigging everything, just so we can ... lose.
W_HAMILTON
Oct 2025
#12
You are the one that blamed their losses on labels -- liberals, Democrats, etc.
W_HAMILTON
Oct 2025
#22
There aren't many "rogue saboteurs" and it's something that's been addressed.
W_HAMILTON
Oct 2025
#39
Look at other posts in this thread for details on how Golden helped sabotage the BBB. Nt
Fiendish Thingy
Oct 2025
#40
Biden's 2 big infrastructure bills were shredded by a handful of centrists and conservadems (Problem Solvers in the House
Celerity
Oct 2025
#8
Thank you for providing evidence that the Biden administration was quite progressive.
W_HAMILTON
Oct 2025
#16
Centrist establishment neoliberal shifted Right stands for nothing BILL CLINTON DESTROYED AMERICA
betsuni
Oct 2025
#24
As far as losing messages go, it right up there with the idiotic "Defund the Police" message/slogan.
QueerDuck
Oct 2025
#38
Your screeds are also straw men. Based on reality, those that said Gore was the same as republicans
Nixie
Oct 2025
#49
This entire thread is the reason why Democrats lose. You all concentrate on policy too much.
Wanderlust988
Oct 2025
#33