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pat_k

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44. Psychopaths do feel shame -- but not "normal" shame
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 04:42 PM
Oct 2025

Google AI provided a halfway decent explanation.

Psychopaths experience a deep shame, but it stems from their own perceived weaknesses, not from harming others. Unlike typical shame, which arises from violating social norms, their shame is triggered when they are exposed as vulnerable, weak, or helpless, or when they fail to achieve a goal. Research suggests this shame is linked to their psychopathic traits, especially when their facade of power and control is threatened.

What causes this shame?

Exposure of weakness: Psychopaths feel shame when their carefully constructed image of power and control is shattered, revealing vulnerability, desperation, or helplessness.

Failure: They experience shame and anger when they fail to achieve a goal, especially if it makes them look weak or incompetent.

Lack of accountability: Their shame is not for the harm they cause, but for being caught or failing, which they may then project onto others by blaming them.

How this differs from typical shame

Typical shame: In most people, shame is a reaction to violating moral or social standards, leading to remorse for hurting others.

Psychopathic shame: A psychopath's shame is a self-focused emotion related to their own perceived failures and vulnerabilities, not empathy for their victims.

Other emotional responses

Lack of guilt for harming others: Psychopaths do not feel guilt or shame for hurting others; instead, they may rationalize their actions.

Fear and anger: They fear being exposed by people who are mentally stronger than they are or who they cannot control, which can lead to anger.

Emotional suffering: Despite their often-unempathetic nature, psychopaths can experience emotional pain from things like separation, divorce, or dissatisfaction with their own actions.

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Trump does not get humiliated. [View all] speak easy Oct 2025 OP
He's got "buttons." Everyone does. paleotn Oct 2025 #1
"Laughing at him and treating him like he's a second rate" speak easy Oct 2025 #2
Could rage be covering for humiliation? electric_blue68 Oct 2025 #28
He is clearly not immune to humiliation. returnee Oct 2025 #36
Yip, am clickbaited to no end, from otherwise solid podcasters, about how "disastrous," UTUSN Oct 2025 #3
All the hyperbole is just too annoying so my revenge is no clicking on it ms liberty Oct 2025 #4
But...but ALL CAPS! ALL CAPS!!! N/ T. Tom Dyer Oct 2025 #7
He is incapable of shame or accepting blame. surfered Oct 2025 #5
Hard core 3auld6phart Oct 2025 #22
The click bait is out of control Cirsium Oct 2025 #6
Makes you wonder if there is a kickback. Many have no summary or just list guests. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #11
Yes Cirsium Oct 2025 #15
Trump does not GET humiliation,he GIVES humiliation. BattleRow Oct 2025 #8
Well shit - calimary Oct 2025 #9
... ancianita Oct 2025 #10
Well, I guess it's because he IS humiliated, by his little ol' self, calimary Oct 2025 #13
Wishful thinking Cirsium Oct 2025 #16
I see. Yes, we see his public humiliation, but that doesn't mean HE feels it. One can be humiliated without ancianita Oct 2025 #18
I agree with your assessment...and more... Escape Oct 2025 #12
Quoted from the 1993 movie "Tombstone" AverageOldGuy Oct 2025 #14
The act of publicly humiliating someone... Joinfortmill Oct 2025 #17
Thank you for saying it, click bait headlines have become absolutely ridiculous Bev54 Oct 2025 #19
Psychopathy and Dementia bmichaelh Oct 2025 #20
Couldn't it be both ? Is embarrassed different from humiliation ? JI7 Oct 2025 #21
One also has to has a conscience to be humiliated kimbutgar Oct 2025 #23
Oh, he feels humiliated GenThePerservering Oct 2025 #24
He felt humiliated at the White House correspondence dinner where Obama roasted him. iemanja Oct 2025 #25
Agreed. True Dough Oct 2025 #26
I don't think he was humiliated. llmart Oct 2025 #30
Made a joke? True Dough Oct 2025 #33
I can think of one time Maru Kitteh Oct 2025 #27
Obama frosted him. He wasn't humiliated. pandr32 Oct 2025 #40
It is literally impossible to shame him. The Mouth Oct 2025 #29
My (faint) hope is that seeing him humiliated GopherGal Oct 2025 #31
Krasnov believes he is never wrong & therefore he AnotherMother4Peace Oct 2025 #32
If tRump was a normal human being capable of feeling shame or embarrassment -- Grammy23 Oct 2025 #34
Yeah. speak easy Oct 2025 #35
Idiots don't understand humiliation. demosincebirth Oct 2025 #37
You have to have normal human feelings to be humiliated. He has none. appleannie1 Oct 2025 #38
You hit this one out of the park. pandr32 Oct 2025 #39
Yes and nothing will happen to him until it does. themaguffin Oct 2025 #41
A tantrum is a tantrum, regardless of its source. Torchlight Oct 2025 #42
A trait he shares with almost all of his Cabinet of Curiosities, and the Dunning-Kruger Caucus in the House. nt eppur_se_muova Oct 2025 #43
Psychopaths do feel shame -- but not "normal" shame pat_k Oct 2025 #44
Do not rely on AI slop speak easy Oct 2025 #45
I evaluated against my knowledge, which is admittedly from the 1990's pat_k Oct 2025 #46
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