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Celerity

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75. Democratic Reawakening: With Al Franken's resignation, Democrats are holding their politics accountable to their values
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 12:28 AM
Oct 2025
By John Stoehr

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/thomas-jefferson-street/articles/2017-12-12/sexual-misconduct-reckoning-is-opportunity-for-democrats-to-reinvigorate

Dec. 12, 2017


Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., leaves the Capitol after speaking on the Senate floor, Thursday, Dec. 7, 2017, on Capitol Hill in Washington. Franken said he will resign from the Senate in coming weeks following a wave of sexual misconduct allegations and a collapse of support from his Democratic colleagues, a swift political fall for a once-rising Democratic star. (AP Photo/Andrew Harnik)


I lost count of the number of people last week who said, with the air of arch authority, that the Democrats were playing a sucker's game in pressing U.S. Sen. Al Franken to resign. "This is why Democrats lose," some left-liberals said while anti-Trump independents said, "This is why I am not a Democrat." The complaint is that the GOP would never eject one of its own over sexual misconduct, so why should the Democrats? Typical, critics said. The Democrats choose purity over politics.

Some people can't see that Franken's resignation stems from values as well as politics. The Democrats are signaling to every women who ever faced sexual discrimination (which is a lot) that the party is their home, and they are creating conditions in which President Trump's past lechery has the potential to be as threatening to him as past entanglements with Russia. U.S. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, the leading Democrat in the Franken purge, said Monday he should resign.

Will Gillibrand's call amount to anything? I have no idea. Given what Trump and the Republicans are willing to do to secure Judge Roy Moore's victory in Tuesday's Senate election in Alabama, I doubt it. But achieving concrete results is only part of the reason for political parties. They exist to provide, as clearly as possible, an expression of the principles they believe serve a majority of Americans in their particular time and place. In this post-Harvey Weinstein moment of reckoning, the Democrats are building a platform from which to say: Freedom is your destiny in the 21st century, and our brand of liberalism is the means of achieving that fate.

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I suspect the women driving this moment of reckoning with no end in sight have heard Edsall's reasoning a few times. I suspect they know a thing or two about not speaking up about the man in charge for fear of retaliation. If these women took Edsall's flawed reasoning to heart, we would not be witnessing this renewed liberal moment. Thank God, they didn't.

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Thank you Keepthesoulalive Oct 2025 #1
I think he's done. mr715 Oct 2025 #2
Oh? Has Trump pardoned him for something? Orrex Oct 2025 #38
Nazi tattoo is the new get out of jail free card nt mr715 Oct 2025 #39
Yeah, stick a fork in this guy.... democratsruletheday Oct 2025 #114
why is this guy a Dem? Skittles Oct 2025 #3
I've been wondering that. yardwork Oct 2025 #5
I've been wondering that. yardwork Oct 2025 #6
Is he? Really? herding cats Oct 2025 #10
Good question. sheshe2 Oct 2025 #16
It's not unusual for Repug donors to back a spoiler candidate as a Dem, Green or Independent. hedda_foil Oct 2025 #60
Why did Bernie Sanders endorse him? And campaign with him? thought crime Oct 2025 #101
Fake Rebl2 Oct 2025 #122
Damn it....... a kennedy Oct 2025 #4
I'm glad he's been weeded out, or hope he has. babylonsister Oct 2025 #7
Billed as an "oyster farmer' ... sheshe2 Oct 2025 #11
I found this editorial on him earlier Quiet Em Oct 2025 #8
Woah. sheshe2 Oct 2025 #12
Some of those defending this candidate might as well be saying "well, boys will be boys". Behind the Aegis Oct 2025 #17
Maybe not in so many words, but that is what is being said. sheshe2 Oct 2025 #22
But he was drunk. herding cats Oct 2025 #29
You are absolutely correct. sheshe2 Oct 2025 #30
Yeah, right? herding cats Oct 2025 #32
He was ahead in polls apparently. Heck, the Dem governor is running. What's wrong with her? Silent Type Oct 2025 #9
Her age is the only thing mainer Oct 2025 #21
Thanks. Sounds like my kind of candidate. And she's won before. Silent Type Oct 2025 #40
Eve herself could have been her midwife dsc Oct 2025 #97
What's wrong with her??? sheshe2 Oct 2025 #34
Absolutely nothing, at this moment in our country's history. ReRe Oct 2025 #74
She just joined the race last week mcar Oct 2025 #90
a well known politician from Vermont is ok with all this so who are we to nitpick lol nt msongs Oct 2025 #13
IKR?! sheshe2 Oct 2025 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Oct 2025 #15
I think Planter said something about not taking corporate money iemanja Oct 2025 #18
Bernie is not very good at picking people Keepthesoulalive Oct 2025 #42
Gabbard. He was one of Fetterman's earliest supporters. W_HAMILTON Oct 2025 #72
Bronson Platner, Graham's father, was a major donor to Democrats, including ... Bernie Sanders, Abolishinist Oct 2025 #78
Aha... nt Blasphemer Oct 2025 #109
So WHY are those pushing Planter Cha Oct 2025 #19
It plays better than rich kid who was educated in prestigious schools. sheshe2 Oct 2025 #24
Too Bad.. I'm So Sick of the Gaslighting! Better to Cha Oct 2025 #27
Now that is interesting, signed NDAs. 🤔 sheshe2 Oct 2025 #35
It's Telling.. It's Here in RandySF's OP... Cha Oct 2025 #54
Ah... sheshe2 Oct 2025 #56
Right? Everybody needs Cha Oct 2025 #63
Hillary used nda's too, it's common questionseverything Oct 2025 #91
lol... This guy needs them with all the Cha Oct 2025 #92
The sources that have been posted are pretty much right wing scammers questionseverything Oct 2025 #93
I suspect that whoever it was has done it before for others... QueerDuck Oct 2025 #96
Exactly, she-she peggysue2 Oct 2025 #116
I thought he was the real deal. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2025 #20
That's right, you are from Maine! sheshe2 Oct 2025 #28
Well. thank you sheshe2 OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2025 #33
It's been decades since I have been up there. sheshe2 Oct 2025 #36
Butting in briefly... MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2025 #119
Where did you go? OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2025 #121
Platner is a plant. Kingofalldems Oct 2025 #23
Good one! sheshe2 Oct 2025 #25
If we criticize Hegseth's tattoos and Young Republicans's slurs RandySF Oct 2025 #26
This. sheshe2 Oct 2025 #37
But do you criticize those, or only the Dem violations? Prairie Gates Oct 2025 #45
That is a stupid question. RandySF Oct 2025 #51
Maybe Prairie Gates Oct 2025 #55
Take a minute or two to look at HIS bio! nt cliffside Oct 2025 #50
What does that have to do with anti-gay slurs? RandySF Oct 2025 #52
One needs to know the source - His first book, Domestic Enemies: The Founding Fathers' Fight Against the Left cliffside Oct 2025 #59
Is Politico and The Advocate okay with you? sheshe2 Oct 2025 #98
Get back to me when Hegseth changes his tattoos and stops actually acting like a Fascist. thought crime Oct 2025 #102
Dan Greenfield, author of your OP's article, is a RW MAGAt racist, homophobic, Islamophobic, Democratic Party-hating POS Celerity Oct 2025 #31
Well he sounds nice n/t leftstreet Oct 2025 #41
Did you forget the sarcasm tag? :) nt cliffside Oct 2025 #48
Shill-man fellow sounds about right (wing). TommyT139 Oct 2025 #43
Just looked at the website myself, this is BS that many do not care to spend a minute or two to look at the source ... cliffside Oct 2025 #49
Can probably file it under "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" nt Rob H. Oct 2025 #118
Fetterman-esque Prairie Gates Oct 2025 #44
Glad they outed him. I'm from South and have spent my life explaining to racists/bigots Silent Type Oct 2025 #46
About Daniel Greenfield from the link - I have appeared on the shows of Tucker Carlson, Mark Levin, Glenn Beck and ... cliffside Oct 2025 #47
Okay, so is lying or has he done the dig up real dirt on democrats Keepthesoulalive Oct 2025 #53
Seriously, a little more - His first book, Domestic Enemies: The Founding Fathers' Fight Against the Left ... cliffside Oct 2025 #58
And? sheshe2 Oct 2025 #61
Please. His article about Platman is dripping with biased phrasing and word choices. LearnedHand Oct 2025 #82
His name is Platner not Platman. sheshe2 Oct 2025 #111
Sorry that was a typo LearnedHand Oct 2025 #113
Read The Advocate, he is quoted there. sheshe2 Oct 2025 #115
I prefer to look at the totality of what one says and does instead of one writing, Sanders backed him initially ... cliffside Oct 2025 #86
You lose credibility by posting items from right wing sources at DU. PufPuf23 Oct 2025 #57
Exactly! And thank you, it only takes a minute or two to look at Daniel Greenfield's bio and their agenda. nt cliffside Oct 2025 #62
What part isn't true? sheshe2 Oct 2025 #66
Let's play 'What part isn't true?' games w/ some of your OP author's (Dem-hating MAGAt Daniel Greenfield) other articles Celerity Oct 2025 #83
You are admonishing me? sheshe2 Oct 2025 #65
You haven't "lost any credibility".. That's Ridiculous.. Cha Oct 2025 #67
Oh, I know. sheshe2 Oct 2025 #68
I Thought David Horowitz Was a Joke--but He Foreshadowed the Trump Coalition Celerity Oct 2025 #69
Kick dalton99a Oct 2025 #64
The Editorial Board's John Stoehr is the real deal. summer_in_TX Oct 2025 #70
Mahalo, summer_in_TX.. I read that... Cha Oct 2025 #71
Yep. summer_in_TX Oct 2025 #76
I believe it with all the other revelations Cha Oct 2025 #79
Yes, no sign of remorse or any awareness of how hurtful his slurs were to vulnerable people. summer_in_TX Oct 2025 #80
Excellent point about "no sign of remorse or Cha Oct 2025 #87
Democratic Reawakening: With Al Franken's resignation, Democrats are holding their politics accountable to their values Celerity Oct 2025 #75
Interesting. summer_in_TX Oct 2025 #77
Al Franken was railroaded. markodochartaigh Oct 2025 #103
I think so too. summer_in_TX Oct 2025 #104
United States Senate election in Maine, 2026 - There are other candidates which we need to focus on ... cliffside Oct 2025 #73
How Trump Can Bust The Dem Money Machine Funding Antifa & Mamdani Will Unleash Violence Against Women cliffside Oct 2025 #81
I love the OP but check the provenance of that editorial. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2025 #84
I have no opinion about Graham Platner - I don't live iin Maine, so, not my circus, not my monkey - Ocelot II Oct 2025 #85
I thought this Platner guy seemed a bit shrill LuvLoogie Oct 2025 #88
Typical for such candidates, there's a working class, no political experience purity requirement. betsuni Oct 2025 #89
Fetterman 2.0 vibe Hassler Oct 2025 #94
Exactly. sheshe2 Oct 2025 #95
He's either lying about being too stupid to know he got a nazi tattoo... Iggo Oct 2025 #99
Lol 🤣 sheshe2 Oct 2025 #100
Great article LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2025 #105
Great article LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2025 #106
Sounds like we're getting punked. Nixie Oct 2025 #107
It sure does, Nixie. sheshe2 Oct 2025 #112
Ironically, this intended hit piece from a right-winger's site says a lot of good things about Platner. thought crime Oct 2025 #108
Hit piece? sheshe2 Oct 2025 #110
But the article You linked to "accuses" him of being a Progressive activist. thought crime Oct 2025 #117
Saying you're "progressive" Doesn't excuse Planter's Slurs.. Cha Oct 2025 #120
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