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haele

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14. The Pentagon , the CIA, and probably a few other agencies have planned for this.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:31 AM
Oct 25

My thinking is that for the rest of us, it's going to depend on the individual states and whether or not they can create regional compacts.

Red states and rural areas will probably run into failing compounds and mov-run outposts.

Those billionaires are going to find that it's really f'ing expensive to set up and sustain the infrastructure and a governing system to support a comfortable sense of participating in a world wide civilization from scratch.
If they all want to live in a Mad Max collection of small plantation style communities that feed on each other with the occasional Barter Town to provide the infrastructure, they can go for it, but whatever they think they're going to accomplish without a surrounding infrastructure just isn't going succeed. Their Robots and AI just can't compete with human beings, especially hungry masses of angry human beings that may currently be pacified, but aren't used to being obedient serfs.
We will face a collapse, just as Russia has. It just depends on whether or not the reductionist ideologues get smart sooner than later.

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This is something that needs to be contemplated. Are we sure we know what we are doing? everyonematters Oct 25 #1
The Pentagon , the CIA, and probably a few other agencies have planned for this. haele Oct 25 #14
I've been having fleeting thoughts that it WON'T reopen. LuckyCharms Oct 25 #2
It would be a back-handed way of dissolving the two of the three branches of government. no_hypocrisy Oct 25 #3
That's the whole idea. Turbineguy Oct 25 #4
Once our country is destroyed, maybe Canada will Emile Oct 25 #5
This "donor" who paid our military. Who is it? What are they expecting return? Walleye Oct 25 #6
SpaceX CEO wanting more government money? Emile Oct 25 #8
Putin orangecrush Oct 25 #15
I agree he's behind all these dirty things That Trump is doing Walleye Oct 25 #16
The Saudis? n/t iluvtennis Oct 25 #18
The donor ponied up 130 million, about $99 for every active duty service person Dave says Oct 25 #22
We are renewing our passports AverageOldGuy Oct 25 #7
Trump would be king Diraven Oct 25 #9
if the gop had a spine, a bunch would turn indy during the shut down and hand samnsara Oct 25 #10
Per the Declaration of Independence, WE the People then have the right.... lastlib Oct 25 #11
Hartman got the comparison of the ballroom to The Winter Palace from DU Botany Oct 25 #12
Thom Hartmann is a DU member. usonian Oct 25 #20
Or Abstractartist Oct 25 #13
The federal government collapses, his power evaporates, and the states take over. tinrobot Oct 25 #17
Why pay taxes then? Luvcatz14 Oct 25 #19
Exactly! Rebl2 Oct 25 #21
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