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Lawrence Tribe on how fucked Kegsbreath is... [View all]

Department of Defense Law of War Manual, Sec. 18.3.2.1 states the "requirement" to refuse illegal orders.

Whatâ€™s its key example? Wait for it . . . Itâ€™s "orders to fire upon the shipwrecked."
— Laurence H. Tribe (@tribelaw.bsky.social) 2025-12-01T13:48:59.972Z

Department of Defense Law of War Manual, Sec. 18.3.2.1 states the "requirement" to refuse illegal orders.

What’s its key example? Wait for it . . . It’s "orders to fire upon the shipwrecked."

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Lawrence Tribe on how fucked Kegsbreath is... [View all] Mr.WeRP Dec 2025 OP

Yeah, he's fucked, alright. Bondi will prosecute him to the full extent of whatever Trump wants. rsdsharp Dec 2025 #1

No one expects that. But his command authority is crippled Mr.WeRP Dec 2025 #2

Plus, supposedly, there is an actual audio recording of Kegsbreath giving the ok to murder MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2025 #5

Do you think canetoad Dec 2025 #20

It's possible MustLoveBeagles Dec 2025 #28

This needs to happen MustLoveBeagles Dec 2025 #27

Seems to me they are blaming it on Admiral Bradley Farmer-Rick Dec 2025 #76

Trump got impeached twice. How did that work out? rsdsharp Dec 2025 #10

It will look to history like markodochartaigh Dec 2025 #40

AS LONG AS ROBERTS AND THE MAGA RULE RVN VET71 Dec 2025 #73

IOW, a slap on the wrist. joshdawg Dec 2025 #9

They'll just come up with an extremely narrow definition of "shipwrecked". nt bbernardini Dec 2025 #3

Yes, like Robinson Crusoe ananda Dec 2025 #23

Uhh.. Firing on shipwrecked people is the textbook definition of a war crime.. Litterally 18.3.1.1 LiberalArkie Dec 2025 #26

Thanks. Nt lostnfound Dec 2025 #53

Totally NOT fucked John Coktosten Dec 2025 #4

Well, consider this scenario Bluetus Dec 2025 #13

I want you to be correct! John Coktosten Dec 2025 #22

Attacking Democrats? MineralMan Dec 2025 #41

Yes, yes John Coktosten Dec 2025 #63

Attacking Democrats is against DU's TOS. nt Wednesdays Dec 2025 #66

Post removed Post removed Dec 2025 #68

That's why we must elect a different kind of Democrat Bluetus Dec 2025 #47

Now that I agree with! John Coktosten Dec 2025 #62

What disgusting comments. MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2025 #60

Right back at ya buddy. John Coktosten Dec 2025 #61

I think many are missing this potential outcome Mr.WeRP Dec 2025 #43

We didn't have to wait long. Several hours ago, the WH acknowledged Bluetus Dec 2025 #49

So it is agreed. Frank Bradley, come on down ... under the bus Bluetus Dec 2025 #67

Yes, it's murder GAtomboy Dec 2025 #55

Who's going to do anything about it? maxsolomon Dec 2025 #6

I suspect liberalgunwilltravel Dec 2025 #11

All the NAZI soldiers, officers and commanders popsdenver Dec 2025 #14

do something like what? quit and go public? maxsolomon Dec 2025 #16

No They Won't RobinA Dec 2025 #18

Why does your comment incluse advertising? For winter hats and razors in particular? FadedMullet Dec 2025 #32

The admiral Boo1 Dec 2025 #56

Admiral Bradley is a helo pilot pfitz59 Dec 2025 #72

I dont think so Boo1 Dec 2025 #74

If I was the Traitor-in-Chief, I would be looking for a new "Secretary of War Crimes." lastlib Dec 2025 #7

https://www.justsecurity.org/125948/illegal-orders-shipwrecked-boat-strike-survivors/ Sailingdiver Dec 2025 #8

Good post, thanks. canetoad Dec 2025 #24

Thanks for this info Bayard Dec 2025 #25

Thanks for this info MustLoveBeagles Dec 2025 #30

They don't want anyone left timms139 Dec 2025 #69

I'll believe he's fucked swong19104 Dec 2025 #12

Defense: "It was a BOAT, not a SHIP!" N/T ColoringFool Dec 2025 #15

TickTock, you rotten drunken beast. Joinfortmill Dec 2025 #17

The admin is hitting peak record territory with Torchlight Dec 2025 #19

and who will defend this? NJCher Dec 2025 #42

In a normal world Bettie Dec 2025 #21

Throw his ass in the drunk tank Blue Owl Dec 2025 #29

"Yeah, he's fucked, alright. Bondi will prosecute him to the full extent of whatever Trump wants." J_William_Ryan Dec 2025 #31

I think you missed the somewhat sarcastic point there. thesquanderer Dec 2025 #64

"Firing on shipwrecked people is the textbook definition of a war crime." J_William_Ryan Dec 2025 #33

Yeah, he was stupid but that's his default setting and has been all along Warpy Dec 2025 #34

The guys that took Figarosmom Dec 2025 #35

If this had to happen at all, I'm glad it happened after that ridiculous convo they called last month FakeNoose Dec 2025 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Kablooie Dec 2025 #37

It's cute that Tribe thinks laws and rules apply to the GOP. 617Blue Dec 2025 #38

nothing Tribe said NJCher Dec 2025 #44

Trump's law firm, formerly known as the DOJ, will do nothing. Lonestarblue Dec 2025 #39

"Hi honey, how was work today?" "Oh, I killed a couple of injured people clinging to a bombed boat." RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Dec 2025 #45

When we are no longer Dan Dec 2025 #46

A Fascist nightmare. nt Justice matters. Dec 2025 #71

Kick dalton99a Dec 2025 #48

That thump I heard COL Mustard Dec 2025 #50

ANGH, sorry. n/t flvegan Dec 2025 #51

Now he will have real motivation to help trump intefere with the elections SamuelTheThird Dec 2025 #52

WWll - Executed for firing on/killing shipwreck survivors Norrrm Dec 2025 #54

arrest him and ship him to venezuela to face murder charges moonshinegnomie Dec 2025 #57

Finnegan's Wake struggle4progress Dec 2025 #58

This is from the department of war manual beyondtimes Dec 2025 #59

Trump has already pardoned all concerned. Marcuse Dec 2025 #65

Shhhhh...don't tell anyone.... COL Mustard Dec 2025 #70

Why does anyone think these laws or regulations matter? BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2025 #75

If Trump pardoned him it wont pardon UCMJ cpamomfromtexas Dec 2025 #77

Ultimately, we need to prosecute everyone who ordered or executed the order. It is clearly in violation of military law 33taw Dec 2025 #78

In Army basic training in 1981, we received training classes to refuse illegal orders Mysterian Dec 2025 #79