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5. the statement concerning the 'hands off stance' is just fundamentally factual

Reply to live love laugh (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2025, 02:52 AM

Dec 18

This was absolutely the baseline administration stance. Really don't understand why Harris would be under criticism for stating what in fact was basic truth.

( are certain posters imagining that Harris should have/could have countermanded that Biden position? )

( I end up being reinforced in the position that the Democrats really dare not nominate a female ... Much as it turns my stomach to have to say so. )

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Kamala being interviewed by Jimmy Kimmel tonight is enlightening but also frustrating [View all] live love laugh Dec 18 OP

Might have been better for Harris to wait awhile, but I can see her being "ungrateful." It was just a bad situation Silent Type Dec 18 #1

Biden's feelings ??? Intractable Dec 18 #2

Well, I knew Biden's one-term promise wouldn't hold misanthrope Dec 18 #4

He never made a one-term promise. W_HAMILTON Dec 18 #15

You're right misanthrope Dec 19 #22

Well, he got his wish. mr715 Dec 19 #24

And, unfortunately, we now got the government we deserve. W_HAMILTON Dec 19 #25

Yes, that's how I remember it PatSeg Dec 19 #27

Why? mr715 Dec 19 #28

Sorry you feel that way PatSeg Dec 19 #31

And I appreciate both your perspective mr715 Dec 19 #33

Thank you PatSeg Dec 19 #36

"Should've" ... Monday morning QBs always win. live love laugh Dec 19 #48

and boy - did we get plenty of "howa' shoulda' been done" in that dose. stopdiggin Dec 20 #52

You're real late with this response. Too late to be a QB for anything. Intractable Dec 20 #56

lol ... being latER and wrong is worse. live love laugh Dec 20 #60

I'm going to put you on my ignore list. Intractable Dec 20 #61

Thanks live love laugh Dec 20 #95

He definitely alluded in the 2020 campaign to being a transitional POTUS. beaglelover Dec 19 #41

Biden never promised to be a one-term president Mysterian Dec 18 #19

It is my inference of the word "transitional." misanthrope Dec 19 #21

It sure is dishonest adjacent. nt mr715 Dec 19 #26

For about the fiftieth time, Biden NEVER 'promised' to be a one-term president! Jack Valentino Dec 19 #50

Thank you. He got in there in the first Solomon Dec 18 #6

He never once said that ITAL Dec 18 #16

And if he were truly honest about serving 2 terms, mr715 Dec 19 #23

I beg to differ misanthrope Dec 19 #34

I meant the primary mr715 Dec 19 #37

good post Skittles Dec 18 #7

Ironically, in 2000, both Biden and Harris were near the bottom for me. Intractable Dec 18 #9

you don't need THE most delicate body part for courage Skittles Dec 18 #10

During the campaign, I thought it was flawless. mr715 Dec 18 #14

He was good until he wasn't. mr715 Dec 18 #13

Biden's goal was to fight fascism? This is more revisionist than factual. live love laugh Dec 20 #53

"Fight for the soul of the nation" mr715 Dec 20 #63

Once again your revisionist disinformation is not provable, live love laugh Dec 20 #78

Revisionist disinformation is rarely provable. mr715 Dec 20 #88

Stop posting lies or adding to them. live love laugh Dec 20 #89

Not posting lies nor adding to them. mr715 Dec 20 #90

Your perspective is lies. live love laugh Dec 20 #91

Don't you think that any good president should have that goal, if faced with the threat of a Trump-like creature? Doodley Dec 20 #77

The OP claims failure because BIDEN didn't stop fascism. Neither did his predecessors. live love laugh Dec 20 #80

Yes - all the way back to Jefferson, Hamilton, and Washington. mr715 Dec 20 #83

Biden was the president who lost to a fascist, a fascist who is destroying the America we knew. Doodley Dec 20 #84

And facilitated his ascent mr715 Dec 20 #86

More revisionistic drivel and lies ... live love laugh Dec 20 #93

To put a finer point on it, mr715 Dec 20 #85

Typically VP candidates are not primary contenders MichMan Dec 18 #11

And by stating in advance, that "he would only select a Black woman as VP," he reduced her to it. Intractable Dec 18 #18

Huh? When did Biden ever say he would ONLY pick a black female VP? live love laugh Dec 20 #54

Are you serious here? Intractable Dec 20 #55

Bullshit link. Take your revisionist disinformation elsewhere. live love laugh Dec 20 #66

Woman VP, Black woman Justice. mr715 Dec 20 #68

He did not PLEDGE to pick a BLACK WOMAN VP. live love laugh Dec 20 #71

He did "vow" to have a woman nt mr715 Dec 20 #72

The lie is BLACK woman. Don't back out now .... live love laugh Dec 20 #74

You are apparently correct / I was wrong mr715 Dec 20 #76

Your original point is still relevant. It was used against Kamala by MAGA, with Trump calling her a "DEI hire." Doodley Dec 20 #79

I'm fairly sure I remember a debate mr715 Dec 20 #87

Another load of drivel... live love laugh Dec 20 #92

It happened when he did it. nt mr715 Dec 20 #65

IOW you've got nothing .... live love laugh Dec 20 #67

You are under no obligation mr715 Dec 20 #70

But you backed the allegation that he did pledge to pick a black female VP. live love laugh Dec 20 #73

I was wrong about the race part. mr715 Dec 20 #75

I was so burned when she did that during a primary debate PatSeg Dec 19 #29

I truly don't understand mr715 Dec 19 #32

When Obama picked Biden as VP, you believe it was a political graveyard appointment? MichMan Dec 19 #38

Yes. mr715 Dec 19 #40

Sometimes two people can have different views of the same thing EdmondDantes_ Dec 19 #42

The instance I'm referring to wasn't quite like that PatSeg Dec 19 #44

And this is why I am no fan of Kamala. madibella Dec 20 #58

Seriously? live love laugh Dec 20 #69

Kamala's "snake like tendencies"...what's that mean? live love laugh Dec 20 #94

He completely screwed us in respect to the 2024 election. Love this line in your post: beaglelover Dec 19 #39

I now sometimes think Biden's victory in 2020 was a case of "Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it" Midwestern Democrat Dec 20 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Dec 18 #3

Closest was Franklin Pierce or William H. Taft ITAL Dec 18 #17

Trump's "skill set" qualifies him? live love laugh Dec 18 #20

the statement concerning the 'hands off stance' is just fundamentally factual stopdiggin Dec 18 #5

Every good administration has kept that "purity stance". nilram Dec 19 #35

and - while I desperately fear that it may not be possible to put the genie back stopdiggin Dec 20 #51

Harris is correct: Justice dept. should be independent, no political or personal influence. betsuni Dec 18 #8

I'm sorry but mr715 Dec 18 #12

I care about his feelings PatSeg Dec 19 #30

Don't worry. Biden will be okay. He's much better off than the most of us under Trump. Intractable Dec 20 #57

And that is the sort of thing PatSeg Dec 20 #59

Empathy can be performative mr715 Dec 20 #64

You are right. The feelings of millions who lose their healthcare because of Trump, lose benefits to feed their Doodley Dec 20 #81

Agree 100 percent with your comments karynnj Dec 19 #43

Klobuchar as VP in 2020 or as the presidential candidate in 2024? MichMan Dec 19 #45

You are right. I thought the promise was a woman. karynnj Dec 19 #47

Biden and Harris are adults and friends. JI7 Dec 19 #46

Place blame where it belongs - the voters who didn't vote for her lostnfound Dec 19 #49

Beautiful said. Sadly true. Doodley Dec 20 #82