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meadowlander

(5,105 posts)
46. I've always said "When your enemy is agreeing with you STFU and let them."
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 11:38 AM
Dec 31

I don't understand this compulsion, every time a Republican behaves in a positive way, for DUers to trot out the list of every bad thing they've ever done in their life.

Yes, they're a bad person who has done bad things. We all know this. But we need to create incentives for them to do what we want them to do. That's how we persuade people and turn this train wreck around. Positive reinforcement works at least 20 times as well for learning as negative reinforcement. And we can't do that if every time a Republican pops their head above the surface and does something brave speaking out against their team, we then pile on to remind them of what a piece of shit they are otherwise.

Noting that MTG is right for once and agrees with me doesn't mean I'm endorsing her entire worldview or excusing the terrible shit she has done in the past. It just means that on this one thing she's showing promise of coming around to the right opinion. We have to be able to let people do that or they will keep digging in. Save the pile on for the issues and opinions where they are still wrong.

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No bashing............... Lovie777 Dec 31 #1
You dont have to trust them to support them when they're in the right. Callie1979 Dec 31 #3
Excellent analogy gab13by13 Dec 31 #7
Right, it's not like we are supporting them for political office JI7 Dec 31 #15
Yup. There will be enough MAGGOTS bashing them anyway, no reason for us to Jack Valentino Dec 31 #108
It took John McCain (almost literally dying) mr715 Dec 31 #99
I would tell MTG to her face; I dont agree with many of your positions; Callie1979 Dec 31 #2
She's hopping of the ship purr-rat beauty Dec 31 #35
She actually believed him when he said he supported releasing the info Callie1979 Jan 1 #111
They can switch parties then, otherwise they are pukes that did one right thing once. Blues Heron Dec 31 #4
But what's wrong with that ? Why do they need to switch parties ? What's wrong with opposing Trump JI7 Dec 31 #16
It's great, but let's not get carried away here, they are pukes and not to be trusted. Blues Heron Dec 31 #18
I don't see anyone getting carried away here, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 31 #28
There's every reason bash them continuously for being Nazis, this seems like Stockholm syndrome or something Blues Heron Dec 31 #29
Who here is saying their our friends? MarineCombatEngineer Dec 31 #32
Ok we'll do us and you can do you Blues Heron Dec 31 #40
That's just stupid. This is the both sides mentality. JI7 Dec 31 #48
There is a space between attacking them and supporting/trusting them. mr715 Dec 31 #97
I'm in the bash-away camp. Gore1FL Dec 31 #5
I think you are wrong, gab13by13 Dec 31 #8
I submit the Epstein files would have eventually came out; all but one republican voted to release it. Gore1FL Dec 31 #73
Nothing attracts a crowd like a crowd underpants Dec 31 #6
Nancy Mace should apologize to our congresswoman Sarah McBride, whom she treated like shit j Walleye Dec 31 #9
She never will because she isn't serious. mr715 Dec 31 #100
No bashing here, I applaud them for standing up to Trumpedo, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 31 #10
I mean, St. Paul was once Saul, a murderer. gab13by13 Dec 31 #11
So the story goes, anyhow. MineralMan Dec 31 #38
I agree that the likes of MTG, Boebert, Massie, etc. don't have our best interests as a priority, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 31 #41
Sure. It's good that she has turned on Trump. MineralMan Dec 31 #42
Agreed. nt MarineCombatEngineer Dec 31 #43
I gave money to my only Democratic Rep in Pa. John Fetterman, gab13by13 Dec 31 #70
Trump took power a year ago with a fresh solid Jenga Tower. JohnnyRingo Dec 31 #12
Like the Allies joined with Russia in WWII. Irish_Dem Dec 31 #13
That's the same analogy SCantiGOP Dec 31 #45
I seriously doubt the howler monkey twins are gonna save the world! MorbidButterflyTat Dec 31 #66
Yep at least Stalin helped us win the war. Irish_Dem Dec 31 #71
Mace is genuinely cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs ecstatic Dec 31 #14
Truth telling and facts ZDU Dec 31 #17
"These people are tiny cracks in Krasnov's armor who live in Magat districts who can bring unwashed Magats over to our WhiskeyGrinder Dec 31 #19
Have you not been watching the special elections? gab13by13 Dec 31 #21
. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 31 #24
I am not expecting a Magat movement, gab13by13 Dec 31 #36
Not necessarily, but they can urge their contituents to sit out the mid terms MarineCombatEngineer Dec 31 #31
Have any of them said they were gonna do that? MorbidButterflyTat Dec 31 #67
I have no idea if or if not any of them have urged their constituents MarineCombatEngineer Dec 31 #89
MTG and Milo today talking about all the Republicans on X today saying they will not pay their taxes in protest womanofthehills Dec 31 #93
Yeah, Sure ProfessorGAC Dec 31 #105
We needed the Soviet Union to side with us in World War II Norbert Dec 31 #20
MTG and Nancy Mace want to eradicate all trans people. Nancy Mace uses transphobic slurs repeatedly. Oneironaut Dec 31 #22
. MorbidButterflyTat Dec 31 #68
Goebbels doesn't get kudos mr715 Dec 31 #96
I have no words anymore BootOutTheGoons Jan 1 #110
In 2025, both Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) and Lauren Boebert (R-CO) have maintained very high levels of alignment with CentralMass Dec 31 #23
Excellent, citing their actual records is all that needs to done displacedvermoter Dec 31 #80
Praising them is an even worse idea. MineralMan Dec 31 #25
I love watching them call out Trump womanofthehills Dec 31 #49
They're causing headaches for MustLoveBeagles Dec 31 #26
Let them fight it out. aocommunalpunch Dec 31 #27
I think you're wrong and here's why: yardwork Dec 31 #30
IMO the opposite happened, gab13by13 Dec 31 #72
MTG, for instance, is a shrewd politician. yardwork Dec 31 #87
Mmmm...their damage is Done purr-rat beauty Dec 31 #33
I don't Rebl2 Dec 31 #34
All of you people who disagree with me, gab13by13 Dec 31 #37
Oh, my! MineralMan Dec 31 #39
I will have a phone on me purr-rat beauty Dec 31 #54
If that's all it takes for them to turn on me, fuck them. Their support for us is piss poor or nonexistent. ... marble falls Dec 31 #60
A decent person would just call 911! Not stupidly ask, "Hey, you're half dead, need some help?" MorbidButterflyTat Dec 31 #65
WTH? mr715 Dec 31 #101
If I got into a car wreck and they knew I was trans... BootOutTheGoons Jan 1 #109
I'm Not ConstanceCee Dec 31 #44
I've always said "When your enemy is agreeing with you STFU and let them." meadowlander Dec 31 #46
Here we go again... like when RWNJ Liz Cheney became a hero. WarGamer Dec 31 #47
Nobody here is claiming they're heroes, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 31 #50
I 100% agree Kaleva Dec 31 #58
How is not bashing someone the same as proclaiming them to be a hero? Kaleva Dec 31 #57
Who said they were admirable? gab13by13 Dec 31 #75
Playing footsie with Liz won us absolutely zero votes, but it did cost us. JHB Dec 31 #91
THIS. 100% WarGamer Dec 31 #94
Adam Kitzinger was also paraded around mr715 Dec 31 #104
Hand them a "participated" trophy, but stop there. They were part of the problem. JHB Dec 31 #106
Which is funny, mr715 Dec 31 #107
Dayum mr715 Dec 31 #103
These are awful people Quiet Em Dec 31 #51
They are awful people, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 31 #53
I agree that the infighting among the MAGA cult can benefit Democrats Quiet Em Dec 31 #55
Agreed and a Happy New Year. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 31 #61
Happy New Year to you as well. Quiet Em Dec 31 #63
I may be an optimist some_of_us_are_sane Dec 31 #52
Everyone, please concentrate on a positive program and actions to smash the Party of Pedo Protectors usonian Dec 31 #56
An old saying Timewas Dec 31 #59
She co-drove the bus that took us to this #ell! Hope22 Dec 31 #62
Who's bashing? MorbidButterflyTat Dec 31 #64
What is the consequence? Cirsium Dec 31 #69
Several things can be true at once ibegurpard Dec 31 #74
I haven't seen anyone suggest we get fully behind them Kaleva Dec 31 #77
Yes! Let them be..... frogstar0 Dec 31 #76
You'll not see me siding with Trump in attacking his enemies Kaleva Dec 31 #78
Yes, using people is politics. betsuni Dec 31 #79
Nothing is preventing them from flipping to the Democratic Party and being centrists. 33taw Dec 31 #81
100% correct. orangecrush Dec 31 #82
I won't bash them, but I don't support them, either calguy Dec 31 #83
Disagree with them when they're wrong, but.... LogDog75 Dec 31 #84
Yes. For now. Scrivener7 Dec 31 #85
Tell them it is now very clear to even the magats (except the pedophiles) that Justice matters. Dec 31 #86
When they oppose Trump, give them a treat thought crime Dec 31 #88
We've had this debate before, about NeverTrumpers. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" stuff. JHB Dec 31 #90
The reality is... purr-rat beauty Dec 31 #92
"Stole from us" mr715 Dec 31 #95
We need all the dissidents we can get. IluvPitties Dec 31 #98
I don't like any of them personally. Initech Dec 31 #102
Not every thought needs to be expressed. BannonsLiver Jan 1 #112
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