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103. Check out what this guy has to say....thought provoking

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 02:22 PM

Dec 2012

re-post from another thread because it's important.

David Healy, Pharmageddon
Has American health care been highjacked by Big Pharma?
http://www.amazon.com/Pharmageddon-David-Healy/dp/0520270983/
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This searing indictment, David Healy's most comprehensive and forceful argument against the pharmaceuticalization of medicine, tackles problems in health care that are leading to a growing number of deaths and disabilities. Healy, who was the first to draw attention to the now well-publicized suicide-inducing side effects of many anti-depressants, attributes our current state of affairs to three key factors: product rather than process patents on drugs, the classification of certain drugs as prescription-only, and industry-controlled drug trials. These developments have tied the survival of pharmaceutical companies to the development of blockbuster drugs, so that they must overhype benefits and deny real hazards. Healy further explains why these trends have basically ended the possibility of universal health care in the United States and elsewhere around the world. He concludes with suggestions for reform of our currently corrupted evidence-based medical system.

Check out the reviews. David Healy is probably the leading world expert on SSRI drugs.

Free podcast-interview with Dr. Healy- Jefferson Exchange- October 2, 2012 Phamargeddon
http://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/jpr/id/2084251

this might be a starting point into understanding why our "health care" system is the way it is.

Something must be done. Does this generation want to give this system to the next? They might not be so happy about that...

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Drug goes from $50/vial to $28,000/vial. Best Healthcare in the world, Baby! [View all] n2doc Dec 2012 OP

The cost of medicine is outrageous Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #1

Did it work for you? Curmudgeoness Dec 2012 #18

The neat thing about MS drugs Mariana Dec 2012 #67

I know right? How wonderful for the drug companies it works that way Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #111

Beats being dead. Richard Cleary Dec 2012 #84

Which was my point. Curmudgeoness Dec 2012 #86

Invisible hand not working in health care Clouseau2 Dec 2012 #104

It is worse than that! Sometimes drugs fall out of "copyright" and patent truedelphi Dec 2012 #105

Ann Romney n/t wilt the stilt Dec 2012 #23

She already gave at the office malz Dec 2012 #76

Man,they should be paying YOU to tke the drug.!! pangaia Dec 2012 #24

my sister's prothetic leg costs 45 grand each time a new one is needed which is every roguevalley Dec 2012 #25

That is just a huge amt of money. Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #112

thank you, darling. I need it tonight. roguevalley Jan 2013 #118

Not sure if you've seen it yet, but you might be interested in this video/brief lecture: drokhole Dec 2012 #77

Thanks, I have seen it! Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #113

MY WIFE HAD HEP "C" ROBROX Dec 2012 #80

Prescription Drugs are a ripoff. Richard Cleary Dec 2012 #83

I am also on Copaxone. My part D is going to lapse tomorrow. silvershadow Dec 2012 #97

I took that for a year. It was so painful Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #106

An RN who is a friend of mine living with MS told me she was giving silvershadow Jan 2013 #116

Check out what this guy has to say....thought provoking green for victory Dec 2012 #103

$48k vs. the price of Gold... Grins Dec 2012 #85

This may help. arikara Dec 2012 #89

Thanks! nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #114

I posted this a few days ago Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #102

Thanks but our income is too high to qualify for anything Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #107

Check to see if the drug company kurtzapril4 Jan 2013 #110

read this whole article watch the sky Dec 2012 #2

Exactly! primavera Dec 2012 #27

Not only that, but they control publication skepticscott Dec 2012 #32

Damn primavera Dec 2012 #35

The students that worked on all or portions...... MAD Dave Dec 2012 #40

It should, but it doesn't skepticscott Dec 2012 #44

In a properly run world Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #54

This is one of the things that really upsets me and has kept me from plunging glowing Dec 2012 #65

Me too ! MAD Dave Dec 2012 #79

I found this out nearly 11 years ago tavalon Dec 2012 #62

No society DOESN'T tolerate those costs. JimDandy Dec 2012 #78

Drink Cherry juice and the gout will go away... WCGreen Dec 2012 #3

As a gout sufferer I have to agree on the cherry juice underpants Dec 2012 #6

It works on my busted up, arthritic knees and keeps me from having to take a prescription .... marble falls Dec 2012 #66

I found out about a new (to me) supplement at a party yesterday underpants Dec 2012 #68

I use it in aquarium filters. I can see where there are minerals - I need to read up on it, thanks! marble falls Dec 2012 #72

Any particular brands? Concentrations? Non-sweetened? SHRED Dec 2012 #70

I get organic 100% cherry juice underpants Dec 2012 #73

I like Hansons - unsweetened and undiluted and with no additives. I drink a glass a day and have .. marble falls Dec 2012 #74

I understand it helps even with simple arthritis--you have to get the quality stuff, though, MADem Dec 2012 #93

WCGreen Diclotican Dec 2012 #12

COLCHICINE sorefeet Dec 2012 #49

sorefeet Diclotican Dec 2012 #55

COLCHICINE meets the FDA green for victory Dec 2012 #63

+1000 DeSwiss Dec 2012 #42

Blood Sucking Leeches are offended........These assholes are far worse.. Stuart G Dec 2012 #4

Why mtasselin Dec 2012 #5

It is - this is in NYT Doctor_J Dec 2012 #9

Is one of the largest newspapers in circulation somehow not public? (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #47

Holy shit! Warpy Dec 2012 #7

But they're a corporation! Can't interfere with them! Doctor_J Dec 2012 #8

I process copays daily for drugs like this underpants Dec 2012 #10

New Biotech Drugs Are a Big Cause of Escalating Medical Costs Indykatie Dec 2012 #14

This is why the necessities of life should not be left to for-profits; snot Dec 2012 #11

Read this article..almost unbelieveable...but this company does what it does...and within the law.. Stuart G Dec 2012 #13

Thank you Congress .. no capability for negotiating on drug pricing and... YOHABLO Dec 2012 #15

+1000! SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #41

Thank You Billy Tauzin! Joe Bacon Dec 2012 #45

+1 Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #59

It takes a large number of Americans just not giving a damn about anyone except themselves... stillwaiting Dec 2012 #51

Meh ... CranialRectaLoopback Dec 2012 #16

Pig brains are suspected as one source of "mad cow" disease. McCamy Taylor Dec 2012 #17

Why does one pharmacy charge $320 and another $10 for the same drug? QED Dec 2012 #19

lame excuse - most companies don't take a $310 loss as a "loss leader" salin Dec 2012 #22

in canada the government negotiates with riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #28

Drug pricing makes even less sense than airline fares. subterranean Dec 2012 #48

That sounds uniquely American! Just like we were told we wanted Dragonfli Dec 2012 #20

a 100% increase in price would be $100 per same amount. salin Dec 2012 #21

My doctor believes there is a treatment for my Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #26

Past time to have governmnet manufacturing orphan drugs - if hedgehog Dec 2012 #29

My insurance has been screwed up for 2 months now - hedgehog Dec 2012 #30

"Short-sellers have written scathing criticisms of the company..." DCKit Dec 2012 #31

I cannot think of Heathen57 Dec 2012 #33

Marijuana is a virtually FREE help for inflammation and arthritis RainDog Dec 2012 #34

Antidepressants to treat grief? Psychiatry panelists with ties to drug industry say yes Leopolds Ghost Dec 2012 #36

Marijuana study: eases pain AND suppresses disease RainDog Dec 2012 #37

Every time I go to the doctor now I see an army of young women aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2012 #38

They are called "detailers" and they are all over,as you said. virgogal Dec 2012 #43

They're bringing lunch or other goodies to the docs and staff. Laffy Kat Dec 2012 #46

Yup..... physioex Dec 2012 #53

Sadly, this is how a lot of docs keep up with new meds. They do get samples Hoyt Dec 2012 #57

They used to be only men, under the theory that only men had marybourg Dec 2012 #82

Holy shit - the health care industry really doesn't give a shit. Initech Dec 2012 #39

The key word there is "industry" primavera Dec 2012 #52

It's a business Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #50

blood sucking leeches indeed. they charge it because they can. that's the only reason. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #56

the Doc gets a piece of the action .nt quadrature Dec 2012 #58

No they don't get any of the 'action' unless of course they own stock azurnoir Dec 2012 #60

These people are worse than blood sucking leeches intaglio Dec 2012 #61

The inevitable, clearly demonstrated, and often predicted outcome of for-profit health care. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #64

Novartis just raised Sandostatin LAR by over $2000 proReality Dec 2012 #69

link requires a subscription to the NYT SHRED Dec 2012 #71

To get around, open link in new window. n/t n2doc Dec 2012 #75

Investors and 401k holders profit everytime someone is denied treatment. raouldukelives Dec 2012 #81

there's only one solution MisterP Dec 2012 #87

simply ridiculous leftwingman5225m Dec 2012 #88

Call me a commie, but health care should not be a for profit enterprise. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #90

Commie.... physioex Dec 2012 #94

low dose naltrexone has made major improvement in my inflammatory arthritis and Nhrtuvdxi Dec 2012 #91

I asked my neuro about LDN for my MS. He wouldn't even talk about it for his MS patients. silvershadow Dec 2012 #98

So sorry he won't consider it. If you're interested there are groups and lists and you Nhrtuvdxi Dec 2012 #101

Thank you. I will check them out sometime later. My new year begins with silvershadow Jan 2013 #117

Reprehensible tawadi Dec 2012 #92

We need to reduce funding for medical research, because that is the ultimate driver of costs FarCenter Dec 2012 #95

Costs are MUCH lower outside the US drmjg Dec 2012 #96

Something needs to be done about these kleptomaniac corporations. Undismayed Dec 2012 #99

A tiny googling Rainforestgoddess Dec 2012 #100

NO R&D costs; Manufacturing costs are ONE cent per dollar! Divernan Dec 2012 #108

Big Pharm bigbadR Jan 2013 #109

The only difference between Big Rx and crack dealers is the lab coats and pocket protectors. Erose999 Jan 2013 #115