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angrychair

(12,026 posts)
18. While, yes, the story being told is false
Tue Feb 24, 2026, 12:03 AM
Yesterday

Let's just get this part out of the way first so I can't have my intentions misinterpreted:
In full disclosure Newsom is NOT my pick for president and I freely admit I will fight for almost anyone else but him in the primary process.
That said, to be clear: if Newsom wins the primary I will support him and vote for him.
Now that is out of the way...
The words he said and who he was saying it to still make this very rough around the edges and a bit unseemly in my opinion.

I’m not trying to impress you, I’m just trying to impress upon you; I’m like you. I’m no better than you. You know, I’m a 960 SAT guy, you know, and I’m not trying to offend anyone, you know, trying to act all-there if you got 940- But literally a 960 SAT guy,


The person he said that to was Andre Dickens, the Black mayor of Atlanta.

So, I freely admit that some would not find that racist, while others might.

Why would I say that?

Because the implications is that he did poorly on his SAT and unless he knows him well seems like a odd assumption. Not only that he did poorly but also because he might not be that smart. Also a bit of an odd assumption. The statement sounded a little condescending to be honest. At least in my opinion.

Also to be clear, he kind of walked into a field of landmines. Here is the rub with standardized tests like the SAT: historically standardized tests have had a tendency to test Blacks and Latinos poorly due to a white centric lean in word problem creation and literary references. Another significant factor is typically, due to systemic racism and redlining, people that live in poorer areas have fewer educational resources and poorer educational outcomes and therefore, on average, poorer outcomes on standardized tests than white people from primarily white suburban areas. That isn't my opinion but supported by years of peer-reviewed scientific studies.

While I'm willing to admit maybe that wasn't his intention, it's still not a good look when examined in context. Mistakes like these can be overcome but we need candidates that think before they speak and not become fodder for some ignorant racist's podcast.
Tried to give several references to show I'm not trying to denigrate anyone but have an honest discussion as to why some might see things a different way and might see the comment as racist or a little tone deaf.
References:
https://theatlantavoice.com/testing-bias-black-students/

https://www.nea.org/nea-today/all-news-articles/racist-beginnings-standardized-testing

https://wordinblack.com/2024/02/culturally-blind-standardized-tests-more-like-culturally-biased/

https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1473284.pdf

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Yep. And it wasn't even close to what he said. Wiz Imp had the actual quote. Scrivener7 Monday #1
Thanks. applegrove Monday #4
Can you believe the gall of these people? Scrivener7 Monday #5
Unfortunately a lie will make it 1/2 way around the world applegrove Monday #7
He's my governor.............. Lovie777 Monday #2
And PS: Where is OUR bot network?? Scrivener7 Monday #3
It seems to be attacking Democrats as well because they, like MAGA, view us as the enemy. W_HAMILTON Monday #10
What are you talking about? Scrivener7 Monday #12
There are bots, among others on social media, that attack from the left... W_HAMILTON Monday #17
Oh. That again. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #26
Guess who else was pushing it? senseandsensibility Monday #6
And, sadly, it got past our alert system here on DU - multiple times. PeaceWave Monday #8
Damn. Scrivener7 Monday #9
But ... but ... but ... "Constructive criticism" or some such bullshit. betsuni Monday #11
I noticed that. Polly Hennessey Monday #15
It sure did. Swede 20 hrs ago #30
I noticed. yardwork 19 hrs ago #31
And spread right here on DU. Kingofalldems Monday #13
I tried. Scrivener7 Monday #14
Usonian nails it once again! 🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨 usonian Monday #16
and yet the OP is not self-deleted even though it has been pointed out by several in that thread how the social media lostincalifornia Yesterday #20
I threatened to alert on it. Been too busy with this "real world" stuff. usonian Yesterday #25
I tried. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #28
That OP often posts about things that Democratic leaders never did Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #27
While, yes, the story being told is false angrychair Yesterday #18
Yeah. Nope. Don't see it. I think you might find more who agree with you in the other thread. PeaceWave Yesterday #21
Dickens: "We don't need anyone to tell us when to be offended. And history has shown ... when we are, you'll know." betsuni Yesterday #22
I don't see it pinkstarburst 17 hrs ago #33
Honestly angrychair 14 hrs ago #36
The misinformation continues Renew Deal 15 hrs ago #35
What is unfortunate is how some people accept anything posted on social media without question. Just looking at lostincalifornia Yesterday #19
Yes SunImp Yesterday #23
So true: "not blindly accept..." DFW Yesterday #24
They're going to keep doing this, y'all pinkstarburst 20 hrs ago #29
I wish people would show more discretion. yardwork 19 hrs ago #32
And when Democrats are bashed because of a negative headline, lie, prediction of doom, assumption of betsuni 15 hrs ago #34
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