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87. Is it my view that Israel is dictating policy directly to the female Muslim Home Secretary?

Mon Jun 1, 2026, 11:37 PM

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No.

The Home Secretary carries out the policies of the U.K. government, which IS vigourously Pro-Israel. To the extent that free speech is now drastically curtailed in the U.K. and Palestinian supporters are criminalized and jailed.

Fact: it was "Jewish groups" that objected to granting Piker entry and lobbied the U.K. government, successfully.

Are those U.K. Jewish groups lobbying on behalf of Israel? I can't say, don't know enough about them, and unlike Netanyahu, I don't conflate Jews with Israel. (Now if it was AIPAC, I might give a definite yes based on evidence). These UK groups have taken the "anti-semitic and dangerous terrorist supporter" angle, mirroring the same views as Israel, coincidentally - or not.

Your Piker questions? I have just today read up on him. What I think is that the "open support" part of your question is debatable. His statements reflect his strong distaste for Israel's actions. He made the comparison with Hamas' actions and said Israel is a thousand times worse. He said he has no issue with Hezbollah.

Are these political views "open support"? Do they make him a "terrorist supporter" - a favourite phrase of Trump and Rubio, used to excuse all manner of first amendment and free speech violations against Palestinian supporters? Are people never going to be allowed now to claim legitimacy for a Palestinian resistance because of Hamas' October 7th crimes? Are people not allowed to say they are more disgusted with Israel's actions than they are with Hamas if that is how they truly feel?

I made statements to the effect that Israel has surpassed a hundred October Sevenths. Does that mean I support terrorism?

So I don't really have a straightforward answer for you but I hope you might think about some of my own questions.

But I do think this is a very slippery slope.

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