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LymphocyteLover

(10,271 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 07:33 AM Yesterday

If the Strait of Hormuz doesn't open soon, as seems likely, there will be a massive economic crash [View all]

From "The Other 98%" on FB:

"If the Strait of Hormuz never reopens, the life you know starts coming apart by this fall. An actual apocalypse. Not as a metaphor. As a supply chain. And nobody in the media will walk you through what that actually looks like.
So let’s walk you through it.

For three months, a fifth of the world's oil has been cut off. You haven't felt the full weight of it yet, and there's a reason for that. The world had a cushion. Enormous reserves of oil sitting in storage, built up over years.

We've been burning through that cushion to keep the gas flowing and the prices from exploding. Quietly. Fast. At a pace never seen outside a global pandemic.

Here's the part the optimists keep skipping: a cushion is not a faucet. It runs out. And when you are near the bottom, you don't get a gentle warning. You lose the pressure that keeps fuel moving to every station, every truck, every farm, all at once.

The experts who war-game this for a living have a name for that moment. The operational floor. And the worst-case estimates put it around this fall.

Now picture it. The strait stays shut. The reserves hit empty. And the thing that's been hiding this crisis simply vanishes.

Diesel goes first, and diesel is what moves the world. The trucks that restock your grocery store. The trains. The cargo ships. The combines that bring in the harvest.

Translation, the supply chains we depend on to get our food and medicines disappear.

Food doesn't disappear because we stopped growing it. It disappears because nothing can afford to move it, and because fertilizer is made from natural gas, so the next harvest costs a fortune before it's even planted.

Translation. Grocery stores are closed. People will starve.

Factories across Europe and Asia go dark. Entire countries that import every drop they burn get crushed first. And oil itself blows past every record in human history, into numbers with no modern precedent, because the whole planet is fighting over a fraction of what it needs.

That is not a gas-price story. That is the machinery of modern civilization losing pressure everywhere, simultaneously.

And this isn't a fringe nightmare. The Atlantic Council says strategic reserves are "no match for massive, sustained production outages," and calls this disruption "without precedent."

And the oil shock is only the first domino. Modern economies run on cheap, predictable energy the way a body runs on oxygen, and when you choke it off everywhere at once, everything downstream seizes.

Translation. Worldwide economic collapse. The Great Depression on steroids (and we will beg for the days of the 2008 recession)

The scariest part isn't that this scenario exists. It's that the people who could stop it keep insisting everything is fine. The Treasury Secretary swears gas will be cheaper by the midterms. The reserves keep falling anyway.

This is the bill a war of choice put on the table. And the men who put it there are governing like it can't come due.

The cushion is almost gone, and the silence is the scariest part."

Even if this is exaggerated, there's little doubt we are in for very hard times soon.

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The shit is on the wing orangecrush Yesterday #1
The storage cushion is fudgy. bucolic_frolic Yesterday #2
President Bone Spurs had a plan to get out of Vietnam. Emile Yesterday #3
Daddy's not buying his way out of this one. dem4decades Yesterday #4
From another perspective cachukis Yesterday #5
there's definitely been some adaptation... but still a lot has been kept afloat by the reserves that are likely to run LymphocyteLover Yesterday #27
No question. One of my worries is the takeover of cachukis Yesterday #31
Absolutely. I totally agree on all those points. The stock market is particularly a mess IMO LymphocyteLover Yesterday #32
Have invested mostly in real estate over the last cachukis Yesterday #34
Why would " Diesel goes first"??? Melon Yesterday #6
800,000 to 1.2 million SamuelTheThird Yesterday #11
It's one country. Multiply across all oil producing Melon 22 hrs ago #41
Yes, but the key is how long the strait stays closed and how quickly the reserves run out LymphocyteLover Yesterday #28
Diesel is often made from mideastern crude while gasoline is made from US crude JT45242 Yesterday #30
Not In The US, Though ProfessorGAC 7 hrs ago #45
Completely wrong. GreatGazoo Yesterday #7
lol@your link SamuelTheThird Yesterday #10
You ignored all the numbers to nitpick about semantics GreatGazoo Yesterday #15
Are America's strategic reserves at a 40 year low right before the summer season? SamuelTheThird Yesterday #19
Traders in Singapore, Beijing and Mumbai aren't duped by whatever Trump says GreatGazoo Yesterday #36
This message was self-deleted by its author LymphocyteLover Yesterday #29
Futures Are Not Delivery modrepub 23 hrs ago #39
"futures price contracts probably isn't a good predictor of actual future prices" -- meaning spot prices, yes GreatGazoo 19 hrs ago #42
Future Prices Are Not Necessarily modrepub 9 hrs ago #43
No. For anyone holding a March contract at $63 their price in March was $63 GreatGazoo 8 hrs ago #44
Appreciate your insight as I'm an admitted economic idiot. I can see where Exxon would be trying to "warn" Cheezoholic Yesterday #21
Futures lock in a price right now GreatGazoo Yesterday #22
Admittedly, Im no expert or even amateur...but SamuelTheThird Yesterday #35
Since oil is sold as futures there is more profit when buyers panic about the future GreatGazoo Yesterday #37
All hinging on a deal that isn't going to happen SamuelTheThird Yesterday #38
Last week Exxon Mobil warned that oil inventories will fall to record low levels in coming weeks LymphocyteLover Yesterday #33
Demand destruction WSHazel Yesterday #8
"one of the key reasons that Trump started this conflict was to increase energy prices"-- agree LymphocyteLover Yesterday #25
And it's all part of the plan... 2naSalit Yesterday #9
Excellent summation. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #12
I don't think the Strait of Hormuz never reopening is going to happen, but it will not reopen without a major shock ToxMarz Yesterday #13
Agree. Thanks for the link. LymphocyteLover Yesterday #24
Kick dalton99a Yesterday #14
MAGA does the full collapse kairos12 Yesterday #16
First the bastids want to grift off it, if they can. GreenWave Yesterday #17
But I thouight it would be open in two weeks. AverageOldGuy Yesterday #18
That's the point. Blue Full Moon Yesterday #20
Unbelievably awful LymphocyteLover Yesterday #23
It's happening now as we speak. marble falls Yesterday #26
Remember that the UAE left OPEC a few weeks ago WSHazel 22 hrs ago #40
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