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GreatGazoo

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37. Since oil is sold as futures there is more profit when buyers panic about the future
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 03:17 PM
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It's like if someone was selling fire insurance and we are in a wicked drought. And they run around saying 'Wow our experts say this drought is going to last another year so you should buy at these high rates now before we have to raise rates even higher.' They are trying to rush more people to pay the high rate before it rains.

If the USA accepts the $1 per barrel deal that Iran wants on the Strait then oil goes back down to like $70. Exxon wants to sell as much as they can as high as they can before any bigger deal is confirmed and prices drop further. Some predict a glut about two weeks after a deal that holds.

Toward the bottom of linked:

If a peace deal is signed that appears likely to hold, then two-to-four weeks looks like a sensible starting point for clearing the Gulf backlog and restoring shipping patterns, with flows possibly ramping back towards full levels after another two-to-four weeks, according to Houston-based Vikas Dwivedi, global energy strategist at Macquarie Group.

In this base-case scenario, in which the market believes a deal is real and has staying power, the sell-off would be immediate and large, approximately US$20 in one week. This would be followed by a two-week consolidation period, and then a period in which logistical and financial issues are repriced. “After this, we expect the market to end up with far too much oil again as mitigation sources of supply continue as Hormuz flow ramps up, creating a physically driven overshoot to the downside,” underlines Dwivedi. “Finally, prices trend toward a normalisation of crude supply and demand and a return to what we believe is the fair value range of US$65 to US$70 per barrel,” he concludes.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/inside-the-iran-deal-that-may-change-nothing-but-could-smash-oil-prices-anyway/ar-AA24yGAr

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The shit is on the wing orangecrush Thursday #1
The storage cushion is fudgy. bucolic_frolic Thursday #2
President Bone Spurs had a plan to get out of Vietnam. Emile Thursday #3
Daddy's not buying his way out of this one. dem4decades Thursday #4
From another perspective cachukis Thursday #5
there's definitely been some adaptation... but still a lot has been kept afloat by the reserves that are likely to run LymphocyteLover Thursday #27
No question. One of my worries is the takeover of cachukis Thursday #31
Absolutely. I totally agree on all those points. The stock market is particularly a mess IMO LymphocyteLover Thursday #32
Have invested mostly in real estate over the last cachukis Thursday #34
Why would " Diesel goes first"??? Melon Thursday #6
800,000 to 1.2 million SamuelTheThird Thursday #11
It's one country. Multiply across all oil producing Melon Thursday #41
Yes, but the key is how long the strait stays closed and how quickly the reserves run out LymphocyteLover Thursday #28
Diesel is often made from mideastern crude while gasoline is made from US crude JT45242 Thursday #30
Not In The US, Though ProfessorGAC 18 hrs ago #45
Completely wrong. GreatGazoo Thursday #7
lol@your link SamuelTheThird Thursday #10
You ignored all the numbers to nitpick about semantics GreatGazoo Thursday #15
Are America's strategic reserves at a 40 year low right before the summer season? SamuelTheThird Thursday #19
Traders in Singapore, Beijing and Mumbai aren't duped by whatever Trump says GreatGazoo Thursday #36
This message was self-deleted by its author LymphocyteLover Thursday #29
Futures Are Not Delivery modrepub Thursday #39
"futures price contracts probably isn't a good predictor of actual future prices" -- meaning spot prices, yes GreatGazoo Thursday #42
Future Prices Are Not Necessarily modrepub 21 hrs ago #43
No. For anyone holding a March contract at $63 their price in March was $63 GreatGazoo 20 hrs ago #44
Appreciate your insight as I'm an admitted economic idiot. I can see where Exxon would be trying to "warn" Cheezoholic Thursday #21
Futures lock in a price right now GreatGazoo Thursday #22
Admittedly, Im no expert or even amateur...but SamuelTheThird Thursday #35
Since oil is sold as futures there is more profit when buyers panic about the future GreatGazoo Thursday #37
All hinging on a deal that isn't going to happen SamuelTheThird Thursday #38
Last week Exxon Mobil warned that oil inventories will fall to record low levels in coming weeks LymphocyteLover Thursday #33
Demand destruction WSHazel Thursday #8
"one of the key reasons that Trump started this conflict was to increase energy prices"-- agree LymphocyteLover Thursday #25
And it's all part of the plan... 2naSalit Thursday #9
Excellent summation. Kid Berwyn Thursday #12
I don't think the Strait of Hormuz never reopening is going to happen, but it will not reopen without a major shock ToxMarz Thursday #13
Agree. Thanks for the link. LymphocyteLover Thursday #24
Kick dalton99a Thursday #14
MAGA does the full collapse kairos12 Thursday #16
First the bastids want to grift off it, if they can. GreenWave Thursday #17
But I thouight it would be open in two weeks. AverageOldGuy Thursday #18
That's the point. Blue Full Moon Thursday #20
Unbelievably awful LymphocyteLover Thursday #23
It's happening now as we speak. marble falls Thursday #26
Remember that the UAE left OPEC a few weeks ago WSHazel Thursday #40
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