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gab13by13

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14. It wasn't Obama's deal, stop laying the JPCOA solely on him

Wed Jun 17, 2026, 08:22 AM

Jun 17

China
France
Germany
Iran
Russia
UK
USA

All of those countries plus the involvement of the International community in inspecting Iran's nuclear facilities were all involved. The agreement took nearly 2 years to complete.

It is not Obama's deal, leaving out those other countries is a right wing talking point.

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Full Text of the 14 point agreement with Iran [View all] Johnny2X2X Jun 17 OP

It's insane Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #1

Appreciations (and) wyn borkins Jun 17 #5

Trump surrendered. sop Jun 17 #76

I like "The Islamic Republic of Iran REITERATES that it will never produce nuclear weapons" Prairie Gates Jun 17 #11

Yes, total victory for Iran, far better than Obama's deal. As I posted elsewhere, one meme sums it up... thesquanderer Jun 17 #28

IANAL but I read a lot of contracts. This feels like the first draft was written by the Iranians. CincyDem Jun 17 #2

Or maybe written by Putin. (n/t) thesquanderer Jun 17 #33

An absolute complete capitulation. Unbelievable! boston bean Jun 17 #3

Remember how big a sticking point the sanctions were in Obama's deal Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #7

It wasn't Obama's deal, stop laying the JPCOA solely on him gab13by13 Jun 17 #14

Either way Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #16

Why always 14 points and will the Senate reject them as they did for Woodrow Wilson? Ponietz Jun 17 #4

WTAF!!! Phoenix61 Jun 17 #6

Simply stunning Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #9

How can the US speak for the UNSC and the IAEA? maxsolomon Jun 17 #68

This is not good for Israel, and it is Netanyahu's own fault. everyonematters Jun 17 #8

The Iran hawks are going to lose their minds Prairie Gates Jun 17 #10

It's so bad it's embarrassing Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #12

The Iranians were right to seek it Prairie Gates Jun 17 #21

Trump met none of his prewar objectives, and he is providing enormous financial concessions to Tehran. sop Jun 17 #78

I read #1 and quit reading the rest gab13by13 Jun 17 #13

Trump talking out his ass again Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #15

The ONLY reason the U.S. agreed to this completely one-sided MOU YodaMom2 Jun 17 #57

Probably true Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #61

When Iran says USA, does it include Isreal? Those bombs say USA on them. dem4decades Jun 17 #37

Hello, gab13by13 Jun 17 #17

Yeah, who is going to pay Farmer-Rick Jun 17 #31

Lokk in the mirror, it's you and me. dem4decades Jun 17 #39

Exactly Farmer-Rick Jun 17 #46

the 300b is "financing". maxsolomon Jun 17 #70

So it's a loan to be forgiven Farmer-Rick Jun 18 #83

Here's a link to the full text: EarlG Jun 17 #18

I guarantee that Iran isn't going to allow ships to pass through Hormuz without its permission. gab13by13 Jun 17 #19

Tells me Iran was dug in and ready to continue as is indefinitely Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #20

Bingo, gab13by13 Jun 17 #25

Heads I win, tails you lose. jeffreyi Jun 17 #22

I think it's so bad because Trump wants to punish the world Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #24

IMO, this agreement to negotiate later gab13by13 Jun 17 #23

Not even sure that will work Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #26

What are the specifics people want added? Orangenero Jun 17 #27

Inspectors for 1 Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #29

The very 1st point, the ending of the war in Lebanon gab13by13 Jun 17 #32

Could be something to that Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #36

The Gulf States were big losers also gab13by13 Jun 17 #30

I wonder if Qatar will ask for the return of their oversized jet? RainCaster Jun 17 #35

This is the most flaccid agreement I've ever seen RainCaster Jun 17 #34

The ONLY white flag in this, belongs to the US! 70sEraVet Jun 17 #38

To summarize: SamuelAdams Jun 17 #40

Yeah and whats this "Investing in Iran" BS I keep reading? Trump going to build hotels there Bengus81 Jun 17 #42

Sanctions relief includes 24 billion dollars of frozen Iranian money gab13by13 Jun 17 #44

Getting a load of shrink wrap ready for those pallets of CASH Trump? Bengus81 Jun 17 #41

'Produce' is not the same as 'Buy', 'Acquire', 'Trade for' Scalded Nun Jun 17 #43

Seems like a good deal for Iran Deminpenn Jun 17 #58

Nowhere is an inspection regime mentioned... appmanga Jun 17 #45

I cant see Congress agreeing to 300 billion Johonny Jun 17 #47

Is this a joke? This has to be a joke.... Ol Janx Spirit Jun 17 #48

It may be built to fail Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #49

That's entirely plausible--and Occam's Razor would also say yes.... Ol Janx Spirit Jun 17 #53

Point 1... Bibi says no and continues to bomb Lebanon mountain grammy Jun 17 #50

And one of Iran's strategic moves comes to fruition... paleotn Jun 17 #55

Netanyahu's forces in Lebanon are getting so lit up by the fiber optic drones Prairie Gates Jun 17 #59

I hope so.. mountain grammy Jun 17 #60

Israel is not a signatory to this, even though they were one of the parties that launched the war. Nevertheless... Martin Eden Jun 17 #51

Yeah Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #52

Art of the Deal? More like a Squeal. Martin Eden Jun 17 #54

Slightly conditional surrender to Iran Progressive dog Jun 17 #56

You remember Trump's demand for unconditional surrender? Sure looks like conditions apply. tclambert Jun 17 #62

Point #1 will be violated by Netanyahu within the week by attacking Lebanon. Just watch. Wednesdays Jun 17 #63

donnie, the toddler, got his ass handed to him. republianmushroom Jun 17 #64

Where's the part that says Iran gives Trump a trophy for most bestest peacemaker? tclambert Jun 17 #65

Totally nailed down that coveted Islamic Republican Guard Peace Prize Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #67

The MOU is mainly saying they will talk LogDog75 Jun 17 #66

LOL, the administration panicked and released the exact same 14 points with a few sentences added to try to make it look Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #69

But it's actually worse! Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #71

This will be scuttled before it's signed. cab67 Jun 17 #72

AI analysis- Obama deal vs Trump deal TalenaGor Jun 17 #73

I never want to hear again... COL Mustard Jun 17 #74

Probably $450B Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #75

Standard contract "shall" language is missing. Who wrote #4? underpants Jun 17 #77

TRUMP LOST WE PAY JoihInMableton Jun 17 #79

TRUMP WON WE PAY JoihInMableton Jun 17 #80

"while ensuring financing of at least $300 billion" BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 17 #81

And He Signed It at the Palace of Versailles, no less. James48 Jun 17 #82

Would this include Kuwait and Iraq? kentuck Jun 18 #84

Relax... Johnny2X2X Jun 18 #85