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eridani

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38. Nice rationale there for being an accessory after the fact to bullycide
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:16 AM
Jan 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Kelly_Yeomans

In evidence to court, Yeomans was described as a pleasant and friendly girl. However, she was reported to be the victim of repeated harassment and taunting, particularly about her weight. Her parents said that the incessant bullying had left Yeomans feeling miserable. Her mother asserted that she had gone to her daughter's school, Merrill College, Shelton Lock, thirty times to complain about the issue, but received no assistance. School officials, however, claimed they had received only one complaint.

Matters came to a head in September, 1997, when a group of youths reportedly gathered at Yeomans's home on several consecutive nights, on each occasion throwing food at the house and shouting taunts aimed at Yeomans. Her mother later said that the incident prompted Yeomans to tell her family, "It is nothing to do with you Daddy, nothing to do with you Mummy, and nothing to do with you Sarah [her sister]. I have had enough and I'm going to take an overdose."

The parents said they were worried and sought help for their daughter's obvious depression, but did not believe she would carry out her threat to take her own life. However, Yeomans was soon found dead in her bedroom after taking an overdose of painkillers.


Tough to get enough exercise if you can't do it in public for fear of constant vicious abuse.

http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/1997/03/23/met_205736.shtml

Jacqueline Graham still can't bring herself to show her son's room to a stranger, but you don't need to look past the photos in the living room to see who he was: He was the fat kid who didn't have any friends. The easy target. The mark. It's all there in his eyes: The sweetness. The shyness. The hurt.

At 5 feet 4, 174 pounds, he wasn't the heaviest kid at his school. But he was sensitive, and when others teased him about his weight, when they chased him down the street or smacked the back of his head when the teacher wasn't looking, he sometimes cried. In the social hierarchy of fifth grade at Westwood Heights Elementary School, that put him squarely at the bottom.

WOULD THINGS HAVE been any different at Parkway Middle School? Sammy was to have started sixth grade there that Monday, the morning his father cut him down from the tree.

<snip>

He was logical and precise, gifted not only at puzzles but at music and math. He could dissect complex arguments with lawyerly skill. Yet he liked the same toys as his cousin, an infant. And he was awkward and clumsy; he couldn't even clap. Josh rode a bike before he could.

In the water, his awkwardness vanished. Not in the daytime - he was too ashamed to let anyone see him in his bathing suit. He had to swim in long pants and a shirt. But at night, it was magic, like shedding his body. In the water at night, he was free.

<snip>

He can only imagine how it must have happened, how God must have watched Sammy steal into the yard with a flashlight, a rope and a step stool, having pieced together his final puzzle: The body he hated. The school he feared. The perfect place that awaited his soul.

He could go there. He would go there. It would be easy, like swimming. Just position the stool and climb up, toward heaven. Then step into God's waiting arms.

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/exhibitionist/2011/09/marilyn_wann_bullycide.php

Teens who perceive themselves as "too fat" -- regardless of what they actually weigh -- are more likely to think about suicide and attempt suicide, according to a 2005 study.

In April, two 14-year-old best friends in Minnesota, Haylee Fentress and Paige Moravetz, died in a shared suicide. Haylee was teased for her weight and her red hair. Haylee's aunt, Robin Settle, said that although Haylee wasn't "severely overweight," she was so self-conscious she rarely ate at school.

Brian Head was 15. One day, students were pulling his hair and slapping him. He had been bullied for his weight since seventh grade. He shot himself. In a poem discovered later, Brian described himself, "as an insignificant 'thing,' something to be traded, mangled, and mocked," reports Barbara Colorosa, author of The Bully, the Bullied and the Bystander. Brian's father successfully lobbied for a law in Georgia that makes bullying a crime.

Brian's death wasn't the last weight-related bullycide. In 1996, I heard about 12-year-old Samuel Graham, who hanged himself from the family's backyard tree rather than start junior high and face taunts about his weight.

In 2004, eighth-grader April Himes skipped 53 days of school to avoid weight-based bullying. School officials were unable to stop the harassment, but they also informed her she must attend or face a truancy board and possible juvenile detention. At that news, she hanged herself.



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Our Absurd Fear of Fat [View all] eridani Jan 2013 OP
I think that there have been multiple (perhaps thousands) of scientific studies conducted Tutonic Jan 2013 #1
The study in question is a meta-analysis eridani Jan 2013 #2
Oh what scientific basis is he suggesting that very obese people are killed by "social stigma"? Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #5
Like, say, not going to the doctor because the diagnosis is always "lose weight" eridani Jan 2013 #7
the first assertion seems a bit spurious, to say the least. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #16
If people want to rationalize not wanting to be heterosexual eridani Jan 2013 #36
Nice rationale there for being an accessory after the fact to bullycide eridani Jan 2013 #38
The science says something different. It's well-known in the field; moderate overweight - moderate HiPointDem Jan 2013 #43
no. this has been well-known for some time. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #42
Our weight problem is not imaginary cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #3
I wouldn't write off the possibility of unknown environmental variables being a factor, too. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #6
Could very well be the case eridani Jan 2013 #22
a recent study suggests a particular bacteria may induce obesity BainsBane Jan 2013 #54
So? All those people live longer than people did in the 1920s eridani Jan 2013 #9
Trying to redefine very obese as somehow "healthy" isn't going to help. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #18
And you'll see lots of people munching on corndogs and drinking slurpees-- eridani Jan 2013 #21
No one should be "abused", no matter what they look like. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #24
True. However, "some improvement" = "still fat" for most eridani Jan 2013 #30
Except the science says that indeed, moderately obese are healthy, as measured by mortality risk. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #45
I rarely go to the mall, and I don't give a shit what other people do. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #48
There's no such 'standard AMA weight chart'. Old-style Height/Weight charts aren't typically used HiPointDem Jan 2013 #56
Well, women have more fat than men, and we live longer eridani Jan 2013 #57
It's not simply weight, so those height-weight charts don't tell the whole story. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #4
And women with proportionally more fat and less muscle are statistically going to outlive you n/t eridani Jan 2013 #8
Meh Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #15
No, just trying to counter the meme that eridani Jan 2013 #19
Well, women generally outlive men, period. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #23
And if getting sex changes won't help men live longer-- eridani Jan 2013 #44
Oh, Maybe sex changes DO help men live longer. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #46
Actually not. Sex changes shorten men's lives eridani Jan 2013 #47
Did not know that. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #49
Height-weight charts aren't used much anymore in clinical practice. Also, Campos doesn't say HiPointDem Jan 2013 #50
Height-weight charts went out the window about 25 years ago. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #59
My biggest problem with the weight thing is I would be considered overweight Arcanetrance Jan 2013 #10
Thank you for posting this OccupyManny Jan 2013 #11
This article is BAD SCIENCE, please read on! mrsadm Jan 2013 #12
Can you read? eridani Jan 2013 #13
I'm 193 6'0 and get winded tying my shoes or doing stairs TrogL Jan 2013 #14
I weigh more than that at 5' 5" eridani Jan 2013 #20
I need to lay off the eggnog and take the dogs for a walk TrogL Jan 2013 #29
Your dogs - why do they hate going out as a group in the winter? Iris Jan 2013 #41
3 dachshunds and mixes TrogL Jan 2013 #74
sounds like a fun bunch! Iris Jan 2013 #79
TrogL Skittles Jan 2013 #61
WTF Skittles Jan 2013 #52
I've always been flexible--I think it's just a genetic thing. eridani Jan 2013 #53
well, count me as a non fat-phobe, eridani Skittles Jan 2013 #60
I don't get winded and I bet I am more fit than these people who are obsessed with appearance duffyduff Jan 2013 #76
I weigh far more than you and take a cycling class Iris Jan 2013 #39
Gives one pause to think, doesn't it? n/t 99Forever Jan 2013 #17
Dangerous assumption to jump to, attorney Campos. flvegan Jan 2013 #25
+ a really large number Systematic Chaos Jan 2013 #26
Agreed. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #27
Explain what is dangerous about the following statement eridani Jan 2013 #31
He's reporting the results of a meta-analysis of nearly 100 scientific studies with more than a HiPointDem Jan 2013 #51
this obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #66
I don't claim to be better than skinny people but they seem to think they are better than me liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #28
See, that's really the problem, IMHO. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #34
Exactly parallel nonsense is commonly spouted about LGBT people eridani Jan 2013 #37
Wow, you are right! LisaLynne Jan 2013 #69
Not to mention the multi-million dollar diet industry that might Iris Jan 2013 #40
Very true. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #70
Yes. It becomes an endless cycle. Iris Jan 2013 #71
Any link to the study, or another commentary on it, not behind the NYT paywall? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #32
Here eridani Jan 2013 #33
Thank you (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #35
Weight gain at menopause is such a universal phenomenon Warpy Jan 2013 #55
Fat cells make estrogen. Even after menopause. I think that's the connection. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #58
Not estradiol--estrone and other metabolites eridani Jan 2013 #62
Fat cells produce estradiol as well. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #63
Yes--estradiol is produced, but it doesn't get exported eridani Jan 2013 #65
some gets exported; and estrones can be converted to estradiol by the liver. I don't understand HiPointDem Jan 2013 #68
Estrone can act directly as well eridani Jan 2013 #72
I do weight-bearing exercise all the time, and I bet I am in better shape than most "thin" people. duffyduff Jan 2013 #77
The physiologist Paul Ernsberger once said that eridani Jan 2013 #78
They also give us an energy reserve to tap Warpy Jan 2013 #73
I don't fear fat... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #64
I agree. All the things you are focusing on are much healthier than focusing on weight eridani Jan 2013 #67
Paul Campos is one of the best observers of this issue in the country duffyduff Jan 2013 #75
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