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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 07:09 AM Jan 2013

The Senate filibuster could end today using a rare timing. [View all]

For six years, Democrats in the Senate have chafed at an unprecedented abuse of the filibuster by Republicans, who have used the practice to hold up nominees high and low and require a supermajority for virtually every bill. But now that they finally have an opportunity to end much of this delay and abuse, Democrats are instead considering only a few half-measures.

When the Senate returns on Tuesday, it will still technically be in the first legislative day of the session, which means only a simple majority is necessary to change the rules for the rest of the session.

With the support of 51 senators, the rules could be changed to require a “talking filibuster,” forcing those objecting to a bill to stand and explain their reasons, at length. The current practice of routinely requiring a 60-vote majority for a bill through a silent objection would end, breaking the logjam that has made the chamber a well of inefficiency and frustration.

Several younger senators, led by Jeff Merkley of Oregon and Tom Udall of New Mexico, say that if pressed, a majority of the Senate would support their plan for the talking filibuster. But older senators aren’t so sure, and have reportedly persuaded Harry Reid, the majority leader, to back off the idea. With the experience of having been in the minority themselves, these Democrats are fearful of losing a powerful tool should Republicans ever return to power in the chamber.

That would squander a moment for change. Supermajorities were never intended to be a routine legislative barrier; they should be reserved for the most momentous bills, and the best way to make that happen is to require that objectors work hard for their filibuster, assembling a like-minded coalition and being forthright about their concerns rather than hiding in the shadows or holding up a bill with an e-mailed note.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/22/opinion/a-chance-for-the-senate-to-fix-the-filibuster.html?smid=re-share

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Let's Get 'Er Done realFedUp Jan 2013 #1
Harry Reid needs to take the ball and run Ichingcarpenter Jan 2013 #3
Give 'em hell Harry! realFedUp Jan 2013 #7
If they fail to fix the filibuster because some Dems are afraid ... Scuba Jan 2013 #2
Right Cosmocat Jan 2013 #13
It's up to the Dems to set the tone now for the future. cartach Jan 2013 #31
I predict business as usual RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #4
Regarding the concerns about what happens should the Republicans gain a majority. drm604 Jan 2013 #5
Excellent point. klook Jan 2013 #12
"Democrats are instead considering only a few half-measures." - Is Reid going to repeat his error PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #6
Seems like he might... for no good reason... JCMach1 Jan 2013 #8
it's just a handful of Democrats preventing this; the leader not among them bigtree Jan 2013 #9
Like the case of Boehner in the House if you can't get sufficient votes for a bill you support PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #16
Not really riqster Jan 2013 #21
Do we know who they are? n/t Pryderi Jan 2013 #28
There will be a rules change that will do little MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #10
They are just too good!! RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #11
I'll believe it when it happens n2doc Jan 2013 #14
I am also fearful . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #15
But there's NO PROPOSAL to fully remove it. DryRain Jan 2013 #18
Quite right. another_liberal Jan 2013 #30
'No filibuster' isn't being discussed. The most radical proposal is to return to the talking one. nt PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #20
Hardly radical . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #29
Which senators are pushing no filibuster ? PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #33
Which Senators . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #36
They also need to stop anonymous holds. n/t woodsprite Jan 2013 #17
I think that's a part of the current proposal. DryRain Jan 2013 #19
They've already announced they'll filibuster the SecDef nomination. Bucky Jan 2013 #22
Republican wisdom . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #32
No, I don't think they announced that n/t Inuca Jan 2013 #34
I will be on the horn when phone lines open this morning. This MUST get done. nt silvershadow Jan 2013 #23
I will lose all respect for Sen. Reid if he doesn't take this opportunity. Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #24
The Filibuster SCVDem Jan 2013 #25
What's up with Harry Reid, anyway? ReRe Jan 2013 #26
But the Republicans have NOT ONCE USED THE FILIBUSTER!!! RevStPatrick Jan 2013 #27
The real reason Democrats don't want this UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #35
+10 Cleita Jan 2013 #39
+1000 a2liberal Jan 2013 #41
Agreed, this is Reid doing his Washington Generals act, now watch Dragonfli Jan 2013 #43
Bingo. nt awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #44
I get so damn tired of hearing the defeatist attitude by democrats bonniebgood Jan 2013 #37
If they don't change it, it will signal tha the Dems are still timid and weak. Kablooie Jan 2013 #38
Let's see if they actually deliver. Javaman Jan 2013 #40
Incremental change is best bucolic_frolic Jan 2013 #42
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