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polly7

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46. I did respond.

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:50 AM

Feb 2013

Wtf are you to decide someone doesn't 'care' about killing innocents? I think you've pretty much outed yourself as being one that DOESN'T care ... it's obvious that trying so hard to make this all about hating President Obama and not the drones and the policies for using them, is about as shallow and pathetic as it gets and transparent as hell, imo.

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Minimum of 140 children killed, and minimum 920 civilians killed overall. [View all] MadHound Feb 2013 OP

Sadly, I agree dreamnightwind Feb 2013 #1

I pretty much agree with everything you've written. cliffordu Feb 2013 #2

We are protecting nothing in Yemen, Mali, Somalia, etc. randome Feb 2013 #9

Of course we're flying the drones in order to protect our empire, MadHound Feb 2013 #11

You do realize there are civil wars in those places, right? randome Feb 2013 #12

So just because those countries are engaged in a civil war, MadHound Feb 2013 #15

My point is that we are not serving the ends of 'empire' by taking sides in a civil war. randome Feb 2013 #22

You obviously aren't paying attention, or keeping yourself fully informed MadHound Feb 2013 #67

And just imagine Mitt Romney or John McCain getting their hands on all of it! Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #3

Yeah, but he looks tough! kenny blankenship Feb 2013 #4

If a drone target is NOT legitimate it has ways of shutting the whole thing down Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #5

When you have to ProSense Feb 2013 #6

Speaking of distorting facts, you're doing it right. MadHound Feb 2013 #8

+920 green for victory Feb 2013 #17

^^^^^THIS!^^^^^^ 99Forever Feb 2013 #39

"^^^^^THIS!^^^^^^" ProSense Feb 2013 #61

We know them by what they do. 99Forever Feb 2013 #103

FYI: ProSense Feb 2013 #54

Cherry picking, you're doing it right, n/t MadHound Feb 2013 #73

You can't cite the numbers in your OP because they're bullshit. n/t ProSense Feb 2013 #74

WHOOMP, there it is! MadHound Feb 2013 #78

Where? Did you post the location of the numbers you cited? ProSense Feb 2013 #87

Don't you know that by requesting actual facts, you've obviously lost your "moral compass"??.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #95

Except I provide the link to the actual facts in my OP, MadHound Feb 2013 #131

And you try to be as insulting as possible to posters who don't agree with you..... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #132

Hard to be polite to a person who has repeated insulted me, MadHound Feb 2013 #137

My advice to you is to re-read a few dozen of your recent posts.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #138

Mmm-hmmm, MadHound Feb 2013 #139

LOL. None of what I've said to you could possibly be misconstrued as being insulting.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #140

For too many, they start with the wrong question. morningfog Feb 2013 #113

Good effort, but the person to whom you are responding isnt interested in the truth stevenleser Feb 2013 #25

How do you know who cares about who dies?? polly7 Feb 2013 #30

But did we start 173 threads on the subject of, say, an accidental shooting of civilians with a gun? randome Feb 2013 #33

They make killing too easy. polly7 Feb 2013 #35

We are not at war with Pakistan. randome Feb 2013 #52

lmao. nt. polly7 Feb 2013 #59

part of it for me... druidity33 Feb 2013 #145

I hear you. I sure as hell don't want anyone innocent to die. For any reason. randome Feb 2013 #148

I know because every issue posted about by the OP is focused the same way stevenleser Feb 2013 #36

You don't 'know' sh*. nt. polly7 Feb 2013 #37

Yep, that's what I thought. You have nothing to say in response. nt stevenleser Feb 2013 #38

I did respond. polly7 Feb 2013 #46

Now we are getting somewhere. You think the majority of DUers and Democrats are bad people stevenleser Feb 2013 #50

No, I'm not misguided enough to believe 'anyone' who disagrees with me on polly7 Feb 2013 #57

The OP has a track record that is well known, and there for anyone to check. stevenleser Feb 2013 #64

you nailed it steven dionysus Feb 2013 #116

Bingo. Some folks on DU are so blinded by their hatred of the President... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #133

Ahhh yes... 99Forever Feb 2013 #41

LOL, simple recourse, right? Let's analyze the OPs. Are you interested? stevenleser Feb 2013 #43

Funny that. 99Forever Feb 2013 #47

That's exactly what I thought. You know I am right and that's why you dare not go that route stevenleser Feb 2013 #48

Wow! 99Forever Feb 2013 #101

The OP admitted I am right. What say you now? stevenleser Feb 2013 #106

Please don't parse and paraphrase my response to fit your needs, MadHound Feb 2013 #127

Give it up MadHound. SL, like many others, need to make themselves feel better. Dawgs Feb 2013 #146

LOL -You've admitted that 95% or more of your OPs here are anti-Obama. That is bias, pure and simple stevenleser Feb 2013 #149

No, geez, do I have to explain it to you like you are a two year old child? MadHound Feb 2013 #151

So what? RC Feb 2013 #144

You're right, I focus on issues, not people. MadHound Feb 2013 #55

So, take me up on my challenge. I think that 95% or more of your OPs where Obama or the admin are stevenleser Feb 2013 #60

You're probably right, MadHound Feb 2013 #65

I haven't changed my positions on a single issue since Obama took office stevenleser Feb 2013 #68

So our disagreement is over the issues, MadHound Feb 2013 #77

I do not agree that our disagreement is over the issues. I think you have another agenda. stevenleser Feb 2013 #93

Well, I would say we would have to disagree about that as well, MadHound Feb 2013 #123

Thank You unapatriciated Feb 2013 #136

Thanks again MadHound. Dawgs Feb 2013 #147

That's an ad hominem attack and a really shitty insinuation. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #120

Irony....look it up. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #134

K&R nt. polly7 Feb 2013 #7

I don't understand why this needs to be repeated. randome Feb 2013 #10

Actually, there probably would be less civilian deaths. MadHound Feb 2013 #14

That's ridiculous Recursion Feb 2013 #27

Plus many of these areas are surrounded by desert. randome Feb 2013 #34

Perhaps we should consult with Mossad, MadHound Feb 2013 #63

Israeli assassinations seem to be more the car bombing type. randome Feb 2013 #70

Wow, and you accuse me of watching too many movies, MadHound Feb 2013 #81

I never claimed to be in possession of superior knowledge. randome Feb 2013 #85

There are plenty of books and articles out there available to the ordinary person, MadHound Feb 2013 #86

Or Wikipedia. randome Feb 2013 #91

OMG, now you are resorting to Wikipedia, MadHound Feb 2013 #121

Umm, you don't send in a battalion to carry out assassinations, MadHound Feb 2013 #49

It needs to be repeated because so many continue to believe it's not a war crime. Octafish Feb 2013 #29

I don't know about that bighart Feb 2013 #96

I posted this conundrum in a couple of other places on this thread. randome Feb 2013 #98

And again and again you've been told that Pakistan condemns these drone attacks on their soil, MadHound Feb 2013 #126

In other words, you are admitting that we are violating those nations' soveignty. MadHound Feb 2013 #125

I, like I suspect you, will side with the UN and the ACLU on this bighart Feb 2013 #130

Using this standard every President in the 20th century is a mass murderer baldguy Feb 2013 #13

Umm, where are you getting that from? MadHound Feb 2013 #16

No, they broke domestic and international law differently. baldguy Feb 2013 #18

Well, first of all I'd like to see the evidence that all Presidents are so guilty, MadHound Feb 2013 #19

Are you ready to condemn Clinton for bombing Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, and Serbia? baldguy Feb 2013 #20

Umm, I have condemned those actions, MadHound Feb 2013 #21

Targeted drones kill far fewer non-combatants than other methods of attack. baldguy Feb 2013 #23

Very well said. nt stevenleser Feb 2013 #26

How many people from other countries are over here in NA killing Americans? polly7 Feb 2013 #28

"How many people from other countries are over here in NA killing Americans?"..... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #40

+100. Some DU posters seem to have forgotten those salient facts in their rush.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #31

Thats a load of crap. The Link Feb 2013 #32

Name one that doesn't involve putting US troops in harm's way, or uses weapons.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #42

Ah, there is the caveat for you drone lovers. The Link Feb 2013 #44

Answer the question please, and please try to skip the labels and name-calling. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #45

They can't. There is no response to that. They prefer to go on calling the President, the stevenleser Feb 2013 #53

Why do people who support the killing of non-combatants... The Link Feb 2013 #62

Why can't you answer my question? nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #71

You answered it yourself. nt. The Link Feb 2013 #75

Just to be completely clear on this issue, here is your original statement:.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #82

Just to be clear, you asked a question and tried to limit the answers The Link Feb 2013 #84

You made the claim that there were other methods that could be used besides drone attacks.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #90

You realize people can read your question, right? The Link Feb 2013 #97

Answer the question, please. What other alternative do you believe we can use.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #104

So you are restating your question without leading the answer now? The Link Feb 2013 #105

Just answer the question and I'll stop asking it. See how simple that is? nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #135

So, MadHound Feb 2013 #51

Sure. Civilian deaths due to 'friendly fire' NEVER occurred before the invention of drones. randome Feb 2013 #76

I don't think he wanted him to die. The Link Feb 2013 #80

Only a Commander-In-Chief can make these kind of calculations. randome Feb 2013 #100

That is the difference between a live assassin and a drone, MadHound Feb 2013 #83

You see the picture in the link you posted, right? randome Feb 2013 #88

"Civilian deaths" and "friendly fire" are not the same thing. DirkGently Feb 2013 #119

Thank you for this excellent post - nt dreamnightwind Feb 2013 #153

the bombing of Serbia was the first PNAC war green for victory Feb 2013 #56

"Some of us don't equate terrorists to ordinary Americans." The Link Feb 2013 #24

I'm going to point out that every one of those victims was a civilian, PDJane Feb 2013 #58

How do you declare war against a mountainous region? randome Feb 2013 #66

I suggest you read the NYU/SU study fully and completely, MadHound Feb 2013 #69

It's not a scenario. It's true. randome Feb 2013 #72

Well, the number of dead innocents, the amount of destruction left behind, belies your assertion. MadHound Feb 2013 #89

The US relationship with Pakistan has always been an up-and-down affair. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #79

Exactly what I was told on another board by supporters of the Iraq invasion ... polly7 Feb 2013 #94

The other board must be FR, because I've never seen anything like that on DU.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #99

No, it wasn't FR. I've never posted at FR. It was a crime board, actually. nt. polly7 Feb 2013 #102

I have never blindly supported any politician LWolf Feb 2013 #92

If it were American kids would drones be 'legal, ethical and wise'? whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #107

That's why the Commander-In-Chief is the one to make those calls. randome Feb 2013 #108

Right whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #109

No. I think Bush demonstrated he had no moral center. randome Feb 2013 #111

Why don't you folks understand that these powers won't be limited to Saint Obama? whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #112

I think most of us agree there need to be formal reviews of targeted killings. randome Feb 2013 #114

Instead of "formal reviews", which can easily turn into rubber stamps, MadHound Feb 2013 #129

Bush didn't have a moral center, MadHound Feb 2013 #128

No, that is why are judiciary system needs to make those calls, MadHound Feb 2013 #122

Yeh, so what, what's your point? Most of those children who were killed or wounded were just Zorra Feb 2013 #110

You Rawk! whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #115

Thanks. Looks like you were thinking the Zorra Feb 2013 #118

+1000 n/t Catherina Feb 2013 #152

Jesus Christ! Deep13 Feb 2013 #117

Just as 'military age males' were locked in and given kill status in Fallujah. polly7 Feb 2013 #124

Drone murder is now OK among large chunks of DU Doctor_J Feb 2013 #141

So how many souls does the country have? randome Feb 2013 #142

That was a major hit Doctor_J Feb 2013 #143

knr Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #150