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In reply to the discussion: Eve Ensler on the passivity of men [View all]Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)There is an echo of these threads, going back over 40 yrs. (the time when modern women's rights took to the streets). There was a time in modern feminism when men were told to shut the fuck up when it came to group decision-making, in favor of "concensus-building." A time when men were told to quit characterizing/analyzing women, in favor of self-determination (though women had no problem returning the favor, out of equity I suppose). A time when men were told they may hold up the end of the ladder, but to stay out of the contractor's trailer.
Many men did step aside in favor of some kind of passivity. Now, the game is different, and men are expected to pose while a new suit of armor is fitted.
And any "reasonable discussion" that doesn't follow the new narrative is met with rather standard pigeon-holeing responses that boil down to:
"See? You are the problem."