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Yo_Mama

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46. Really? Are you sure?

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 11:39 AM

Jan 2012

Who's starting things here?
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And now the battle lines form:
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The protesters came armed for battle:
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Is it really appropriate to trash city hall?
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So anything OWS does is right and everything police do is wrong [View all] nobodyspecial Jan 2012 OP

Nope, you were correct the first time. RoccoR5955 Jan 2012 #1

The idea that 100% of the 99% are peaceful protestors wtmusic Jan 2012 #3

Having been a witness to more than one OWS event nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #91

Neat little rationalization you got going there. randome Jan 2012 #4

No true OWSer... JSnuffy Jan 2012 #14

Well, isn't that convenient nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #18

I think you missed my sarcasm... JSnuffy Jan 2012 #30

I've seriously had people claim a teenage girl only pretended to be raped at an OWS camp... TheWraith Jan 2012 #39

And no "true cop" is a fascist pig MNBrewer Jan 2012 #37

Thanks for the well thought out, rationed and reasonable response... JSnuffy Jan 2012 #79

It's exactly as well-reasoned as your comment. MNBrewer Jan 2012 #106

Congratulations... JSnuffy Jan 2012 #107

Glad you see the error of your ways MNBrewer Jan 2012 #108

Prepare to be obliterated! randome Jan 2012 #2

Are you saying rational, logical thinking nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #6

No, I'm... randome Jan 2012 #9

You're kidding, right??? n/t greytdemocrat Jan 2012 #10

Actually, no. tabasco Jan 2012 #94

You got that right! Rex Feb 2012 #132

No the police are right about 30% of the time. Logical Jan 2012 #5

Are they right when they prevent people from taking over private property? nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #7

Are you trying to say the police are harassed by citizens more than they harass citizens? Logical Jan 2012 #11

I am asking about two specific events that happened last night nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #21

I doubt you and I agree on police/citizen interactions much. Agree to disagree. Logical Jan 2012 #23

You're probably right nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #25

OK, I would bet 99% of the police have abused their power.... Logical Jan 2012 #28

I just said some need to be taken off the force nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #34

Yes, so do citizens. Being in a risky job does not mean you can harass people. Logical Jan 2012 #43

I agree nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #48

Yeah, cops do get shot at and/or killed every year......... socialist_n_TN Jan 2012 #45

Spot on! Mosaic Jan 2012 #52

They are not right to protect abandoned properties. Police should switch sides and join the protest. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #22

Right to assemble nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #35

They do have a right to assemble. The police should be protecting them instead of shooting them. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #51

Sure. All the cops should simply quit their jobs. randome Jan 2012 #53

Not quit their jobs...just do the right thing. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #64

Um, when a cop refuses a direct order from his superior nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #66

No, that is not the same as quitting. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #74

You live in a different world than I do nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #82

nope limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #89

I don't think what is going on is sustainable nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Jan 2012 #97

Oh, sure they are nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #100

The right to assemble is protected, and I don't think that's in jeopardy. JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #44

Mostly in agreement... limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #60

Somewhere there's a Samual Gompers waiting to give direction to OWS. JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #88

Have you actually gone to any of the local occupies? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #92

No, and I'm sure you know alot more about it than I do. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #98

I report, but for example the last action here in san diego nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #103

Abandoned property goes to the state Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #95

you can't blame innocent victims hit by rubber bullets and dragged by the hair bigtree Jan 2012 #8

Blame the police for the brutality, absolutely. randome Jan 2012 #12

Thus the problem obliviously Jan 2012 #15

I don't remember every sit-in (in my time) being met with such violent force bigtree Jan 2012 #20

It wasn't a sit-in! randome Jan 2012 #29

It's a typical squatting protest using a vacant building. It most certainly is akin to a sit-in bigtree Jan 2012 #31

Exactly. The police response as usual was asymmetrical and Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2012 #33

Really? Are you sure? Yo_Mama Jan 2012 #46

Oh, those are only provacateurs nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #50

that poor fence bigtree Jan 2012 #55

They were defending the building Yo_Mama Jan 2012 #65

they have a perfect right to practice civil disobedience bigtree Jan 2012 #68

I think you need to tlook up the definition of "sit in" Hint: It's not a sit out. n/t Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2012 #77

Or attempting to incite violence Yo_Mama Jan 2012 #40

The Police Lawlbringer Jan 2012 #13

'Romanticize'. randome Jan 2012 #27

The OPD is not under Federal supervision because it's full of nice people EFerrari Jan 2012 #57

No not everything protesters do is right and not everything cops do is wrong. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #16

who said? notadmblnd Jan 2012 #17

Apparently so. OWS- all good. Police & govt - all bad. Result = not the truth. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #19

try harder next time fascisthunter Jan 2012 #26

Watch the livestream and see. snot Jan 2012 #24

Personally, I think they're going about the movement in the wrong way JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #32

I recommend you go down to your local occupation and FIND OUT nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #93

I've been to the OWS in Youngstown. JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #99

Well these guys so far, had managed to get the ILWU nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #104

Listen, if your world view is so broad that you can't accept a simple black and white leeroysphitz Jan 2012 #36

That may just be the very best post I've EVER seen here. nt Codeine Jan 2012 #38

Um, the world isn't black and white. randome Jan 2012 #41

Ya think? nt Codeine Jan 2012 #49

+1. That is hilarious and accurate. nt TheWraith Jan 2012 #42

Let's hope not Yo_Mama Jan 2012 #47

+1 Mz Pip Jan 2012 #70

Your OP doesn't have a middle for truth, or anything else to reside. Have you noticed? Mind if I ... T S Justly Jan 2012 #54

Thank you for your concern. aquart Jan 2012 #56

Yes, I'm a concern troll nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #58

Yep U4ikLefty Feb 2012 #129

You have to understand that either (a) the value system of many leftists has Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #59

That hasn't happened for a few days now nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #62

Of course you do. We know from DU that all incidences of skull cracking Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #63

It helps if we equalize and balance-out our perspective of every issue of concern bigtree Jan 2012 #67

And like clockwork...nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #69

I get it. Your fealty to your one opinion and viewpoint isn't binary thinking at all bigtree Jan 2012 #72

My fealty isn't swayed by three or four photographs.nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #73

dispute the account posted here then. You're just talking out of your own bigtree Jan 2012 #75

The value systems of many all along the spectrum is arrested, often far further back than 10th grade TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #87

That's black and white, absolutist thinking Stinky The Clown Jan 2012 #61

not everything done under the auspices of the Civil Rights Movement was right and not every single Douglas Carpenter Jan 2012 #71

Surely you can't be serious... Rex Jan 2012 #76

I am serious and don't call me Shirley. Son of Gob Jan 2012 #78

Good stuff! Rex Jan 2012 #80

Economic justice is a civil right and no less important to the integrity of our Union. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #84

I agree nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #102

That has little to do with the OP, but thanks anyway for Rex Jan 2012 #113

Which is a big part of why your response was replied to with that post rather than the OP. TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #128

Nonsense. Rex Feb 2012 #131

We're struggling against the global/national tyranny of the Banksters/1%. Zorra Jan 2012 #81

No, I don't nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #83

That logic can be applied almost universally. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #85

Yeah. I really don't know exactly what happened there re Zorra Jan 2012 #96

binary thinking and clearly a strawman. where's the "unrec" when you need it, dammit. inna Jan 2012 #86

OWS needs to disavow yesterday's protest, imo. gulliver Jan 2012 #101

That's the thing about an open decentralized movement RZM Jan 2012 #105

Pretty Much - The Pepper Spraying Of Students Taints All Police Forces Moving Forward cantbeserious Jan 2012 #109

Where is the logic in that? nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #110

To Your Riposte We Will Never Agree - Best Let The Disagreement Rest cantbeserious Jan 2012 #111

Nope, no chance whatsoever Remember Me Jan 2012 #112

Total flame bait. mistertrickster Jan 2012 #114

+1000 Javaman Jan 2012 #124

Take for instance, the Rape of Nanking . . . mistertrickster Jan 2012 #115

Nowhere NEAR the middle. Iggo Jan 2012 #118

This OP could be the perfect example of a strawman. nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #116

Yep. Iggo Jan 2012 #117

I hate this thinking MFrohike Jan 2012 #119

I like the way you speak. Bohunk68 Jan 2012 #121

Difficult to say Prophet 451 Jan 2012 #120

Anything Wall Street and their cronies do is right malaise Jan 2012 #122

Who said that? nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #125

Not in the middle. mmonk Jan 2012 #123

Bookmarking as a taxonomical guide whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #126

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. LanternWaste Jan 2012 #127

Your tense is wrong. ClassWarrior Feb 2012 #130