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liberal_at_heart

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19. this is why mentally ill people are constantly killed

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 03:49 PM

Feb 2013

I don't know anything about this particular case but many mentally ill suspects don't do what they are told by police. There has to be a better way to apprehend these people without killing them with no evidence that they are armed.

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Fugitive who stabbed officer fatally shot after manhunt in Texas [View all] The Straight Story Feb 2013 OP

They had every right to shoot him! Cooley Hurd Feb 2013 #1

In Texas, most everything is executable... loudsue Feb 2013 #2

No. Light House Feb 2013 #3

He didn't show his hands? Cooley Hurd Feb 2013 #4

When officers approached him, Light House Feb 2013 #5

And so they decided he was armed without evidence intaglio Feb 2013 #7

Wow, you should be a cop with that attitude. nobodyspecial Feb 2013 #10

So officers should kill on the slightest suspicion that a suspect is armed? intaglio Feb 2013 #12

There will be a set of rules treestar Feb 2013 #14

So someone who does not show his or her hands can, automatically, be shot intaglio Feb 2013 #15

What else is there to do? treestar Feb 2013 #60

As pointed out in another part of this thread intaglio Feb 2013 #71

Did you forget about the part where Light House Feb 2013 #17

So the act of assaulting a police officer denies due process? intaglio Feb 2013 #21

I gotta ask, Light House Feb 2013 #23

Crickets... because the OP obviously COLGATE4 Feb 2013 #35

I think this person put me on ignore Light House Feb 2013 #37

Well I certainly won't ignore you Kingofalldems Feb 2013 #39

Ok. Light House Feb 2013 #41

I would suggest that being put on ignore COLGATE4 Feb 2013 #51

I agree. Light House Feb 2013 #58

Apparently, to some the only time the police can actively respond to a CAG Feb 2013 #27

It would appear so. Light House Feb 2013 #29

day after day for 30 years. I'm glad I don't have that pressure. CAG Feb 2013 #31

K&R. Light House Feb 2013 #33

this is why mentally ill people are constantly killed liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #19

I couldn't agree more. Light House Feb 2013 #20

There is. It's called a taffy gun. Not used because... TheMadMonk Feb 2013 #34

You lose the benefit of the doubt Confusious Feb 2013 #87

+100000 Light House Feb 2013 #89

Seems some around here either live in a glass tower, Confusious Feb 2013 #90

Is this the kind of police corruption everyone is so furious about? dkf Feb 2013 #6

OK, the action of the officers was not "corruption" intaglio Feb 2013 #8

Gee good thing Dorner killed himself or we would have had a death squad in SB too. dkf Feb 2013 #9

So you assume that Dorner did not kill himself? intaglio Feb 2013 #11

No I assume he did kill himself. dkf Feb 2013 #13

Accepting that then you have to look at your assumptions intaglio Feb 2013 #16

He refused to obey a lawful order, Light House Feb 2013 #18

So disobeying a lawful order is a capital crime intaglio Feb 2013 #22

Ever thought of not insulting people? Light House Feb 2013 #24

So that's a "yes" intaglio Feb 2013 #25

I do support due process, but the violent criminal has to want due process by surrendering. Light House Feb 2013 #26

Can you cite the case you are relying on? jberryhill Feb 2013 #28

I dare say that this person is going on emotions Light House Feb 2013 #30

Going on emotions you say? Kingofalldems Feb 2013 #53

Thank you very much. Light House Feb 2013 #59

So you know what I'm talking about Kingofalldems Feb 2013 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author Light House Feb 2013 #69

Where did I threaten you? Kingofalldems Feb 2013 #70

Ok. Light House Feb 2013 #72

Killing without evidence - except that the COLGATE4 Feb 2013 #36

Commiting a crime does not debar you from your day in court intaglio Feb 2013 #40

Along with having no background in police procedure COLGATE4 Feb 2013 #45

Or perhaps the escapee was just plain stupid. Thinking... TheMadMonk Feb 2013 #38

Police proceedure intaglio Feb 2013 #42

You know nothing about police procedures Light House Feb 2013 #43

Do you? intaglio Feb 2013 #47

I VERY obviously have more education on police procedures than you do. Light House Feb 2013 #55

You keep ignoring the fact that none of what you say denies a person right to due process intaglio Feb 2013 #61

I think I detect the problem with your opinion on this shooting stevenleser Feb 2013 #86

Great post. Light House Feb 2013 #91

Taser and bean bags require a clear shot. TheMadMonk Feb 2013 #92

Read your own post and the contradictions intaglio Feb 2013 #93

No. I am saying that in the face of several armed police... TheMadMonk Feb 2013 #94

Escaped Felon Confusious Feb 2013 #88

Sticks and stones can get your ass killed if you're a recent cop killer geek tragedy Feb 2013 #32

Just imagine for a second that the person apprehended was not the criminal intaglio Feb 2013 #44

There's always going to be a tension in that sort of situation. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #46

Important words intaglio Feb 2013 #50

Last resort meaning all other reasonable options having been exhausted. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #52

Yup - should we "get a room"? n/t intaglio Feb 2013 #57

Just imagine for a second that the police decided COLGATE4 Feb 2013 #48

Just imagine that they had used other, approved proceedures intaglio Feb 2013 #64

How do you know they didn't try other methods? Light House Feb 2013 #68

Because I believe the police account of the incident intaglio Feb 2013 #73

Maybe the news just didn't mention it. Light House Feb 2013 #75

Yup, because what was described was an extra-judicial killing intaglio Feb 2013 #76

Please, Light House Feb 2013 #78

Do tell, and how is your master post on police procedure coming? intaglio Feb 2013 #80

Sorry, Light House Feb 2013 #81

Post 82 applies intaglio Feb 2013 #83

Well, Light House Feb 2013 #85

Imagine if they had shot the gun COLGATE4 Feb 2013 #95

Stop pretending you don't know what I mean intaglio Feb 2013 #96

You're really reaching now. Light House Feb 2013 #49

So you are a cop? Kingofalldems Feb 2013 #54

Why? Light House Feb 2013 #62

Because you are commenting on posters knowledge of Kingofalldems Feb 2013 #66

Yes I am, Light House Feb 2013 #77

You live in a fantasy world intaglio Feb 2013 #56

The more you keep talking, Light House Feb 2013 #65

OK, so educate me intaglio Feb 2013 #74

No thanks. Light House Feb 2013 #79

You make it too easy intaglio Feb 2013 #82

You have no idea what my education or occupation was. Light House Feb 2013 #84

Fortunately, they did not use a drone. quaker bill Feb 2013 #63