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In reply to the discussion: If you are the member of a privileged group AND call yourself progressive [View all]intaglio
(8,170 posts)173. Who said it was roses and beer?
Being a feudal overlord was not all roses and beer but it was a far better life than the lives of the serfs, cottars and villeins
Where did I say anywhere that you are lying? Do you have any further words to put in my mouth? Read what was written not what you want to see.
You are not "special" because you intervened but you are an ethically bankrupt fool if you intervened because of a misplaced desire to prove yourself a man by the fact of your intervention.
I then wrote about the real privileges that men do enjoy as opposed to your fantasy of dangerous privilege and in that you read an accusation, funny how that goes; perhaps at the back of your mind you do not see these as privileges but as rights or irrevocable natural law.
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If you are the member of a privileged group AND call yourself progressive [View all]
Matariki
Feb 2013
OP
Not being able to argue better than everyone else is not the same as being wrong.
merrily
Feb 2013
#54
In discussions downthread, I think the OP and I are probably pretty close in our opinion
Jeff In Milwaukee
Feb 2013
#270
wtf? massive fail on the writing analysis. the poster writes just fine, and the sentence has
HiPointDem
Feb 2013
#259
It's completely clear that the poster was paraphrasing your argument (sarcastically), and that
HiPointDem
Feb 2013
#263
Can you give an example of what you are talking about because I have no idea from
Maraya1969
Feb 2013
#126
I actually was thinking you had another idea besides hating on the poor or the transgendered
Maraya1969
Feb 2013
#131
You obviously did not read the article. That makes sense. But don't try to blame your
Maraya1969
Feb 2013
#150
So did you lecture him about the error of his ways? If not, you are proving the point.
Squinch
Feb 2013
#134
Just because a perception is incorrect doesn't make it irrational though.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#174
it was such a poor attempt at satire it was indisinguishable from frat boy "humor"
bettyellen
Feb 2013
#225
No, that's ok. Everyone has their unique taste in movies. I saw "ted" in the theater because...
Fla Dem
Feb 2013
#175
" It's a way to exclude someone who you think has it better than you" Better? Absolutely not.
merrily
Feb 2013
#52
Has there ever been a law on the books that anyone put themselves in harm's way?
Jamastiene
Feb 2013
#86
why pretend to be noble and seethe in resentment and claim special privileges for it?
bettyellen
Feb 2013
#92
because clearly culture is all codified in laws and something must be 'one's job' or it needn't be
HiPointDem
Feb 2013
#265
well someone sold you a bill of goods, you don't have a heavier burden than anyone on earth
bettyellen
Feb 2013
#77
\you make *your choices* sound like a huge burden- yet say you are comfortable
bettyellen
Feb 2013
#88
So do I know as much as you do about the guilt feelings the patriarchy instills in men, or
Squinch
Feb 2013
#140
Even when privilege is pointed out there are those here who ignore or dismiss it
Major Nikon
Feb 2013
#256
someone who doesn't have to believe in a god in order to get through the daily routine of life?
snooper2
Feb 2013
#36
A privilege is ANYTHING that is taken by means of ANY advantage & not through any consensual
patrice
Feb 2013
#113
I'm not ignoring you - I will respond to your post later as my day is turning out to be hectic.
cliffordu
Feb 2013
#152
It's like fish thinking there's something wrong with other creatures drowning in water
Matariki
Feb 2013
#24
Being more privileged than someone else is not the same as being unable to listen or emphathize.
merrily
Feb 2013
#55
It is possible to be part of a privileged group while being part of a non-privileged group.
ChaoticTrilby
Feb 2013
#31
You just lumped all white people, all straight people, and all men together
Confusious
Feb 2013
#183
Okay, good. I was just a little uncertain because most of the Tumblr meme focused on hypocrisy.
ChaoticTrilby
Feb 2013
#245
I wasn't sure when those pictures were taken, so I was mostly speaking in a more modern context.
ChaoticTrilby
Feb 2013
#112
It's my pleasure. I appreciate your efforts to educate. And judging by the poster you are
Number23
Feb 2013
#235
Segregation and racial discrimination would have precluded the vast majority of blacks from attendin
Number23
Feb 2013
#198
The fact that you are working so hard to condemn people who are concerned about social justice
Number23
Feb 2013
#218
Thanks, Jack. I tried, you know. I edited, but the sentiment most certainly remains
Number23
Feb 2013
#220
Why do some people act like pointing out societal priviledge is just a ploy to make them feel guilty
Matariki
Feb 2013
#33
Yes! I tried to sketch the rational basis for why respect is absolutely essential to this
patrice
Feb 2013
#114
I would think that's part of being an asshole, not part of being a privileged Democrat.
merrily
Feb 2013
#59
Well, yeah, they're a winner for what they've done, not the advantages they have! Nt
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#67
I tried to break down some of the problems in recognizing this in my post #113 above.
patrice
Feb 2013
#117
There is so much that is about process, how to_____ ,everything else can be affected by that. nt
patrice
Feb 2013
#157
It is also important for the "disinfranchised" AND progressive to remember...
Behind the Aegis
Feb 2013
#98
"If more people would focus on the issue versus those pointing it out, we might get somewhere."
redqueen
Feb 2013
#165
I cannot see one instance in the OP where who is privileged and who is not is pointed out.
KitSileya
Feb 2013
#209
yes, and their lives are no doubt harder than yours as well. now what? with that revelation
HiPointDem
Feb 2013
#264
kind of circular. accepting your privilege leads to respect when other people tell you they're
HiPointDem
Feb 2013
#273
if people don't know better than to call each other racists and bitches, i doubt telling them
HiPointDem
Feb 2013
#275
Notice the members of privileged groups in this very thread who took offense with your OP...
YoungDemCA
Feb 2013
#240
Okay, but what if you've listened to the opinion, and considered it, and thought about it.
BlueCheese
Feb 2013
#250