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Cal Carpenter

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11. Yes, and as demonstrated at the link

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:01 PM

Mar 2013

The subsidies will make sure that the premium and out-of-pocket expenditures is no higher than $7,600 for a family of 3 making $40,000 (roughly 200% of FPL).

This is a simple fact, based on objective info available at that link. It is NOT inaccurate no matter how many times you repeat it. And it is still prohibitively high for many people.

You can keep denying it, but it is a fact. There are millions who will not have access to affordable health care despite the subsidies.

ETA: Changed it to family of 3 after reviewing 2013 FPL. I think I had the numbers from 2012 or something before, sorry. But as I said before, my math wasn't exact. Once again, my point still stands.

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HHS finalizes rule guaranteeing 100 percent funding for new Medicaid beneficiaries [View all] ProSense Mar 2013 OP

Thanks for a post full of facts. Marking it with a reply now. freshwest Mar 2013 #1

Thanks. ProSense Mar 2013 #2

Shall I cross post this to the BOG? freshwest Mar 2013 #9

Please do. Thanks. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #10

Done, with the addition of a picture: freshwest Mar 2013 #30

Thanks. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #31

However, those of us who are in the 18K to 30K range truedelphi Mar 2013 #3

+1 Cal Carpenter Mar 2013 #4

Not ProSense Mar 2013 #5

Here's another example Cal Carpenter Mar 2013 #7

You're posting ProSense Mar 2013 #8

Yes, and as demonstrated at the link Cal Carpenter Mar 2013 #11

You are ProSense Mar 2013 #14

Are you denying that there are millions who will not have access to affordable care Cal Carpenter Mar 2013 #15

Wait ProSense Mar 2013 #18

Aren't those subsidies in the form of tax credits? magellan Mar 2013 #43

I don't ProSense Mar 2013 #44

So the subsidies are applied at the time of purchase? magellan Mar 2013 #46

You might find this document useful... PoliticAverse Apr 2013 #63

Thanks for that! magellan Apr 2013 #64

Actually, now that I have done all the math it's worse than I thought Cal Carpenter Mar 2013 #13

You changed it ProSense Mar 2013 #16

Yes, and I explained why in my edit Cal Carpenter Mar 2013 #17

So ProSense Mar 2013 #19

Yes Cal Carpenter Mar 2013 #20

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Just so you know Cal Carpenter Mar 2013 #45

Thanks for your update. truedelphi Mar 2013 #48

CNS news? Really? ProSense Mar 2013 #49

So caring about the vets issues is a RW issue now? truedelphi Mar 2013 #51

Well, ProSense Mar 2013 #52

YOu keep ProSense Mar 2013 #50

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Many poor and vulnerable people and their caregivers rejoice at this news. freshwest Mar 2013 #22

I'm pretty poor, so I'm right there with them! babylonsister Mar 2013 #23

I'm not yet Medicaid poor, but I'm on the verge. He's helping us all out here. freshwest Mar 2013 #26

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And he still does. Many Democratic leaders and voters lives were threatened, as well. freshwest Mar 2013 #57

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Those Koch dollars are hard at work! freshwest Mar 2013 #59

Yup! n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #61

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This should help the states. jwirr Mar 2013 #25

And people you and I know, jwirr. Also the poor and elderly. Obama hasn't forgotten them. freshwest Mar 2013 #29

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The federal government ProSense Mar 2013 #55

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