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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. Imagine
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 10:59 PM
Feb 2012
There are two basic arguments against social welfare/safety net programs. The first is that it creates less economic incentive to work because one starts to lose their benefits once they find employment....This basic concept would replace all social safety net programs, including welfare, food stamps, unemployment and other non nonmedical programs. The benefits would be twofold. One, it is efficiency. The government isn't trying to control the money or regulate it.

...more RW arguments.

To Beat Back Poverty, Pay the Poor

By TINA ROSENBERG

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Today, however, Brazil’s level of economic inequality is dropping at a faster rate than that of almost any other country. Between 2003 and 2009, the income of poor Brazilians has grown seven times as much as the income of rich Brazilians. Poverty has fallen during that time from 22 percent of the population to 7 percent.

Contrast this with the United States, where from 1980 to 2005, more than four-fifths of the increase in Americans’ income went to the top 1 percent of earners. (see this great series in Slate by Timothy Noah on American inequality) Productivity among low and middle-income American workers increased, but their incomes did not. If current trends continue, the United States may soon be more unequal than Brazil.

Several factors contribute to Brazil’s astounding feat. But a major part of Brazil’s achievement is due to a single social program that is now transforming how countries all over the world help their poor.

The program, called Bolsa Familia (Family Grant) in Brazil, goes by different names in different places. In Mexico, where it first began on a national scale and has been equally successful at reducing poverty, it is Oportunidades. The generic term for the program is conditional cash transfers. The idea is to give regular payments to poor families, in the form of cash or electronic transfers into their bank accounts, if they meet certain requirements. The requirements vary, but many countries employ those used by Mexico: families must keep their children in school and go for regular medical checkups, and mom must attend workshops on subjects like nutrition or disease prevention. The payments almost always go to women, as they are the most likely to spend the money on their families. The elegant idea behind conditional cash transfers is to combat poverty today while breaking the cycle of poverty for tomorrow.

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http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/03/to-beat-back-poverty-pay-the-poor/


More suggested reading: Jared Berstein: Inequality, the Middle Class, and Growth
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002251130


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A modest suggestion... Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #1
Hear Hear, Sir... The Magistrate Feb 2012 #3
Why would that remedy be preferred? Art_from_Ark Feb 2012 #48
The French Revolution sucked for all involved.. BrentWil Feb 2012 #4
Yes, you're right, and I would never actually advocate a violent revolution. Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #21
No, I haven't... BrentWil Feb 2012 #26
Here from Amazon (I'm trying to make everyone be aware of this book) Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #34
THanks.. BrentWil Feb 2012 #50
The poor are going to 'die in the snow' as it is. Zalatix Feb 2012 #38
Don't think you can compare what is going on now to the march on Moscow.. BrentWil Feb 2012 #43
The French Solution Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #8
That is barbaric! Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2012 #12
LOL!!! Zalatix Feb 2012 #44
I would suggest the reverse income tax... an idea from Friedman might work BrentWil Feb 2012 #2
Imagine ProSense Feb 2012 #9
Paul Krugman is a Conservative? BrentWil Feb 2012 #14
? ProSense Feb 2012 #16
Just read the top quote. BrentWil Feb 2012 #19
Hint: ProSense Feb 2012 #20
Sorry Robert Frank.. who isn't conservative BrentWil Feb 2012 #24
Well ProSense Feb 2012 #27
I there anything actually wrong with that argument and how I follow it up? BrentWil Feb 2012 #28
What ProSense Feb 2012 #30
It isn't ending safety nets... BrentWil Feb 2012 #31
Let's ProSense Feb 2012 #32
How is simply giving money to people who need it a scheme? BrentWil Feb 2012 #35
Your ProSense Feb 2012 #37
I personally do NOT have a problem with people becoming rich .... Trajan Feb 2012 #5
I dont either. However, BrentWil Feb 2012 #7
What about Me? freefaller62 Feb 2012 #23
R&R Riot and Revolution gopiscrap Feb 2012 #6
Three simple things would help a great deal bhikkhu Feb 2012 #10
I think a simple tax on all income not matter the source.. BrentWil Feb 2012 #18
The inheritance tax both would and wouldn't increase social mobility. Igel Feb 2012 #29
It is controversial bhikkhu Feb 2012 #39
Thanks! pnorman Feb 2012 #11
Well 90% tax rates for the top nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #13
To what end? What kind of tax? What will the revenue be used for? NT BrentWil Feb 2012 #15
Read on the great depression, your answers are there nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #22
Study: 92 percent prefer Swedish model (of wealth distribution) to US model when given a choice pampango Feb 2012 #17
Well, of course they would. Why wouln't they? oldhippie Feb 2012 #36
Eat the rich for starters. lonestarnot Feb 2012 #25
Does anyone know of any such extreme inequality being remedied without violence? oldhippie Feb 2012 #33
Can you give any examples of violence creating equality? bhikkhu Feb 2012 #40
Some leve of inequality is always present... BrentWil Feb 2012 #42
Violence tends to perpetuate inequality bhikkhu Feb 2012 #47
The new deal nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #41
Giving the working class money to spend.... That will create the jobs so badly needed.. And then midnight Feb 2012 #45
I agree NT BrentWil Feb 2012 #46
Tax the fuck out of the rich. Zoeisright Feb 2012 #49
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