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201. there's no sharia law in tunisia, either, and hasn't been for about 60 years. Tunisian women

Sat Apr 6, 2013, 10:21 PM

Apr 2013

had abortion rights before americans did. they got the vote in the 50s. There are more women in Tunisia's equivalent of Congress than there is in the US.

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Poll: Do you support Amina's goal to prevent anti-women Sharia laws from being adopted in Tunisia? [View all] stevenleser Apr 2013 OP

I support her goal, but I am uncertain that her tactic is the best way to do it. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #1

+1 nomorenomore08 Apr 2013 #127

But that's exactly what she's saying -- that the powers-that-be shouldn't be able to tell HER pnwmom Apr 2013 #278

I think she may be effective alive than dead. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #288

Shouldn't there be a third choice for those who support her goals, if not necessarily hlthe2b Apr 2013 #2

I understand your opinion, but I really want to know where people stand given those two choices. stevenleser Apr 2013 #3

that's like republicans saying you supported Saddam if you opposed war JI7 Apr 2013 #5

I don't see it that way. I didnt ask if you supporter her tactics. I asked if you supporter her goal stevenleser Apr 2013 #7

Then why do your graphics emphasize her "tactics"? pscot Apr 2013 #10

I post an article explaining the problem and that is 80% of my OP but all you see is boobs? stevenleser Apr 2013 #13

You hung 'em out there pscot Apr 2013 #15

So boobs are like a red cape for some people and posters are the matadors? No matter what else is stevenleser Apr 2013 #17

If they weren't, you wouldn't have put them pscot Apr 2013 #27

You are projecting. Most people on DU dont lose their heads when confronted by boobs. They can read stevenleser Apr 2013 #33

It's like when republicans bring up beastiality whenever they talk about homosexuality. liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #188

There is a slut-shaming quality to the objections against Amina and Femen stevenleser Apr 2013 #254

Boobs was mentioned in one of your poll choices JI7 Apr 2013 #16

No, I posted a lot of other material as well. You just focus on the boobs. stevenleser Apr 2013 #18

yeah, and people have said they support the goals but maybe not the tactics JI7 Apr 2013 #19

i guess i supported War anytime i criticized Code Pink JI7 Apr 2013 #14

you didn't participate in the poll snooper2 Apr 2013 #183

i usually don't participate in polls JI7 Apr 2013 #277

Thanks for adding some badly needed context to the discussion. pnwmom Apr 2013 #279

yeah, i have criticized code pink and some other liberal groups here JI7 Apr 2013 #4

of course there should- as this was exactly what a large portion of DUers have clearly stated. bettyellen Apr 2013 #100

You're saying that 70 DUers have now voted to support "bullshit flamebait" ? stevenleser Apr 2013 #223

From a Tunisian pro democracy activist: sufrommich Apr 2013 #6

"Protesting an exaggerated statement through a provocative action is wrong." stevenleser Apr 2013 #9

TUnisia protests have been similar to what you linked to, that is not what the person was referring JI7 Apr 2013 #12

it's not just the Muslim world, Women here are not taking off their top to oppose all those JI7 Apr 2013 #11

"Some women here", "some women in Europe". The operative word is SOME. idwiyo Apr 2013 #38

i'm referring to facts, MOST have not protested by taking off their clothes and yelling "fuck the JI7 Apr 2013 #39

Do you know how "most" of them think? Who elected you a spokesperson for the "most" idwiyo Apr 2013 #52

yeah, just like the teabagger rallies which had 10 or fewer people attending JI7 Apr 2013 #53

Right. Naked women protesting for equality is equivalent of teabaggers rallies. Because YOU idwiyo Apr 2013 #57

which teabaggers protested naked ? my comment referred to turnout of protestors and amount of JI7 Apr 2013 #64

You brought teabaggers in, not me. BTW, how many supporters did you mange to gather idwiyo Apr 2013 #70

what a strange post JI7 Apr 2013 #72

What's strange is you bringing naked boobies into almost every post. And making a lot of idwiyo Apr 2013 #75

i brought up Code Pink also, why don't you ask why i take issue with Code pink JI7 Apr 2013 #80

FEMEN seems to be highly effective. For example you can't stop taking about them. :) idwiyo Apr 2013 #284

if their goal is to get me to talk about them, which is a pretty pathetic goal JI7 Apr 2013 #285

Doubt you are anywhere on their radar but you sure cant stop talking about them. And nudity. idwiyo Apr 2013 #286

I know most women don't support FEMEN because few women have joined femen's protests, HiPointDem Apr 2013 #186

I support the African women standing up to multinationals, but I polly7 Apr 2013 #322

The heckler's veto? Really? Shut up or the idiots will be mad? DirkGently Apr 2013 #26

Said it before, I will say it again. Amina and Femen's detractors don't listen to themselves. stevenleser Apr 2013 #29

Whoever is provoked by a picture like this ... needs provoking. DirkGently Apr 2013 #36

I agree. That is the point of provoking. To make people think and question authority. liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #42

+1. n/t pnwmom Apr 2013 #280

Translation: SFU because I don't like what you did. Oh, and BOOBIES!!! WRONG!!! idwiyo Apr 2013 #32

Presicely. Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #98

I am seriously concerned for said people. I wonder if its like an extreme case of phobia? idwiyo Apr 2013 #116

From a GUY named Youssef, you mean..... MADem Apr 2013 #162

Heh.. nice catch. opiate69 Apr 2013 #168

This is what makes me wonder if FEMEN aren't provocateurs whose goal *is* to promote backlash, HiPointDem Apr 2013 #173

Thanks for posting the mansplaining. Why did you think this man had any authority? nt msanthrope Apr 2013 #329

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The answer is up thread. This odd focus on blurred out boobs and ignoring the rest of my OP stevenleser Apr 2013 #20

first response "i support her goal" but questioned the tactic JI7 Apr 2013 #23

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no it's not, women go topless at beaches around the world everyday, i'm not condemning them JI7 Apr 2013 #35

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so it is okay to go topless for entertainment but not to make a political statement? liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #60

how doesn't it make sense ? with political statements there is a goal to get change JI7 Apr 2013 #73

"I would want it" - the it is, right there. My way or no way. Are you pro-choice? idwiyo Apr 2013 #81

since when does being pro choice mean you can't have opinions ? JI7 Apr 2013 #85

Pro-choice means Her Body, Her Choice. PERIOD. Your opinion on what should and shouldn't idwiyo Apr 2013 #93

i would prefer not to see naked guys at a lot of places either, and i criticized Duggars for having JI7 Apr 2013 #95

And? idwiyo Apr 2013 #99

so i like to have opinions JI7 Apr 2013 #103

How is showing your breasts to protest being forced to cover your entire body ineffective? liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #84

they don't just do that they say anti islam statements also JI7 Apr 2013 #88

Have you ever been to a gay rally? Some gays are very overtly sexual and even go naked during gay liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #90

most gays don't get naked and that's not how gay rights have been gained JI7 Apr 2013 #92

I have been to gay rallies and yes there are gays that get naked. I did not say all or even most, liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #102

i never said it was shameful , i never said wearing pink was shameful either JI7 Apr 2013 #105

The reason they are getting naked is because it is the Sharia law that wants to force them liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #113

there is no shariah law in Europe JI7 Apr 2013 #120

The woman who started this is from Tunisia. liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #125

there's no sharia law in tunisia, either, and hasn't been for about 60 years. Tunisian women HiPointDem Apr 2013 #201

Amina. Tunisia. Muslim country. Conservatives. Want Sharia law. Amina protests. FEMEN idwiyo Apr 2013 #126

so wouldn't it be more effective to go to Tunisia ? JI7 Apr 2013 #129

Well, if you think it would why don't you do just that? What is it with constant desire to tell idwiyo Apr 2013 #289

ok, send me money for a ticket and place to stay while i'm there JI7 Apr 2013 #291

Please, contact Skinner for permission to start donation thread. I will gladly donate and I am sure idwiyo Apr 2013 #293

she hasn't disappeared. at least not according to her female lawyer, an internationally-known HiPointDem Apr 2013 #205

You can take "her" lawyer's word. I'll wait till I hear from Amina herself. idwiyo Apr 2013 #287

you do that little thing. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #298

So, all that you have is a word of her lawyer. You don't even now if her lawyer actually idwiyo Apr 2013 #301

I think it is more they have issues about showing off their bodies. kwassa Apr 2013 #132

Less effective? A dozen or so threads in DU with hundreds of responses? Worldwide attention? stevenleser Apr 2013 #139

DU threads are not a sign of effective protest, on DU many threads pop up when Palin JI7 Apr 2013 #143

By all means, ignore the fact that I noted there is worldwide attention. Selectively stevenleser Apr 2013 #148

But why worldwide attention? Naked boobies! No other reason. Look at the boobies!!! kwassa Apr 2013 #151

LOL, oh by all means, tell all protesters who might offend or be in your face they need to tone it stevenleser Apr 2013 #160

Having been to several Gay Day parades...... kwassa Apr 2013 #169

They aren't interested in changing the minds of Sharia supporters--their minds will never be changed MADem Apr 2013 #172

How does "Fuck Your Morals" raise anyone's awareness of anything? kwassa Apr 2013 #177

I hear "Fuck your morals" posted against conservative Christianity on this board all liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #179

Show me a link to that assertion. kwassa Apr 2013 #187

then this shouldn't be a problem with you. liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #191

It is not about being nude. It has never been about being nude. kwassa Apr 2013 #195

When you are being told you must cover you body then yes nudity is a very good form of protest. liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #197

They don't have to cover their bodies in Tunisia. This has been pointed out repeatedly. kwassa Apr 2013 #204

... opiate69 Apr 2013 #212

Is Sharia the current law of Tunisia? No. kwassa Apr 2013 #224

Well.. opiate69 Apr 2013 #233

So the time to object is AFTER the constitution is ratified??!! Really??! riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #262

YET. And that YET has been pointed out to you repeatedly. stevenleser Apr 2013 #218

It is a statement of utter contempt for a system of laws that keep women barefoot, pregnant, MADem Apr 2013 #202

the only people making it about boobs are the ones against it. The ones who support it liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #175

You are so wrong. They are simply showing their boobs to get media attention, kwassa Apr 2013 #180

What do you think going to change minds of Sharia supporters? Do tell! idwiyo Apr 2013 #295

I disagree. I think it is very effective and I think the people objecting are the ones with the liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #176

Femen is a freak sideshow. kwassa Apr 2013 #182

so what? Young people enjoy their sexuality. I did when I was young. My daughter is young and she liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #192

What does enjoying sexuality have to do with protesting Vladmir Putin? kwassa Apr 2013 #198

You were the one who said they were young and cut and like to show off their bodies. liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #217

No, they are specifically protesting against Vladmir Putin. kwassa Apr 2013 #219

I have better things to do. It's date night with my husband. liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #229

I knew you couldn't rebut. kwassa Apr 2013 #230

Ahh, finally! You have a problem with FEMEN because "they are virtually all young and cute, idwiyo Apr 2013 #296

You just can't stop talking about their bodies. It's that nekkidness thing again, isn't it? idwiyo Apr 2013 #292

You are the one obsessed with nakedness. kwassa Apr 2013 #330

looks like its VERY effective. You can@t stop talking about it. :) idwiyo Apr 2013 #331

Amina is tunisian. Tunisian women don't have to cover their entire bodies. They don't have to HiPointDem Apr 2013 #196

Yet. Being the key word, and all.. opiate69 Apr 2013 #208

Yes, there's a movement underway. It's funded by US allies. Maybe protesting *them* would HiPointDem Apr 2013 #209

Easy for you and I to say, sitting here in the U.S.. opiate69 Apr 2013 #214

easy for FEMEN, who's not in tunisia. and the 'revolution' was supposedly for democracy, n'est pas? HiPointDem Apr 2013 #235

So democracy is fine, even if it results in (admittedly worst case theoreticizing) another Taliban? opiate69 Apr 2013 #240

lol. it's clear from these threads that awareness has not been raised much, since most of the HiPointDem Apr 2013 #244

Can't say as I saw that thread... but I knew Tunisia wasn't a Sharia nation.. opiate69 Apr 2013 #253

You actually believe Amina's protest was fake and was designed to help the fundies? idwiyo Apr 2013 #258

There have been a slew of theads about the Islamist influence in the Arab Spring riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #264

you don't know that it's *nothing* like that today. in fact tunisian women have not been silenced, HiPointDem Apr 2013 #272

I support ALL Tunisia feminist protest actions! You clearly do not. riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #275

lol. You haven't *heard* anything about these protest actions, it's all boobies here at DU. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #276

Wow! Brave women! smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #308

Wow! Brave women! smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #310

true, you educated her most ardent supporters at DU . Boy did they not appreciate that! bettyellen Apr 2013 #267

Women didn't have to cover their entire bodies or heads in Iran in 1978.They did in 1979, though. nt MADem Apr 2013 #211

yes, they did. and as they chose the ayatollah for their leader, that was what they chose. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #239

I beg to differ--I left Iran in 1979. Very few wore chadors or even hijab in the larger cities. MADem Apr 2013 #265

I was actually dating an iranian student involved in the protests during the revolution, so i'm not HiPointDem Apr 2013 #269

I left AFTER Khomeini arrived home. I saw the Shah leave with his little cask of dirt MADem Apr 2013 #273

so what? the fact is that khomeni was initially very popular & a symbol of the rev. i don't know HiPointDem Apr 2013 #299

He was popular for about ten minutes--he very quickly consolidated power and started murdering MADem Apr 2013 #302

it may be that it was only 10 minutes -- *after* he assumed power. but during the revolutionary HiPointDem Apr 2013 #303

Shah was ill. Things were happening well before he left. MADem Apr 2013 #306

Translation: Nakkid is OK when, and where "I" say it OK. Otherwise it's WRONG. idwiyo Apr 2013 #77

No. Despite the endless repetition of this idea in these hundreds of posts ..... kwassa Apr 2013 #137

You keep talking about Boobies. And Nudity. Again, and again, and again. Their tactics work idwiyo Apr 2013 #147

Oh, please. That image of that woman is so manipulative. kwassa Apr 2013 #156

Oh my... You cant stand it that she did get her message across. It pisses you off. idwiyo Apr 2013 #199

But if her message is a lie, what value does it have? None. And you don't care. kwassa Apr 2013 #216

LOL. "Her message is confused" "Her message is a lie" "She isn't Tunisian enough" "She should tone stevenleser Apr 2013 #220

All those reasons stick. Every last one of them. kwassa Apr 2013 #226

Only in your mind, dearie. opiate69 Apr 2013 #237

I still await a logical rebuttal of any of them from you. kwassa Apr 2013 #246

. stevenleser Apr 2013 #238

When you have a response with content, please post it. kwassa Apr 2013 #248

Regardless of what I do or say, you will make up a new charge against Amina and Femen. stevenleser Apr 2013 #250

You just don't have an argument. Not my problem. kwassa Apr 2013 #256

Actually it's you who is talking about collusion with photographer, about image been false, about idwiyo Apr 2013 #251

You think there is a valid purpose for a faked photo. This is dishonest. kwassa Apr 2013 #261

No, YOU think it's a faked photo. And I already told you it's irrelevant what you think. idwiyo Apr 2013 #268

Mission Accomplished! polly7 Apr 2013 #321

You would think feminists would use the oprtunity to get their message across while media is paying idwiyo Apr 2013 #323

I am seriously thinking it is some kind of obsession with nakedness. Otherwise, why concentrate on idwiyo Apr 2013 #48

It IS scary. We have feminists unable to express support for this woman because she showed her stevenleser Apr 2013 #56

No, they expressed support for the issue, just not her tactic. kwassa Apr 2013 #236

Jury went 2-4 to leave this post LadyHawkAZ Apr 2013 #46

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exactly. Women are suppose to have the freedom to do what they want with their bodies. I don't like liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #51

Well, Femen is anti-porn and anti-prostitution, so they don't agree with you. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #58

They don't agree with you, that's for sure. They also don't agree with forcing women to do what idwiyo Apr 2013 #61

Interesting point, but you are also slightly wrong. stevenleser Apr 2013 #62

+1 idwiyo Apr 2013 #66

protesting Sex Work is how they started JI7 Apr 2013 #68

Repeating the same BS over and over agin is not going no make it so. Really, do go and check idwiyo Apr 2013 #71

really ? opposing sex work is not about the sex workers ? JI7 Apr 2013 #78

Feigning this level of ignorance does not do you credit. Really. nt stevenleser Apr 2013 #82

Am sorry to tell you, but no. Not if one is pro-choice. There is a difference, really. idwiyo Apr 2013 #83

so why do they oppose sex work ? JI7 Apr 2013 #91

Again, they don't. Go read what is written on their bodies. Try to read the native language too. idwiyo Apr 2013 #96

so why are they opposed to prostitution ? JI7 Apr 2013 #109

Go back and read some more. You are not going to believe anything I say anyway. Go, read, think. idwiyo Apr 2013 #118

why not tell me and post links , or at least explain it JI7 Apr 2013 #123

It troubles you, not me. Start with looking at the pictures. Find ones with Cyrillic on them. idwiyo Apr 2013 #134

That person knows full well what you are saying. They are feigning ignorance and playing games stevenleser Apr 2013 #115

i haven't done anything to support Code Pink either , does that mean i supported the war in IRaq JI7 Apr 2013 #121

I know :) I am just trying to be an optimist and give them a chance to evolve. Anything possible. idwiyo Apr 2013 #122

so Femen does not oppose prostitution ? JI7 Apr 2013 #124

Keep reading, you are not there yet. :) idwiyo Apr 2013 #128

i didn't find anything , why don't you give a link, you seem to love posting accusations JI7 Apr 2013 #130

Opposition to turning Ukraine into international bordello does not equal opposition to sex workers. idwiyo Apr 2013 #141

no, still don't see what you are trying to say JI7 Apr 2013 #178

seems like it's a NIMBY issue- they don;t want too much sex work in their back yard... bettyellen Apr 2013 #260

Keep reading. I am not here to do your work for you. idwiyo Apr 2013 #297

Other: we interfere in other countries' business far too much. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #21

Tunisia is Amina's country. nt stevenleser Apr 2013 #25

Well of course. And screw the "tone" attack on "how she said it "(nt). DirkGently Apr 2013 #22

Amen! Fuck the tone-trolling! backscatter712 Apr 2013 #149

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Holy shit! Uncle Leo! opiate69 Apr 2013 #31

lol Go Vols Apr 2013 #43

who here said he is defending women and opposing patriachy ? JI7 Apr 2013 #45

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is that guy a patriarchy battler ? JI7 Apr 2013 #112

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I sincerely hope that guy got his ass kicked, because he severely needs a beating. n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #150

No shit. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #152

I support the feminist movement. Rex Apr 2013 #30

+1000 maddezmom Apr 2013 #34

we're way too prudish when it comes to nudity in this country. liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #40

I think all religion is patriarchal boston bean Apr 2013 #41

Lots of women Go Vols Apr 2013 #44

Bogus choices. winter is coming Apr 2013 #50

I think we can see from the emerging poll results how bogus DUers think the choices are. nt stevenleser Apr 2013 #54

How many are even bothering to read the second choice? winter is coming Apr 2013 #55

The poll is more than a poll on the specifics. It's a test of what is important to DUers. stevenleser Apr 2013 #59

Nudity's not offensive to me. Piss-poor logic is. n/t winter is coming Apr 2013 #63

Your actions are drowning out your words here. nt stevenleser Apr 2013 #65

ROFL! Go back and read some of the threads, and see if you can find ANY winter is coming Apr 2013 #69

LOL, Do you understand what a proper poll is? stevenleser Apr 2013 #74

Duh. You don't have the means to do that aspect of polling properly. winter is coming Apr 2013 #87

Let's parse what has evolved to be your position stevenleser Apr 2013 #89

I could. And so could the other people in this thread who find your choices bogus. winter is coming Apr 2013 #94

I'm happy with my poll. You can create whatever poll you want to create. nt stevenleser Apr 2013 #106

I support feminism and feminists in Tunisia. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #67

the only ones who oppose this are right wing religious fundies, fake feminists, quinnox Apr 2013 #76

Just because you say so? kwassa Apr 2013 #142

some opposing viewpoints are better left ignored snooper2 Apr 2013 #190

especially when you have no counter-argument kwassa Apr 2013 #200

you are correct, I have no counter-argument for people on a random message board snooper2 Apr 2013 #207

which is why you found it so necessary to respond. kwassa Apr 2013 #232

likewise LOL, snooper2 Apr 2013 #243

A-fucking-men. The tone-trolls can suck it! n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #146

and yet you complained when people criticized the Pope/vatican JI7 Apr 2013 #189

This is an absurdly loaded question. TimberValley Apr 2013 #79

See my #59 and my #74 for answers to that. nt stevenleser Apr 2013 #86

It's par for the course... Scootaloo Apr 2013 #108

Ahh.. but, does a true feminist take sugar on her porridge?? opiate69 Apr 2013 #111

Except... that Femen and Amina are second wavers. Nice try though. nt stevenleser Apr 2013 #117

And that's probably the most ironic thing about this whole issue opiate69 Apr 2013 #119

Interesting. So by our previous discussions on the subject... Scootaloo Apr 2013 #138

Nope. I disagree with them about porn and prostitution as I disagree with all second wavers on stevenleser Apr 2013 #140

Like I said; so long as they have their breasts out, they have your attention Scootaloo Apr 2013 #161

Nope. Just like I have supported 2nd wavers here I disagreed with on many occasions. And I can stevenleser Apr 2013 #163

Well, that runs contrary to my expeirence with you. Scootaloo Apr 2013 #166

Cool kids ? dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #317

As a Feminist, of course I do! Catherina Apr 2013 #97

Maybe a better poll would be... randome Apr 2013 #101

I voted yes. But your second option is frankly stupid beyond words. Scootaloo Apr 2013 #104

You are one of the few who has opposed Femen who has voted 'Yes' stevenleser Apr 2013 #110

I don't "oppose Femen," Steve Scootaloo Apr 2013 #135

Great post. kwassa Apr 2013 #144

The part about it being factually wrong obviously doesn't concern you. Amina is Tunisian. stevenleser Apr 2013 #154

Tyler is one of those traditional Tunisian names, isn't it? kwassa Apr 2013 #158

It very well could be... your inability to think so is dangerously close to bigotry actually.. opiate69 Apr 2013 #164

Make Up A Fact Time! kwassa Apr 2013 #174

I would never steal your claim to fame. opiate69 Apr 2013 #185

You have no idea why this Tunisian woman is named Tyler, do you? kwassa Apr 2013 #193

It's been a few years since I got involved with the religion group wars... opiate69 Apr 2013 #194

You have no facts as to why this woman is named Tyler. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. kwassa Apr 2013 #221

No.. I have no facts to prove your despicable accusation concerning her identity as the lie opiate69 Apr 2013 #225

Thank you for admitting your lack of factual information on this topic. kwassa Apr 2013 #228

Well, according to the article posted upthread, "Tyler" is Amina's NICKNAME. MADem Apr 2013 #311

Read further in the article kwassa Apr 2013 #327

I read that article four times--the first two times, the "nickname" stuff MADem Apr 2013 #328

So you want to change this to whether Amina is 'Tunisian enough' to protest in Tunisia. stevenleser Apr 2013 #215

Amina is copying Femen tactics from the Ukraine, rather than Tunisian protest tactics. kwassa Apr 2013 #245

So, with absence of knowledge, you make up a new charge of cultural jingoism and add a bizarre stevenleser Apr 2013 #247

I know, right?? I mean... opiate69 Apr 2013 #252

The cultural jingoism is obvious, and much discussed here. Tyler's story is not. kwassa Apr 2013 #255

"The cultural jingoism is obvious". No it isn't. You pulled it out of thin air. stevenleser Apr 2013 #257

The cultural jingoism I am referring to has nothing to do with Tyler's name. Its name is Femen. kwassa Apr 2013 #263

Amina is Tunisian and she formed her own branch of Femen and protested the way she wanted to protest stevenleser Apr 2013 #283

Why don't you do the explaining? Do you know for certain that her name is not a pseudonym? MADem Apr 2013 #290

I did the explaining. You don't accept it. Find out something. kwassa Apr 2013 #324

Oh, wise one? opiate69 Apr 2013 #325

According to the article cited in this thread, it's a nickname. So your explanation was wrong. nt MADem Apr 2013 #326

Amina is Tunisian, lives there and she started Femen Tunisia. Your characterization is wrong. stevenleser Apr 2013 #153

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LOL, any attack from you I wear as a badge of honor. nt stevenleser Apr 2013 #167

Okay. Scootaloo Apr 2013 #171

I support her goals ... etherealtruth Apr 2013 #131

Anything that supports jihadists will take society backwards. Initech Apr 2013 #133

It seems we have a secular form of fundamentalism here in the US when it comes to nudity. liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #184

No matter what people say, it sure as hell *looks* like both "sides" freaking out over nudity. nomorenomore08 Apr 2013 #136

I support Amina Tyler's goal, and I support her tactics. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #145

Very well said. Comments by some do remind me of objections to gay pride parades stevenleser Apr 2013 #155

Yep. In this protest, pissing people off is the goal. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #159

where did she say her goal is to prevent the adoption of sharia law? and furthermore, if indeed HiPointDem Apr 2013 #165

Where she lives, Sharia law's likely to be forced on her whether she shows her boobs or not. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #203

Tunisia hasn't had sharia law for 60 years. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #206

Then why's she protesting? backscatter712 Apr 2013 #210

The fundamentalist can't get the government to do that... Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #222

The fundies very well might. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #227

Freedom and equality for women are written into the constitution. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #234

Nope. The new constitution hasn't been voted on yet so everything's in limbo riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #259

Good question. I'm not sure how the OP got 'she's protesting sharia law' from the limited HiPointDem Apr 2013 #231

When she contacted Femen and asked how she could join, they told her Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #241

The first messages were in english. only the last (which came later) was in arabic. it suggests HiPointDem Apr 2013 #242

The national religion is Islam. A non-Muslim cannot be President. Government officials must MADem Apr 2013 #249

So what? Under that constitution (1959) Sharia law was abolished, women got the vote, abortion HiPointDem Apr 2013 #266

Nothing in the past means anything to the Tunisia of today! riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #270

Precisely--and the Salafists are pushing for MORE Islam, not less, and fewer rights for women. MADem Apr 2013 #274

You don't get it. When it comes down to "rights of women," the reference point is the Qu'ran. MADem Apr 2013 #271

you posted the 1959 constitution, under which tunisian women lived much as western women HiPointDem Apr 2013 #300

The draft constitution hasn't been ratified yet. They are still fighting over it. MADem Apr 2013 #304

Yes: & those fundies are funded by US allies. The US is actually in bed with those fundies in HiPointDem Apr 2013 #305

Gee, you went from "Nothing to see here" to "Blame America." MADem Apr 2013 #307

i don't much care what you think. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #309

I'm sure you don't--I have my facts in order, and that's apparently problematic for you. nt MADem Apr 2013 #312

you have your straw men in order, you mean. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #313

Which straw men would those be? Point them out, and do be very specific. nt MADem Apr 2013 #314

Actuallly..... DeSwiss Apr 2013 #170

the lack of certain usernames in the poll says more than anything else LOL snooper2 Apr 2013 #181

For what it is worth, I never vote on these polls but I have expressed my Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #213

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #333

FWIW, Tunisia is a wonderful country w/ wonderful people Nevernose Apr 2013 #281

Everything that I have read seems to suggest that. And I think Amina and others like her are trying stevenleser Apr 2013 #282

The fundies were trying to put that polygamy back IN the new constitution, you know. MADem Apr 2013 #294

Yes, I do. HappyMe Apr 2013 #315

+ 10^10^100 nt stevenleser Apr 2013 #318

kick HappyMe Apr 2013 #316

Kick back atcha! stevenleser Apr 2013 #319

..... HappyMe Apr 2013 #320

Kick. 102 DUers who get it!!!!! stevenleser Apr 2013 #332