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In reply to the discussion: I Love Social Security [View all]dkf
(37,305 posts)15. Using CBO numbers which politifact confirmed as being from the CBO.
Look at the citizens guide and its pretty obvious it's a problem. That's from the Treasury btw. Of course you will probably say you can't count on government projections because they are all right wing kooks.
I really wish the chart was easy to copy and paste. I would make it my damned sig line if I could.
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Lol, well sometimes people reveal their true 'sentiments' late at night, or is it early in the
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#6
I know. I would like to know if anti-Social Security people are also anti-Insurance policies in
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#11
Josh Mandel?? You're giving us projections on 'entitlement' programs from a Republican?
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#13
If you believe SS has no impact on the Natl Debt then I expect you think there will be a 25% cut
dkf
Apr 2013
#18
Seems like the simple solution would be to lift the cap and raise the SS tax.
SunSeeker
Apr 2013
#22
The trust fund will not expire. It currently has a surplus of over 2 trillion dollars. Too bad the
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#23
I have no idea where you are getting your numbers from...not from SS trustees apparently.
dkf
Apr 2013
#27
I guess I thought I would get something, after all if you go to all that trouble to make a statement
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#35
Raise the cap, increase taxes on the entities that can afford it, cut big war funding... Done.
grahamhgreen
Apr 2013
#43
How about we just let all the old people die? What utter garbage you are bringing here. SS pays
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#104
While we wait for GOP to jump on board with that, should we just sit quietly by and do nothing?
Hoyt
Apr 2013
#82
Why is SS a part of these discussions since it had nothing to do with the deficit and doesn't cost
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#108
Wait, you are blaming the creditor for the borrowing of the debtor? Again, you are not being clear.
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#110
Sorry, but money you and I paid in went to pay SS benefits for folks our parents age. Not right,
Hoyt
Apr 2013
#121
You couldn't be more wrong. There is a two trillion dollar surplus in the trust fund right now
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#126
And there's the old right wing lie they've telling for generations. I had hoped we wouldn't resort
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#132
Do you realize the payroll tax holiday contributed directly to the debt and the deficit?
dkf
Apr 2013
#50
Oh Bullshit. SS has two other sources of revenue and has shown a SURPLUS every year
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#51
Debt, deficit, SS is a separate fund and has nothing to do with either. You need to learn
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#140
Thank you, how refreshing to see that at least some people here actually understand
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#141
Those projections chancge every year and are based on the direst of situations.
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#54
I'm not assuming it, I am expecting it. I am working with millions of other Americans to
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#142
What makes you think that the Federal Govt will 'only provide SS'. The Fed Govt DOESN'T
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#4
I remember when pitting programs like Social Security and education against each other was solely
suffragette
Apr 2013
#24
Lol, well, that was a short and sweet slap down of that particular talking point.
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#143
I never agreed with him running for president. It was not the way to make a point. I always
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#157
The more anti social security people tell me they are Democrats, the more I realize
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#52
It still is, the difference is moderate Republicans are called third way Democrats sometimes
Dragonfli
Apr 2013
#61
Exactly. Same as the third way in the UK acted, which ushered the Tories back to power
suffragette
Apr 2013
#74
Wow, there it is right there. The propaganda we are seeing, right here in this thread!
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#86
Of course, he couldn't anticipate 3rd-Way thinking: "Where else are they going to go?"
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#123
Your chart has a very major flaw. It mentions the Deficit as an expense, (thanks Bush and your
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#32
I know, it is so transparent the way they try to distort these things. I guess if you read
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#144
A very good Republican point, so yeah, very brave to make it on a Democratic forum
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#87
I saw 42 today.God, I admire what Jackie Robinson had to go through. Even from his own team.
graham4anything
Apr 2013
#115
What have the republicans every done for the working man in history. Even big banks owe FDR their
demosincebirth
Apr 2013
#154
I am so glad that your parents are okay. I will be right there with you in that fight.
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#33
I couldn't agree more 'any politician who proposes the destruction of or even a cut to social
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#146
The fight is going to have to be fierce on our side to protect it. They have become blatant now
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#79
Thank you for posting that G20 speech. I was thinking about it when the proposal was announced
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#107
Oilwellian, what a beautiful post, it actually made me cry. Especially the part about your dad
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#91
No, thank you for posting in my thread. You and some of the other posters who provided examples of
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#155
No "REAL" Democrat on DU or anywhere else would ever be for cuts of any sort to SS.
L0oniX
Apr 2013
#93
Lol, well I guess it must have. But you realize you may be ruining my reputation now ...
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#102
Yikes! I was with her all the way until you approved. Now I will have to reevaluate. nm
rhett o rick
Apr 2013
#113
"Roosevelt insisted that the new program not look like a dole, his aides later explained"
Nye Bevan
Apr 2013
#105
Thanks for posting. I am going to ask Skinner if he can add a feature so I can
rhett o rick
Apr 2013
#114
The Woman Behind the New Deal: The Life and Legacy of Frances Perkins
Ruby the Liberal
Apr 2013
#122
I have not read that book, but I have read a great deal about Francis Perkins. She is a fascinating
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#152
Sabrina, I thank you for posting this information. I am grateful SS has been there for me.
classof56
Apr 2013
#135
I am so thrilled at the people, real people like you who have posted in this thread offering proof
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#151
SS is a bedrock DEM PRINCIPLE, lazly cast asunder by Obama in his fetish for "bipartisanship" w/an
blkmusclmachine
Apr 2013
#147