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In reply to the discussion: I Love Social Security [View all]Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)61. It still is, the difference is moderate Republicans are called third way Democrats sometimes
The same Republican tactics are used by these third way "Democrats " as the other Republican style thinkers. This is an attack from two fronts.
From their 1% funded think tank:http://www.thirdway.org/subjects/145/publications/564
...as the cost of entitlement programs like Medicare and Social Security has skyrocketed, weve spent less and less of our budget educating kids...
Here they repeat their Republican tactic of pitting Social Security against education, implying the are paid from the same fund and compete
They pretty much spend the entire propaganda report claiming "entitlements" are a direct threat to and compete with everything in the budget, in their words, "they're on a collision course".
this report, we argue that the only way for Democrats to save progressive priorities like NASA, highway funding, and clean energy research is to reform entitlements...
They still use the same tactics of pitting desirable things in the budget against Social Security, only now they make the pretense that they aren't Republicans anymore, but a new kind of third way Democrat. All it takes is a registration and the pretense that they are pro-choice, The money still comes from their usual sources, and the talking points remain largely unchanged.
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Lol, well sometimes people reveal their true 'sentiments' late at night, or is it early in the
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#6
I know. I would like to know if anti-Social Security people are also anti-Insurance policies in
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#11
Josh Mandel?? You're giving us projections on 'entitlement' programs from a Republican?
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#13
If you believe SS has no impact on the Natl Debt then I expect you think there will be a 25% cut
dkf
Apr 2013
#18
Seems like the simple solution would be to lift the cap and raise the SS tax.
SunSeeker
Apr 2013
#22
The trust fund will not expire. It currently has a surplus of over 2 trillion dollars. Too bad the
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#23
I have no idea where you are getting your numbers from...not from SS trustees apparently.
dkf
Apr 2013
#27
I guess I thought I would get something, after all if you go to all that trouble to make a statement
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#35
Raise the cap, increase taxes on the entities that can afford it, cut big war funding... Done.
grahamhgreen
Apr 2013
#43
How about we just let all the old people die? What utter garbage you are bringing here. SS pays
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#104
While we wait for GOP to jump on board with that, should we just sit quietly by and do nothing?
Hoyt
Apr 2013
#82
Why is SS a part of these discussions since it had nothing to do with the deficit and doesn't cost
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#108
Wait, you are blaming the creditor for the borrowing of the debtor? Again, you are not being clear.
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#110
Sorry, but money you and I paid in went to pay SS benefits for folks our parents age. Not right,
Hoyt
Apr 2013
#121
You couldn't be more wrong. There is a two trillion dollar surplus in the trust fund right now
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#126
And there's the old right wing lie they've telling for generations. I had hoped we wouldn't resort
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#132
Do you realize the payroll tax holiday contributed directly to the debt and the deficit?
dkf
Apr 2013
#50
Oh Bullshit. SS has two other sources of revenue and has shown a SURPLUS every year
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#51
Debt, deficit, SS is a separate fund and has nothing to do with either. You need to learn
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#140
Thank you, how refreshing to see that at least some people here actually understand
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#141
Those projections chancge every year and are based on the direst of situations.
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#54
I'm not assuming it, I am expecting it. I am working with millions of other Americans to
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#142
What makes you think that the Federal Govt will 'only provide SS'. The Fed Govt DOESN'T
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#4
I remember when pitting programs like Social Security and education against each other was solely
suffragette
Apr 2013
#24
Lol, well, that was a short and sweet slap down of that particular talking point.
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#143
I never agreed with him running for president. It was not the way to make a point. I always
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#157
The more anti social security people tell me they are Democrats, the more I realize
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#52
It still is, the difference is moderate Republicans are called third way Democrats sometimes
Dragonfli
Apr 2013
#61
Exactly. Same as the third way in the UK acted, which ushered the Tories back to power
suffragette
Apr 2013
#74
Wow, there it is right there. The propaganda we are seeing, right here in this thread!
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#86
Of course, he couldn't anticipate 3rd-Way thinking: "Where else are they going to go?"
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#123
Your chart has a very major flaw. It mentions the Deficit as an expense, (thanks Bush and your
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#32
I know, it is so transparent the way they try to distort these things. I guess if you read
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#144
A very good Republican point, so yeah, very brave to make it on a Democratic forum
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#87
I saw 42 today.God, I admire what Jackie Robinson had to go through. Even from his own team.
graham4anything
Apr 2013
#115
What have the republicans every done for the working man in history. Even big banks owe FDR their
demosincebirth
Apr 2013
#154
I am so glad that your parents are okay. I will be right there with you in that fight.
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#33
I couldn't agree more 'any politician who proposes the destruction of or even a cut to social
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#146
The fight is going to have to be fierce on our side to protect it. They have become blatant now
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#79
Thank you for posting that G20 speech. I was thinking about it when the proposal was announced
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#107
Oilwellian, what a beautiful post, it actually made me cry. Especially the part about your dad
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#91
No, thank you for posting in my thread. You and some of the other posters who provided examples of
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#155
No "REAL" Democrat on DU or anywhere else would ever be for cuts of any sort to SS.
L0oniX
Apr 2013
#93
Lol, well I guess it must have. But you realize you may be ruining my reputation now ...
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#102
Yikes! I was with her all the way until you approved. Now I will have to reevaluate. nm
rhett o rick
Apr 2013
#113
"Roosevelt insisted that the new program not look like a dole, his aides later explained"
Nye Bevan
Apr 2013
#105
Thanks for posting. I am going to ask Skinner if he can add a feature so I can
rhett o rick
Apr 2013
#114
The Woman Behind the New Deal: The Life and Legacy of Frances Perkins
Ruby the Liberal
Apr 2013
#122
I have not read that book, but I have read a great deal about Francis Perkins. She is a fascinating
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#152
Sabrina, I thank you for posting this information. I am grateful SS has been there for me.
classof56
Apr 2013
#135
I am so thrilled at the people, real people like you who have posted in this thread offering proof
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#151
SS is a bedrock DEM PRINCIPLE, lazly cast asunder by Obama in his fetish for "bipartisanship" w/an
blkmusclmachine
Apr 2013
#147