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In reply to the discussion: My how things have changed. [View all]That so many are okay with the loss of civil liberties is deeply disturbing. That so many HERE are is even more so.
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People will wrongly give up liberties to feel safer. And people 100% trust the Police/FBI. n-t
Logical
Apr 2013
#1
Actually there are large swathes of the population that don't trust law enforcement.
MadHound
Apr 2013
#5
What's worse, there are those who will unnecessarily give up other people's liberties to feel safer.
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#198
Maybe they're out celebrating today, rather than pissing & moaning on the internet?
whathehell
Apr 2013
#91
Aren't you pissing and moaning on the internet about people pissing and moaning about Civil
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#204
I was not as optimistic as you, we long ago gave up the fourth amendment for the drug war
Fumesucker
Apr 2013
#209
It's not the actual methods while the suspects were still loose with bombs and weapons that
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#243
Yes, there are those concerns, that there may be others. And I agree with you. It's possible to be
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#265
Perhaps you should do some research on what is and is not a police state.
TwilightZone
Apr 2013
#116
No raids. No martial law. Citizens wanted to help police to do their jobs.
nobodyspecial
Apr 2013
#7
So, can we allow the police to question you without your Miranda rights in play,
MadHound
Apr 2013
#13
I've had several speeding tickets in my 64 years, but no cop ever read me my Miranda rights. So what
bornskeptic
Apr 2013
#112
Nothing says Terrorists win like shutting down a city for ONE suspect. The next.....
Logical
Apr 2013
#16
If that made sense, they would do that for the Banksters who caused more harm to Boston than the
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#156
That's a far better & more realistic read, but much too positive for the sack cloth & ashes crowd
whathehell
Apr 2013
#162
All true. As you said, though, they are ignoring the obvious if it doesn't fit their narrative.
whathehell
Apr 2013
#234
Sure, because who doesn't want to take a stroll through an area with gunfire and bombs going off?
whathehell
Apr 2013
#30
Ask the inured & the families of the dead if they would have waited "all fucking day"
whathehell
Apr 2013
#68
Jesus, notice how they CANCELLED it Friday when the asshat was STILL LOOSE! WHY? Why cancel it....
Logical
Apr 2013
#76
Sure..Questions like this certainly outweigh values like lives saved and a killer captured, right?
whathehell
Apr 2013
#89
Once again, if the threat was there all day Friday, why was it not there Friday night? Wow,
Logical
Apr 2013
#93
Since you clearly don't do subtlety, let me put it in a manner you can understand..
whathehell
Apr 2013
#102
Once again..It's a lame question whose answer, whatever it is, won't cut it for you, bro!
whathehell
Apr 2013
#113
Aw, gee. I'm crushed especially since I DID did get an explanation, lame gage of the BPD as it is.
whathehell
Apr 2013
#181
Because they figured he'd lost enough blood to be weak and easy to take....and they were right.
MADem
Apr 2013
#135
"liberal board" Some of us may be liberals but it is clear that many on this board are not.
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#158
Who the hell is "they"? Who are these people who want to take away our civil liberties?
lumpy
Apr 2013
#161
Well good for you. I hope you would respect your neighbor's right to keep the door shut.
reformist2
Apr 2013
#23
Convenient for terrorists to say "don't allow a search, or else" in your scenario,
mzmolly
Apr 2013
#27
Actually... this past week I saw a small town in Texas completely destroyed.
ScreamingMeemie
Apr 2013
#22
This: "we use phrases as we choose and define or expand their meaning as we choose to".
CrispyQ
Apr 2013
#239
I really can't blame the rank and file policeman or other government employee for this.
Cleita
Apr 2013
#25
Oh please. Most people don't think clearly with guns pointed all over. Anyway, the video:
reformist2
Apr 2013
#64
Looks like a drug bust to me. That is an awful lot of adult males for one household
alphafemale
Apr 2013
#232
Um, yes, we did see them raid homes. Utube is often used now by citizens to record events that might
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#247
"if you're not a terrorist, why should you care". That pretty much sums up our society
madinmaryland
Apr 2013
#34
Of course, Ben Franklin never had to deal with some asshole putting a pressure cooker bomb at his
MADem
Apr 2013
#134
One of the arguments gun nuts use is "You can't depend on the police"...
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2013
#39
Show me a big city police chief saying people should arm themselves because the cops are useless.
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2013
#107
(1) No. (2) It wasn't. (3) If the police had probable cause to assault the house in force (and
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#166
If the "police of greater Boston fulfilled the "To Protect And Serve" role pretty well," maybe some
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#167
Boston's a blue city, and not to put too fine a point on it, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts
MADem
Apr 2013
#211
Of course the community wanted them caught. Why shouldn't they have wanted that?
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#224
You're a Watertown or Mass resident and you say something as silly and inane as that?
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#227
You've got the market on "silly and inane" cornered. I don't have to "bully" you--you're a
MADem
Apr 2013
#228
You " 'don't' have to bully"? Actually, you can try but nobody bullies me. Not you. Not anyone.
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#241
Because I think what you say is unrelated to the facts and you're nuts, I'm putting you on ignore.
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#267
I expect LE to act like this in most every major city under similar circumstances...
egduj
Apr 2013
#61
Yep. With all their home invasions, the police didn't even find him! A civilian did.
reformist2
Apr 2013
#66
For the TSA to consider a person to be a possible criminal and terrorist based upon complaining, is
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#168
Adding, you would have preferred an endless barrage of "red alerts" followed by attacking
mzmolly
Apr 2013
#67
You must be joking. Everything that happened in Boston was justified in my mind.
geckosfeet
Apr 2013
#83
If your house in on fire, are the firefighters breaking down your door trespassing?
baldguy
Apr 2013
#92
They sure don't like it, they're out in force insulting, abusing and hating the truth
just1voice
Apr 2013
#200
I'm pretty sure the 4th Amendment had more to do with political persecutions...
randome
Apr 2013
#105
I thought it was people wanted to be able to hide things from the government.
limpyhobbler
Apr 2013
#127
Benjamin Franklin thought we should stay a colony of England for the longest time, too.
MADem
Apr 2013
#213
BRAVO. But "civil liberties be returned"? Not likely, what with those "USA! USA!" cheers (p.i.).
WinkyDink
Apr 2013
#139
This is exactly how I feel. Our civil liberties have been so eroded since 9/11 and
forestpath
Apr 2013
#140
I'm sorry if I did that, it wasn't intentional, nonetheless, I'm not convinced that
whathehell
Apr 2013
#201
Two predictions: (1) Some will say that "his actual rights" were "suspended."
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#173
Welcome To Revolution - The Right Wing Revolution - Enjoy Remembering Those Freedoms
cantbeserious
Apr 2013
#151
This is why the founding fathers worried about political parties - people get way too attached.
reformist2
Apr 2013
#155
Well said. But it does appear that a lot of people, even on this board, don't want you or anyone
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#176
You are wrong in saying "we are indeed, living in a police state." You are also wrong in suggesting
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#256
What deviation from the truth? You FALSLY said "she recommends everyone to be armed"
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#223
She never said "You're gonna NEED more than a butterknife". Beginning at 0:10 she described
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#246
Are you kidding me? The American public will NEVER demand these civil liberties be returned.
Zorra
Apr 2013
#182
I'm expecting them to waterboard the subject once he recovers enough to endure it.
L0oniX
Apr 2013
#242