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76. Jesus, notice how they CANCELLED it Friday when the asshat was STILL LOOSE! WHY? Why cancel it....

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Sun Apr 21, 2013, 03:29 PM

Apr 2013

when nightfall was coming and he was still at large?

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My how things have changed. [View all] MadHound Apr 2013 OP

People will wrongly give up liberties to feel safer. And people 100% trust the Police/FBI. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #1

Actually there are large swathes of the population that don't trust law enforcement. MadHound Apr 2013 #5

So true. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #14

"And people 100% trust the Police/FBI" bvar22 Apr 2013 #136

Too much officer friendly shit and TV shows showing perfect cops. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #174

What's worse, there are those who will unnecessarily give up other people's liberties to feel safer. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #198

But..but..now were safe and our liberties are protected! Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #2

But..but...You don't live in Boston, do you? whathehell Apr 2013 #44

What's stopping them from "weighing in"? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #88

Maybe they're out celebrating today, rather than pissing & moaning on the internet? whathehell Apr 2013 #91

Which is where you are. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #94

And where you are as well.. whathehell Apr 2013 #106

No, I'm not. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #110

Nice spin, LOL. whathehell Apr 2013 #118

Aren't you pissing and moaning on the internet about people pissing and moaning about Civil sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #204

I was not as optimistic as you, we long ago gave up the fourth amendment for the drug war Fumesucker Apr 2013 #209

If that's what you call responding to "pissing and moaning", I guess so. whathehell Apr 2013 #214

It's not the actual methods while the suspects were still loose with bombs and weapons that sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #243

I understand you now, and yes, I agree, certainly insofar as his not being whathehell Apr 2013 #258

Yes, there are those concerns, that there may be others. And I agree with you. It's possible to be sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #265

Good. I'm glad, but not surprised to see that we're in agreement. whathehell Apr 2013 #269

+1000 DeSwiss Apr 2013 #130

But if we give up our freedoms demcoat Apr 2013 #157

The pro-police-state reaction here has been shameful. reformist2 Apr 2013 #3

"pro police state"? "shameful"? whathehell Apr 2013 #60

Perhaps you should do some research on what is and is not a police state. TwilightZone Apr 2013 #116

LOL! whathehell Apr 2013 #123

Thank you. Richardo Apr 2013 #235

the glurge-laden police fluffing here almost seems datasuspect Apr 2013 #4

It's likely both; it's paid for and people are that propagandized just1voice Apr 2013 #203

Option C--they know stuff you don't. Nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #231

Yes. LWolf Apr 2013 #6

They have been steeped in Jack Baur "24" Dustlawyer Apr 2013 #145

No raids. No martial law. Citizens wanted to help police to do their jobs. nobodyspecial Apr 2013 #7

+1 CountAllVotes Apr 2013 #11

So, can we allow the police to question you without your Miranda rights in play, MadHound Apr 2013 #13

OH BULLSHIT Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #15

+10 whathehell Apr 2013 #40

Wow, that's Orwellian MadHound Apr 2013 #125

Not every police action is part of a conspiracy to erode civil liberties. Arkana Apr 2013 #149

Creepy, creepy, creepy words. woo me with science Apr 2013 #128

Said the person safe as a kitten. nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #131

Authoritarianism always wraps itself in "safety." nt woo me with science Apr 2013 #133

"The *next* time you get pulled over for a DUI or speeding ticket". westerebus Apr 2013 #36

What do Miranda rights have to do with speeding tickets? TwilightZone Apr 2013 #50

Once you have been pulled over, you are no longer a danger treestar Apr 2013 #74

I've had several speeding tickets in my 64 years, but no cop ever read me my Miranda rights. So what bornskeptic Apr 2013 #112

Miranda's for arrests. n/t DeSwiss Apr 2013 #132

Your problem was that you we not driving fast enough to get arrested. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #153

Yes there is a requirement if you are arrested. former9thward Apr 2013 #163

Nothing says Terrorists win like shutting down a city for ONE suspect. The next..... Logical Apr 2013 #16

For a 19-year-old punk. jsr Apr 2013 #86

Consider this alternate read of the situation: yewberry Apr 2013 #101

That makes too much sense. TwilightZone Apr 2013 #117

If that made sense, they would do that for the Banksters who caused more harm to Boston than the AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #156

Stay on topic, please. nt yewberry Apr 2013 #184

That's a far better & more realistic read, but much too positive for the sack cloth & ashes crowd whathehell Apr 2013 #162

Well Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #71

The fact that there were people clapping and cheering zeemike Apr 2013 #82

That was relief and/or appreciation. Not sporting joy. Union Scribe Apr 2013 #216

All true. As you said, though, they are ignoring the obvious if it doesn't fit their narrative. whathehell Apr 2013 #234

The situation in Boston is desperate, I agree Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #8

LOL, AFTER the safe harbor was lifted. Funny how that worked. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #17

Sure, because who doesn't want to take a stroll through an area with gunfire and bombs going off? whathehell Apr 2013 #30

Yes, they were going off all fucking day. LOL, keep trying. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #52

Ask the inured & the families of the dead if they would have waited "all fucking day" whathehell Apr 2013 #68

Jesus, notice how they CANCELLED it Friday when the asshat was STILL LOOSE! WHY? Why cancel it.... Logical Apr 2013 #76

Sure..Questions like this certainly outweigh values like lives saved and a killer captured, right? whathehell Apr 2013 #89

Once again, if the threat was there all day Friday, why was it not there Friday night? Wow, Logical Apr 2013 #93

Since you clearly don't do subtlety, let me put it in a manner you can understand.. whathehell Apr 2013 #102

Once again. No answer to the question. Let me know when you have one. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #104

Once again..It's a lame question whose answer, whatever it is, won't cut it for you, bro! whathehell Apr 2013 #113

I get it. You got nothing. Nice to see you also think it was silly! n-t Logical Apr 2013 #171

Aw, gee. I'm crushed especially since I DID did get an explanation, lame gage of the BPD as it is. whathehell Apr 2013 #181

I can't answer that, but it was great timing, wasn't it? bornskeptic Apr 2013 #119

Because they figured he'd lost enough blood to be weak and easy to take....and they were right. MADem Apr 2013 #135

Except people were ordered out of their homes. reformist2 Apr 2013 #19

Owell's 1984 Wellstone ruled Apr 2013 #9

More like Huxley's "Brave New World." n/t Ron Green Apr 2013 #21

They're easing us into it. CrispyQ Apr 2013 #10

Both of those existed before this treestar Apr 2013 #77

"liberal board" Some of us may be liberals but it is clear that many on this board are not. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #158

Who the hell is "they"? Who are these people who want to take away our civil liberties? lumpy Apr 2013 #161

"They" seem to include these guys: AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #199

TPTB, the 1%, the corporate elite, the Koch brothers, CrispyQ Apr 2013 #249

Hmmmm GitRDun Apr 2013 #12

there is always an armed killer in your area datasuspect Apr 2013 #32

Oh, please.. whathehell Apr 2013 #38

now you're overcompensating datasuspect Apr 2013 #42

Sure....Anyone with eight posts hidden in 90 days can surely read minds whathehell Apr 2013 #120

Um, no, I don't think so. whathehell Apr 2013 #75

magic puppy delusion land datasuspect Apr 2013 #79

Oh, so that's where you live! whathehell Apr 2013 #95

yeah, i know datasuspect Apr 2013 #100

Lame, bro, very lame. whathehell Apr 2013 #103

cool post bro datasuspect Apr 2013 #111

I'll leave you to the "data". whathehell Apr 2013 #114

Truth. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #160

Is there a kinder, gentler way to search for a terrorist on the loose? mzmolly Apr 2013 #18

Well good for you. I hope you would respect your neighbor's right to keep the door shut. reformist2 Apr 2013 #23

Convenient for terrorists to say "don't allow a search, or else" in your scenario, mzmolly Apr 2013 #27

#54. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #202

#205 mzmolly Apr 2013 #206

You mean respect their right... gcomeau Apr 2013 #46

Indeed whathehell Apr 2013 #33

Agreed. mzmolly Apr 2013 #43

In terms of paranoia whathehell Apr 2013 #238

I agree with your last mzmolly Apr 2013 #259

Thanks. whathehell Apr 2013 #261

Agreed, mzmolly Apr 2013 #262

Ridiculous. distantearlywarning Apr 2013 #20

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #29

Must be board or looking for attention. nobodyspecial Apr 2013 #47

+1000 Bobbie Jo Apr 2013 #192

Actually... this past week I saw a small town in Texas completely destroyed. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2013 #22

Thank you! Newest Reality Apr 2013 #24

This: "we use phrases as we choose and define or expand their meaning as we choose to". CrispyQ Apr 2013 #239

Thanks for the link and response. Newest Reality Apr 2013 #244

I really can't blame the rank and file policeman or other government employee for this. Cleita Apr 2013 #25

"We saw houses raided" Uh, no, we didn't. MineralMan Apr 2013 #26

Thanks for the thoughtful mzmolly Apr 2013 #28

Don't let the facts get in the way of a hyperbolic rant. emulatorloo Apr 2013 #31

I saw a house raided on youtube. The residents really had no choice. reformist2 Apr 2013 #56

Link? MineralMan Apr 2013 #59

Oh please. Most people don't think clearly with guns pointed all over. Anyway, the video: reformist2 Apr 2013 #64

Well that was no friendly may we come in and look around. Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #81

they shut up after you posted the video datasuspect Apr 2013 #87

It? MineralMan Apr 2013 #187

i don't know your gender datasuspect Apr 2013 #188

Right. MineralMan is confusing. MineralMan Apr 2013 #191

Yep, four cops show up on your front porch sylvi Apr 2013 #193

Looks like a drug bust to me. That is an awful lot of adult males for one household alphafemale Apr 2013 #232

I saw several videos. In this one, everyone who came out of the MineralMan Apr 2013 #254

I wonder what the cops would do in that situation mokawanis Apr 2013 #63

Um, yes, we did see them raid homes. Utube is often used now by citizens to record events that might sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #247

See my #254. MineralMan Apr 2013 #255

"if you're not a terrorist, why should you care". That pretty much sums up our society madinmaryland Apr 2013 #34

I have yet to hear of one resident in Watertown who is facing any charges morningfog Apr 2013 #35

What is that Ben Franklin quote? cwydro Apr 2013 #37

Of course, Ben Franklin never had to deal with some asshole putting a pressure cooker bomb at his MADem Apr 2013 #134

Actually, I think that is now a Dick Cheney quote. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #164

One of the arguments gun nuts use is "You can't depend on the police"... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #39

The police themselves say that. nt Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #84

According to the gun nuts. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #96

Here you go and for the record I am not a gun "nut" Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #99

Show me a big city police chief saying people should arm themselves because the cops are useless. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #107

I only gave you a reference that did not come from an average joe Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #189

Like a "bought judge" is unheard of. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #196

Nothing changed. No civil liberties were tossed. gcomeau Apr 2013 #41

The Unbearable Lightness of Being agent46 Apr 2013 #45

When even Manny Goldstein and WillyT nobodyspecial Apr 2013 #48

bullshit (nm) smackd Apr 2013 #49

You don't live in Boston, do ya? cliffordu Apr 2013 #51

+1 FailureToCommunicate Apr 2013 #108

its just a reversion to the mean. galileoreloaded Apr 2013 #53

The long view is rarely popular agent46 Apr 2013 #55

i'm gonna get my kicks in datasuspect Apr 2013 #58

Does this give you warm and fuzzy feelings: avebury Apr 2013 #54

(1) No. (2) It wasn't. (3) If the police had probable cause to assault the house in force (and AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #166

How do you know it wasn't voluntary? mzmolly Apr 2013 #205

I don't know why you pretend Boston was under martial law. Rex Apr 2013 #57

But hey....doesn't it sound...DRAMATIC? MADem Apr 2013 #138

If the "police of greater Boston fulfilled the "To Protect And Serve" role pretty well," maybe some AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #167

Boston's a blue city, and not to put too fine a point on it, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts MADem Apr 2013 #211

Of course the community wanted them caught. Why shouldn't they have wanted that? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #224

You come to Watertown and mouth off like that. MADem Apr 2013 #225

You're a Watertown or Mass resident and you say something as silly and inane as that? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #227

You've got the market on "silly and inane" cornered. I don't have to "bully" you--you're a MADem Apr 2013 #228

You " 'don't' have to bully"? Actually, you can try but nobody bullies me. Not you. Not anyone. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #241

That was a suggestion, not a threat. MADem Apr 2013 #257

What is wrong with you? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #263

By your behavior I shall know you--and your behavior in this MADem Apr 2013 #264

Because I think what you say is unrelated to the facts and you're nuts, I'm putting you on ignore. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #267

Hurrah! Don't go away mad...! Just go away, and all that. nt MADem Apr 2013 #268

I think this is the first time I've ever seen people mad Rex Apr 2013 #172

+1,000 nt MADem Apr 2013 #207

I expect LE to act like this in most every major city under similar circumstances... egduj Apr 2013 #61

The breathe of the lock down was staggering jehop61 Apr 2013 #62

Ironically they didn't find him until the order was lifted alarimer Apr 2013 #65

Yep. With all their home invasions, the police didn't even find him! A civilian did. reformist2 Apr 2013 #66

A civilian who was at home keeping his eyes open why...? nt yewberry Apr 2013 #129

That is ironic treestar Apr 2013 #70

Yes, that magic word, woo me with science Apr 2013 #142

For the TSA to consider a person to be a possible criminal and terrorist based upon complaining, is AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #168

Adding, you would have preferred an endless barrage of "red alerts" followed by attacking mzmolly Apr 2013 #67

seriously... renegade000 Apr 2013 #109

LOL. mzmolly Apr 2013 #115

They were looking for a very dangerous person they knew was out there treestar Apr 2013 #69

you have the perfect attitude for 2013 galileoreloaded Apr 2013 #73

Yeah, well in the "good old days" youngsters were not buying machine guns xtraxritical Apr 2013 #72

Americans are lazy authoritarians whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #78

I was just reminding hubby that McVeigh was simply tried and convicted malaise Apr 2013 #80

You must be joking. Everything that happened in Boston was justified in my mind. geckosfeet Apr 2013 #83

What you said MadHound. zeemike Apr 2013 #85

Yes, I find our response to these tragedies Live and Learn Apr 2013 #90

If your house in on fire, are the firefighters breaking down your door trespassing? baldguy Apr 2013 #92

Oh, the propaganda brigade will not like this thread. woo me with science Apr 2013 #97

What civil rights were violated? SpartanDem Apr 2013 #122

That was so cute. nt woo me with science Apr 2013 #124

Well said. Best post on this thread. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #169

Looks like a great list of accomplishments jsr Apr 2013 #179

They sure don't like it, they're out in force insulting, abusing and hating the truth just1voice Apr 2013 #200

+100 nt Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #219

I'm ok with the curfew but am concerned about involuntary home searches. limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #98

I'm pretty sure the 4th Amendment had more to do with political persecutions... randome Apr 2013 #105

I thought it was people wanted to be able to hide things from the government. limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #127

It's always been legal SpartanDem Apr 2013 #150

Is it used very often? limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #159

I would say it is rare for door to door SpartanDem Apr 2013 #190

Benjamin Franklin Milliesmom Apr 2013 #121

Can't be posted often enough. woo me with science Apr 2013 #126

Benjamin Franklin thought we should stay a colony of England for the longest time, too. MADem Apr 2013 #213

For all the Police State Worshippers out there. Remember this? DeSwiss Apr 2013 #137

x2 AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #170

Are you incapable of both praise and criticism? Union Scribe Apr 2013 #218

I am..... DeSwiss Apr 2013 #229

BRAVO. But "civil liberties be returned"? Not likely, what with those "USA! USA!" cheers (p.i.). WinkyDink Apr 2013 #139

This is exactly how I feel. Our civil liberties have been so eroded since 9/11 and forestpath Apr 2013 #140

Video of people protesting the behavior of the Boston Police ... JoePhilly Apr 2013 #141

They look so oppressed! ellisonz Apr 2013 #178

Keep the citizenry scared and they will be obedient. TeamPooka Apr 2013 #143

Sure, these guys were actually just part of a "plan" by the PTB whathehell Apr 2013 #183

You are putting words in my mouth I did not claim or say Mr. Staw Man.... TeamPooka Apr 2013 #186

I'm sorry if I did that, it wasn't intentional, nonetheless, I'm not convinced that whathehell Apr 2013 #201

A Question (no slant) Rilgin Apr 2013 #144

Two predictions: (1) Some will say that "his actual rights" were "suspended." AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #173

It's none of those SpartanDem Apr 2013 #212

thanks and clarifying Rilgin Apr 2013 #221

Well, we can all count on ONE thing that will never change Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #146

+1! sheshe2 Apr 2013 #245

The K-9 unit failed Chico Man Apr 2013 #147

Jesus Christ, do you HAVE an off button? Arkana Apr 2013 #148

That's important, if true. Please see #54. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #175

Welcome To Revolution - The Right Wing Revolution - Enjoy Remembering Those Freedoms cantbeserious Apr 2013 #151

If this occured in a red state sylvi Apr 2013 #152

This is why the founding fathers worried about political parties - people get way too attached. reformist2 Apr 2013 #155

+1000 forestpath Apr 2013 #165

This is simply ProSense Apr 2013 #154

Well said. But it does appear that a lot of people, even on this board, don't want you or anyone AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #176

Or may simply disagree with the premise... LanternWaste Apr 2013 #250

You are wrong in saying "we are indeed, living in a police state." You are also wrong in suggesting AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #256

Lovely rant. Now, you might have a point if you could show the people jeff47 Apr 2013 #177

Somebody still gets it: AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #180

+1000. A tour de force! reformist2 Apr 2013 #185

Wow, she recommends everyone to be armed nobodyspecial Apr 2013 #195

Wow, you had to deviate from the truth. Not a surprise. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #197

What truth? nobodyspecial Apr 2013 #208

What deviation from the truth? You FALSLY said "she recommends everyone to be armed" AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #223

1st of all, she talks funny, snooper2 Apr 2013 #236

She never said "You're gonna NEED more than a butterknife". Beginning at 0:10 she described AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #246

Are you kidding me? The American public will NEVER demand these civil liberties be returned. Zorra Apr 2013 #182

The erosion continues, uninterrupted sylvi Apr 2013 #194

the making of "All the Prseidents Men" is on now upi402 Apr 2013 #210

I can understand Miranda, but DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #215

+1 Union Scribe Apr 2013 #217

Thank God for the 2nd Amendment! bluedigger Apr 2013 #220

The weapon systems used by the military in the Middle East L.A.dweller Apr 2013 #222

I like you Madhound and we usually agree Marrah_G Apr 2013 #226

Factually false bleating. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #230

I had a rough weekend. Wait Wut Apr 2013 #252

The "trash thread" feature is underused. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #253

"originally intended to be used when a suspect is being hotly pursued" Triana Apr 2013 #233

Please come to Boston sheshe2 Apr 2013 #237

So, ah, what exactly have YOU given up here? graham4anything Apr 2013 #240

I'm expecting them to waterboard the subject once he recovers enough to endure it. L0oniX Apr 2013 #242

Good grief.. what exaggerated over-the-top nonsense. DCBob Apr 2013 #248

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #251

K&R We need to return to the rule of law. End a never ending war midnight Apr 2013 #260

As a woman, I trade liberty for fucking safety every day of my life. El Fuego Apr 2013 #266