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HereSince1628

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42. Yes, it is. And now it is time to move forward

Thu Apr 25, 2013, 05:47 PM

Apr 2013

Many suspects who hold valuable information are offered immunity in return for their cooperation.

IMO it's time to go "all in" and treat him like a citizen. Any evidence he gave prior to a Miranda warning would be accompanied by immunity from prosecution because those statements wouldn't be admissible in his trial.

It's actually ok to give immunity to re-establish what was, before he received the warning. Cheating people out of their rights by purposefully keeping them ignorant of their rights is unbecoming of the greatest democracy on Earth.

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Once Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was read his rights on Monday, he immediately stopped talking [View all] dkf Apr 2013 OP

Oh come on davidpdx Apr 2013 #1

He doesn't have to say a word. There's enough video MADem Apr 2013 #2

+1 magellan Apr 2013 #7

It's his right as an American citizen to remain silent. Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #3

Yes, it is. And now it is time to move forward HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #42

Preumably his lawyers would've told him to stop talking/writing. dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #4

But he didn't have a lawyer yet right? dkf Apr 2013 #5

Probably appointed dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #6

He has some of the best lawyers taxpayer money can buy. MADem Apr 2013 #9

I know a little John2 Apr 2013 #12

Not All Lawyers Are The Same... KharmaTrain Apr 2013 #18

His father can't help him except by providing moral support--if he's even capable of that. MADem Apr 2013 #21

What are the odds a deal would be offered? LiberalAndProud Apr 2013 #39

My sense is a deal would be in the best interests of everyone. MADem Apr 2013 #54

Rehabilitation? BeyondGeography Apr 2013 #28

You seem to be less than satisfied with how the system is set up. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2013 #38

I am not sure what you mean. MADem Apr 2013 #55

Richard Reid is in supermax for life. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #61

If "the banks" were trying to murder people with underwear or shoe bombs, or MADem Apr 2013 #62

don't look at me.... dtom67 Apr 2013 #8

Yeah, I'm against Carmen Miranda rights, too. tclambert Apr 2013 #11

Do the crime, do the time! Now dance with your chicky chicky boom! Heather MC Apr 2013 #17

Now dont be too hasty. Forcing a suspect to wear a fruit hat in prison can get you a confession rhett o rick Apr 2013 #19

What if fruit isn't readily available? A vegetable hat maybe? Would that suffice? bowens43 Apr 2013 #26

He has a right to a hat decorated with fruit, including tropical fruit, and at least three colors anneboleyn Apr 2013 #33

I'm still trying to figure out this "trial balloon" thing. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2013 #56

I think his goose is pretty well cooked based on what he's already told them, video footage, spicegal Apr 2013 #10

If it does "matter in court" it can only help convict him. freedom fighter jh Apr 2013 #13

sort of but not exactly onenote Apr 2013 #16

The real fight and focus of his defense team will be avebury Apr 2013 #14

He won't be offered a plea and the prosecutors will not Vinnie From Indy Apr 2013 #53

Yes, the defense will get their change of venue if they want it. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2013 #57

Even if the move the federal trial, avebury Apr 2013 #59

"Rights are not rights if you can just take 'em away Fearless Apr 2013 #15

^^ Fearless, for the win ^^ Myrina Apr 2013 #20

His rights are still intact Prism Apr 2013 #22

I was critiquing the idea that is floating around the MSM Fearless Apr 2013 #23

Oh, yeah, we agree 100% Prism Apr 2013 #25

No, he was deprived JimDandy Apr 2013 #34

He has the right to request an attorney. Prism Apr 2013 #35

How is he to know that unless JimDandy Apr 2013 #37

Exactly. Prism Apr 2013 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author Moondog Apr 2013 #30

George Carlin on Rights and Privileges Moondog Apr 2013 #31

Miranda doesn't bestow rights. He always had them. nt. Hosnon Apr 2013 #52

The right to an attorney present. Fearless Apr 2013 #58

The defendant has to request an attorney. nt. Hosnon Apr 2013 #60

The defendant needs to know he's allowed one. Fearless Apr 2013 #63

I say wait and see gvstn Apr 2013 #24

Then he definitely JimDandy Apr 2013 #36

A good defense lawyer gvstn Apr 2013 #48

Not really feeling the outrage for this one, unlike many. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #27

After talking for "16 hours"..... louis-t Apr 2013 #29

You won't hear another word from Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #32

As is his right. opiate69 Apr 2013 #41

I suspect your point is he should have been charged Kingofalldems Apr 2013 #43

No, I think this was a successful move and wonder if it will be duplicated. dkf Apr 2013 #44

So you don't think he should have been charged as an enemy combatant? Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #45

I never felt strongly either way about the enemy combatant. dkf Apr 2013 #46

Most Americans are concerned about safety...and we should be able to question people Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #47

Yeah that's also what I feel about guns and abortion. Taking away people's rights is sensitive. dkf Apr 2013 #49

Well that's the way it's been for many years. Kingofalldems Apr 2013 #50

Pictures and video are pure hell. As the murderous young punk will find out. nt bluestate10 Apr 2013 #51