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JDPriestly

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60. That's the way our country developed. Land was cheap. Some of it was simply homesteaded.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 03:45 AM
Apr 2013

The government gave it or sold it for very little to people who were willing to farm it. Government divided the land, maintained a system of records so that people could buy and sell and establish their ownership of the land. The government is sovereign, has the right of eminent domain and can take the land back when it wants if it pays fair value.

The railroads were a public/private partnership. The government gave much of the land, and the private investors built the railroads.

The federal parks that Theodore Roosevelt established on public land across America are the basis for an infrastructure of tourist and travel businesses. People come from around the world to see Yellowstone and other great American parks. The parks are infrastructure. Government investment in those parks inspired many people to start businesses in travel, sports equipment and all kinds of associated businesses. Many individuals and companies profit from the infrastructure that the government saved and keeps safe and enjoyable.

Across America, in our parks, our schools, in our public buildings, on our bridges, we use infrastructure that was built by the Roosevelt administration during the Great Depression. We are a richer country because of those investments.

During the Eisenhower era, the government funded and built a highway system that stretches across the country and connects us all. That infrastructure facilitated trade and, like the railroads, brought the country together. Ask trucking businesses whether government spending on infrastructure helped them start their businesses. The answer is obvious.

Our government investments in early computers and in space exploration led to the internet, to new ways to transmit communications and all kinds of private businesses.

Entrepreneurs feed off the discoveries at universities especially the sciences and humanities. Pharmaceutical companies rely on a lot of basic research done in American public universities and by the NIH.

You might be surprised at how many musicians who make lots of money for the corporations that distribute their records learned to play instruments or sing in school music programs. (Pre-Reagan, there was a lot more music in the schools than there is now.) Same for art. Kids discover their talents in schools, and then they use those talents that they discovered at school in their businesses.

The expression, "use it or lose it" applies to the talents of people as well as their muscles and minds. As a society right now, thanks to austerity and the recession that preceded it, we are not using our skills and our abilities and so we are losing them. We really are. That is why the government needs to step in and spend what it must to keep people using their skills and abilities. Because otherwise those skills and abilities will be lost.

And what destroys creativity, what prevents people from starting businesses is partly the hopelessness of the bad economy but also the sense of inadequacy, of not having the skills and abilities they need to succeed in a business. People also, as others have said, are not starting businesses because demand is weak.

You can't start a small business no matter how good your product or services if your customers can't afford to pay you. People who don't have jobs can't afford to spend money to keep new businesses going.

Government spending on infrastructure and education and job creation in infrastructure and education is probably the only way that we can get our economy moving at this time.

We also need to improve our trade balance by putting the brakes on out-of-control imports.

The Austerians... I mean Austrians... are already attacking Krugman. applegrove Apr 2013 #1
I never doubt Krugman's existence, so I'll go with him! MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #2
My sentiment exactly!!!! citizen blues Apr 2013 #116
Nope curlyred Apr 2013 #3
Stephen Colbert TAKES DOWN Reinhart and Rogoff's AUSTERITY FOREVER Debt Study! KoKo Apr 2013 #4
It worked fine for me zeemike Apr 2013 #30
As only Colbert can.. A great take down.. mountain grammy Apr 2013 #90
I am with Dog all the way. Krugman is a trouble maker. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #5
But I agree with Krugman ... dawg Apr 2013 #69
There is only one Dog that reigns supreme and all others are rhett o rick Apr 2013 #78
The bounty hunter? dawg Apr 2013 #79
If he has a son named Jesus. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #80
I think he has a cousin named Jesus RoccoR5955 Apr 2013 #82
Surrrrrrre. And I suppose he is French. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #83
No, he's from south of the US border somewhere. n/t RoccoR5955 Apr 2013 #98
"Firebagger?" "are you with Krugman, or with God? It's time to choose?" Are You Serious? dballance Apr 2013 #6
Rest assured...."Third Way Manny" is his satiric alter ego abq e streeter Apr 2013 #8
Blowing ever bigger bubbles ozone_man Apr 2013 #7
With respect-God has nothing to do with Economics Robyn66 Apr 2013 #9
What's missing is CONFIDENCE. dkf Apr 2013 #10
The thing is that people just don't understand CONFIDENCE and austerity Dragonfli Apr 2013 #16
Why would government spending inspire people to start a business? dkf Apr 2013 #23
I never said that, I believe that the less money is spent in an economy Dragonfli Apr 2013 #36
Government spending increases orders hence more jobs, increased income tax revenue snappyturtle Apr 2013 #103
I was just being facetious but I am not sure I understand what you are saying. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #106
Horse feathers IrishAyes Apr 2013 #122
And what kind of business would that be? zeemike Apr 2013 #37
First you have to find the money to start it. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #41
That's the way our country developed. Land was cheap. Some of it was simply homesteaded. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #60
+1000 Great post! LongTomH Apr 2013 #92
Well said.. I started a small business for the tourists in my area mountain grammy Apr 2013 #94
Really a TERRIFIC essay, JDPriestly! calimary Apr 2013 #125
I have had clients with businesses based entirely on winning large government contracts. dawg Apr 2013 #72
So if the government is investing in building a new bridge over the Detroit River notadmblnd Apr 2013 #124
Now what do I use to clean the spatter off of this laptop? Fuddnik Apr 2013 #43
depends... is it "confidence splatter" ? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #47
It's already moist with tea spatter. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #88
With all due respect, economic stimulus would probably be first on the list DLnyc Apr 2013 #18
We tried that, hence $1 trillion deficits during the last 4 years. dkf Apr 2013 #24
How much of those yearly budget deficits were a result of economic stimulus? Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #32
We didn't really try very hard. DLnyc Apr 2013 #34
You are very right what is needed are large scale jobs programs. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #52
Those deficits were mostly due to falling revenues, not new spending. dawg Apr 2013 #71
LOL. So how do we increase "confidence" in your opinion? Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #28
The Austerity Fairy and neverforget Apr 2013 #33
Obama thinks like a person interested in getting people off the floor into a better circumstance. dkf Apr 2013 #39
Sorry maybe I wasn't clear Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #45
Obama has only made it more difficult to start a business by giving us confusing laws... dkf Apr 2013 #63
You should write material dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #81
Satire, right? whttevrr Apr 2013 #89
If everyone agreed with this, JDPriestly Apr 2013 #61
Enjoying your family is not what grows a business and is not what will kick this economy into gear. dkf Apr 2013 #62
What grows your business is having customers Fumesucker Apr 2013 #85
Precisely. timdog44 Apr 2013 #100
Why do you think that middle class people work? To be able to provide for their families, JDPriestly Apr 2013 #93
I gotta ask (but you don't have to answer, of course) MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #119
Give the top 0.01% an even larger share of the wealth. nt. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #77
The two age groups most likely to start a new business are people in their 20s and people over 65. happyslug Apr 2013 #31
Right you are. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #56
Not to mention tens of thousands of dollars in debt for tblue37 Apr 2013 #64
Here you go .... dawg Apr 2013 #70
No. sendero Apr 2013 #107
Confidence is a function of aggregate demand. JVS Apr 2013 #108
You're sort of right MFrohike Apr 2013 #123
!! OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #11
Masterful BeyondGeography Apr 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author one_voice Apr 2013 #13
LOL. Well done. Matariki Apr 2013 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author jimlup Apr 2013 #15
Did you know that you can totally remove the word "Krugman" by going SoCalDem Apr 2013 #17
thanks that is really good to know ThomThom Apr 2013 #87
God told me to go with Krugman pennylane100 Apr 2013 #19
The dog ...erm ...Krugman told me to do it. L0oniX Apr 2013 #75
Every woodchuck finds a nut now & then. And be sure to wear gloves taking cats down from trees. nt raouldukelives Apr 2013 #20
LOL n/t RainDog Apr 2013 #21
I agree, Milton Friedman is the one and only true God, keynesians are false prophets Dragonfli Apr 2013 #22
There is but one god and it is Friedman zeemike Apr 2013 #40
. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #49
So is Greenspan an archangel? xtraxritical Apr 2013 #54
“Come, I will show you the judgment of the great prostitute who is seated on many waters, Dragonfli Apr 2013 #57
The US Congress I presume? xtraxritical Apr 2013 #74
No. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #25
ROFL LostOne4Ever Apr 2013 #26
Krugman needs to shave and get a job jsr Apr 2013 #27
Krugman. At least he's real. nt Deep13 Apr 2013 #29
Here ya go: longship Apr 2013 #35
If he was like this, he would have a massive, cult following. LeftInTX Apr 2013 #48
I knew it! Firebagger, EmoProg... AND terrorist! With a beard like Karl Marx. MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #67
I am tired, glad I read to the end before.... nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #38
PK is the only American economist I put ANY trust in whatsoever! Brimley Apr 2013 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author abq e streeter Apr 2013 #44
Robert Reich? nt Deep13 Apr 2013 #46
NAFTA xtraxritical Apr 2013 #55
We would have a trade surplus with Canada and Mexico if we did not import so much oil pampango Apr 2013 #66
Stiglitz? He and Krugman are the only two I read anymore. nt tpsbmam Apr 2013 #110
There you go, messing with my dyslexia again Oilwellian Apr 2013 #50
A good anti-fungal will take care of that right away. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #99
Rec #50 Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #51
K&R thank you Manny! I have to admit my faith was sorely tempted but your post came just in time! idwiyo Apr 2013 #53
My fear is that Thatcher will only be remembered for her miraculous MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #68
lol's you two! Another good one Manny...thanks. KoKo Apr 2013 #73
Manny, I believe you meant to spell that as "hugh." suffragette Apr 2013 #102
I'm a Third Wayer, not a Tea Partier! There's a huge difference! MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #115
Krugman! snot Apr 2013 #58
Oh hell no. donheld Apr 2013 #59
Bravo! nt DLevine Apr 2013 #65
... tosh Apr 2013 #76
And don't forget to give credit to this guy either, he nailed Krugman and all those leftie sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #84
so you have problem with free speech on this site? ThomThom Apr 2013 #86
Of COURSE I'm in favor of free speech!!! MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #96
Poor ignorant warring slaves strengthen rich people jsr Apr 2013 #128
LOL !!! - K & R !!! - Perfect !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #91
I belong ... padruig Apr 2013 #95
Ah, the always provocative irony post Richardo Apr 2013 #97
So, I am less intelligent than you are. timdog44 Apr 2013 #101
more Krugman UNTIL he is listened to by DC politicians mettamega Apr 2013 #104
Krugman is an esteemed professor and a Nobel prize winner. You need to educate yourself. camartinwv Apr 2013 #105
Welcome to DU, camartinwv! tpsbmam Apr 2013 #109
Welcome to DU my friend! hrmjustin Apr 2013 #118
Hee. Hissyspit Apr 2013 #111
Sez Who It's Not Who We Are? You're Offering Up A False Choice IrishAyes Apr 2013 #112
I double-dog dare you MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #114
And while I'm at it... IrishAyes Apr 2013 #113
Manny, I'm confused! Choose Krugman OR God? Like they are two different people? tclambert Apr 2013 #117
This is a ridiculous thread .. I am sorry I even started reading it. Go away Manny. YOHABLO Apr 2013 #120
manny, i'm glad it was third way manny. i almost slammed you after the first few lines. robinlynne Apr 2013 #121
^^THIS^^ I am sick and tired of this one note johnny dumping on our JOB CREATORS! usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #126
Only after the right wing / DLC/ Third way stop pushing their idiocy, repeal the damage they caused on point Apr 2013 #127
Manny, you are a crusader for justice! CTyankee Apr 2013 #129
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