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172. None of that answers my question. YOU accused ME of not doing something and I asked you for

Thu May 2, 2013, 11:47 PM

May 2013

links to what you are talking about. The President should have referred to this day as it is now known, period. He also could point out that this proclamation is outdated and there is no need to sign it now as it is not relevant to today's Labor Force.

But that would take courage, and courage is not something we see much of in DC. So no surprise I suppose, but it would be nice every once in a while to see even a glimmer of it.

Someone will one day have the courage to stand up for the people and simply speak the truth. I think even opponents would respect such a person.

A person who can think for themselves and speak for themselves, a leader iow. Who doesn't just follow protocol especially when it is outdated, irrelevant and insulting to millions of workers, not just here but around the world.

And IF I had seen any OPs regarding this during any administration, I would have commented, negatively, on it.

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Pres.Obama proclaims May 1 as Loyalty Day [View all] dixiegrrrrl May 2013 OP

loyalty is a two way street, homie. datasuspect May 2013 #1

homie? nt ecstatic May 2013 #102

Gotta love the Onion IDemo May 2013 #2

Nope, not the Onion. woo me with science May 2013 #52

I knew that IDemo May 2013 #55

+1 You know the system is sick when you can't even parody it anymore. nt woo me with science May 2013 #59

Interesting take on the growing obsolescence of the Onion... Eleanors38 May 2013 #66

Thanks for the observation, Woo Me with Science. truedelphi May 2013 #213

... warrprayer May 2013 #3

It's consonant with int'l labor day if you read the whole thing frazzled May 2013 #4

It is an explicit denial of class society in America. tralala May 2013 #17

How is it a denial of class society in America? frazzled May 2013 #20

My two cents deutsey May 2013 #25

I second your words. Mira May 2013 #43

Not interested in semantic games tralala May 2013 #26

Me either frazzled May 2013 #32

except who knows that? most think of it G_j May 2013 #65

Well, there you have it. a "day celebrated by the left" gets to hear the "loyalty" message... Eleanors38 May 2013 #70

Why not make it simple and just call it International Labor Day, to remember the struggles of those sabrina 1 May 2013 #159

I entirely agree. n/t ocpagu May 2013 #184

I find it a very empty gesture. And insulting to labor. forestpath May 2013 #5

it's a curious (anti-labor and/or anti-Communist) tradition foo_bar May 2013 #6

My iniital impression was correct dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #31

Replacing May Day with Law Day was bad enough. rug May 2013 #7

+1 Blue_Tires May 2013 #10

+ + byeya May 2013 #24

Yes, why this trip to May 1 Mecca to regularly pay homage to what it doesn't mean? Eleanors38 May 2013 #73

36 U.S.C. § 115: (a) Designation.— May 1 is Loyalty Day. IT IS A FUCKING LAW. DevonRex May 2013 #75

First enacted in 1921 on the heels of the Palmer Raids and the "Red Scare". rug May 2013 #98

Whatever, dude. nt DevonRex May 2013 #99

"statutory propaganda." dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #207

Meh magellan May 2013 #8

You mean now Corporations are going to be loyal to their employees? Myrina May 2013 #9

No, it's Obama's way of showing loyalty to his corporate masters. nt Demo_Chris May 2013 #16

OBAMA DID NOT PASS THIS LAW. CONGRESS DID. DevonRex May 2013 #76

+1! sheshe2 May 2013 #109

Ah, yes, but the KING BARACK crowd WILL find a way to paint it in a negative light AND blame it all MADem May 2013 #150

Hey, I love the video! DevonRex May 2013 #155

I hear ya! nt MADem May 2013 #158

Don't confuse me with facts! Demo_Chris May 2013 #164

That is the sweetest thing DevonRex May 2013 #173

Sounds like one hell of a bad day... tomorrow should be better. nt Demo_Chris May 2013 #175

"Patriotism is voluntary. It is a feeling of loyalty and allegiance that is the result of knowledge bemildred May 2013 #11

Reagan'st 1st proclamation (1981) of "Loyalty Day" Melinda May 2013 #12

JFK's last one before he was murdered...Proclamation 3528 - Loyalty Day, 1963 April 18, 1963 MADem May 2013 #212

I find it alarming. enlightenment May 2013 #13

Yup. Creepy as hell. woo me with science May 2013 #51

It was passed into LAW in the 1950s. DevonRex May 2013 #77

Yes - we did a lot of truly enlightenment May 2013 #84

It has been done every single year since passage. He didn't "dust it off" DevonRex May 2013 #88

"Requested", DevonRex enlightenment May 2013 #90

Oh good fucking lord. Some people. nt DevonRex May 2013 #92

Since you're reduced to sputtering enlightenment May 2013 #97

Some people here wouldn't be satisfied unless the President acted like a petulant child. tritsofme May 2013 #105

... Number23 May 2013 #112

What President is going to make the choice of taking a stand treestar May 2013 #197

Can you believe this shit? treestar May 2013 #113

As God is my witness, DevonRex May 2013 #117

Yup... SidDithers May 2013 #120

Yup. DevonRex May 2013 #122

Amazing that no one yelled at "Dumbya"...ain't it? MADem May 2013 #151

Yep that is quite interesting treestar May 2013 #195

This message was self-deleted by its author DevonRex May 2013 #86

There are lots of "laws" that pervert other concepts. Doesn't make it "right", nt JanMichael May 2013 #106

Funny, that. Since it originates in the 1950s and was NOT invented by Obama. kestrel91316 May 2013 #111

He really has no clue. ozone_man May 2013 #136

What an utter disaster this guy is. nt Poll_Blind May 2013 #14

I know--when he took the Presidential Time Machine back to 1959 and made May 1 'Loyalty Day,' I was msanthrope May 2013 #95

You win the thread--hilarious!!!! MADem May 2013 #178

Loyalty day? I think it's Obama's way of telling his supporters where HIS loyalties lie. nt Demo_Chris May 2013 #15

Vomiting now Coyotl May 2013 #18

corporate shill, for sure SammyWinstonJack May 2013 #60

Loyalty Day dates back to 1921 LiberalEsto May 2013 #19

Interesting that even tho it was made a law in 1958... dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #41

Obama has proclaimed it every year that he's been in office fishwax May 2013 #68

Thanks n/t War Horse May 2013 #82

was used to oppose people who protested the Vietnam war. G_j May 2013 #48

Well, this is 2013. Time to move forward. The 'commies' are over, although some people do live sabrina 1 May 2013 #160

Absolutely LiberalEsto May 2013 #194

May 1 is Beltane and no government proclamation can change that magical thyme May 2013 #21

I have to confess I do not know what Beltane is. dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #124

one of the 8 Great Sabbats of wiccan and pagan religions magical thyme May 2013 #129

a dim memnory is stirring.... dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #130

some of the other Sabbats may help jog your memory.... magical thyme May 2013 #135

The GOP responded by introducing a bill designating May 2 as 11 Bravo May 2013 #22

And this is May 2nd. GMTA. freshwest May 2013 #145

I'll stick with International Labor Day and celebrating spring n/t deutsey May 2013 #23

It's a fitting move. vi5 May 2013 #27

Fuck that shit obama...... bowens43 May 2013 #28

This is a law passed in the 1950s. Good God. nt DevonRex May 2013 #78

Wait..wait. He's actually serious about this nonsense? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #29

Actually and very publicly serious, it seems. dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #37

I prefer this version for May Day. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #40

This was passed into law in the 1950s. But somebody here decided to DevonRex May 2013 #80

You certainly are in a froth about this. enlightenment May 2013 #89

LOL. Read my reply up there. nt DevonRex May 2013 #91

I did. enlightenment May 2013 #93

Every President has done it every year since 1960 treestar May 2013 #114

Pot and kettle. enlightenment May 2013 #134

For God's sake, READ and stop spouting inanities Number23 May 2013 #116

Absolutely correct, this is way outdated, definitely time to move forward. After we are able to sabrina 1 May 2013 #161

Shouldn't he have said, "what's left of our Constitution?" nt City Lights May 2013 #30

Obama is the guy who when truedelphi May 2013 #215

.......... Marrah_G May 2013 #33

As Orwellian as "homeland" MindPilot May 2013 #34

Sad that come every Presidential election day truedelphi May 2013 #222

Oh... BARF !!! WillyT May 2013 #35

I thought this was a joke. bunnies May 2013 #36

But...but...N.Korea does not have all the rights and "freedoms" that we did.. dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #38

& I especially love our new freedom... bunnies May 2013 #39

If it's supposed to be a sop to the right, the irony is it will probably make them freak out. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #42

Oh you know it! This will have a complete other meaning to the Teabaggers! Rex May 2013 #45

There's a lesson in there, somewhere Warren DeMontague May 2013 #46

sort of feels like the left is getting poked in the eye G_j May 2013 #44

I'm so use to it now that it hardly registers anymore. Rex May 2013 #47

in particular, this feels like a deliberate G_j May 2013 #49

Yeah I think it is. Rex May 2013 #50

Why would the president need to poke "the left" in the eye Number23 May 2013 #118

He intends to keep poking us in the eyes until we're blind to what he's doing DJ13 May 2013 #54

fucking sick shit cali May 2013 #53

I'm not really a fan of loyalty day, but Obama didn't designate it such fishwax May 2013 #56

I know, but why is it now A PROCLAMATION ? G_j May 2013 #57

there's been a proclamation every year for the past 50+ years fishwax May 2013 #63

interesting G_j May 2013 #69

yeah, it's a weird thing. I don't think I've ever thought about it outside of DU fishwax May 2013 #128

that was a trip G_j May 2013 #131

Thanks to you and the others redqueen May 2013 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author DevonRex May 2013 #83

Tell ya what..I will change the headline... dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #110

I'll stick with International Worker's Day. Luminous Animal May 2013 #58

+1. grntuscarora May 2013 #153

I think as highly of Loyalty Day truebluegreen May 2013 #61

"Loyalty day" my arse idwiyo May 2013 #62

FYI ProSense May 2013 #64

LOL, that's gonna sink like a rock. n/t winter is coming May 2013 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author Marr May 2013 #71

36 U.S.C. § 115: (a) Designation.— May 1 is Loyalty Day. IT IS A FUCKING LAW. DevonRex May 2013 #74

WTF????? Taverner May 2013 #79

This was passed in the 1950s ferchrisake. Eisenhower proclaimed it. DevonRex May 2013 #81

WTF??? Jesus FUCK we are still suffering from McCarthyism! Taverner May 2013 #141

Every single President, every single year has made this proclamation. DevonRex May 2013 #143

No, I'm just sick of the way McCarthyism and Blue Laws have stayed kicking and screaming Taverner May 2013 #147

How quaint. Earth_First May 2013 #85

When I was a kid my only question about Loyalty Day would be tularetom May 2013 #87

Do we care about 'facts' any more or are we becoming factless anti-republicans. pampango May 2013 #94

I just posted that he had signed the Proclamation... dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #100

Much of GD hasn't cared about facts for a while Number23 May 2013 #119

Read what you wrote nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #140

1959... SidDithers May 2013 #96

My loyalty always has and always will be to the international working class.... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #101

Do not like. Matariki May 2013 #103

'now go die for corporate profits' nt markiv May 2013 #104

'2 minutes loyalty' every day, would be better markiv May 2013 #107

I think YOU get a FAIL for not correcting your misleading post when it has been pointed out kestrel91316 May 2013 #108

+1 treestar May 2013 #115

Obama signed it. No one forced him to. I must as such take it as part and parcel of his intent. n/t Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #186

You are obviously truly outraged Summer Hathaway May 2013 #190

What kind of argument is that? ocpagu May 2013 #193

It isn't an argument. Summer Hathaway May 2013 #206

Now see, it was not a problem before this year! treestar May 2013 #198

Loyalty 4 what? Stagnant Wages? Unemployment? Corporate Profits? Homelessness? Banks? War? Torture? Catherina May 2013 #121

Oh, go ahead and PRETEND you haven't seen this has been DEBUNKED all over the thread. DevonRex May 2013 #125

In Lancaster PA where I grew up May 1 has always been Loyalty Day MadrasT May 2013 #123

That's very sad. ocpagu May 2013 #192

Deeply disturbing Addison May 2013 #126

Your concern is noted. Please feel free to share more of your concerns, and enjoy your stay. nt msanthrope May 2013 #127

Thanks, I will Addison May 2013 #132

Ms. is indicative of transgender? You enjoy your stay! nt msanthrope May 2013 #138

Ms. = Miss, and anthropos = man; thus your username means Miss Man Addison May 2013 #209

ROFL Oilwellian May 2013 #210

Welcome to DU. dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #137

Was the loyalty oath to him or the Federal Reserve Bank? Safetykitten May 2013 #133

With Americans and immigrants taking to the streets nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #139

Call it what it is. Arctic Dave May 2013 #142

Certainly sounds as if a 60 something year old law has become very outdated. dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #144

When all else fails, wave the flag and look constipated with patriotic sincerity. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #146

Happy McCarthy Death Day - May 2nd!!! LeftInTX May 2013 #148

Every day on DU is now proclaimed to be Obama Outrage Day. JoePhilly May 2013 #149

What I LOVE ABOUT THIS THREAD!!!!!!!! MADem May 2013 #154

very true. nt JoePhilly May 2013 #156

Oh stop. This is 2013 and a near century year old law is what people are using to defend the use of sabrina 1 May 2013 #162

Do point us to your threads of complaint about this proclamation in years past. MADem May 2013 #166

Why don't you link to whatever it is you are rambling on about? IF I had seen this in the past sabrina 1 May 2013 #167

You need to read the thread--there's no need for links. MADem May 2013 #168

None of that answers my question. YOU accused ME of not doing something and I asked you for sabrina 1 May 2013 #172

"Law" isn't optional. It's the law of the land. You'd certainly pitch a fit if Dumbya flouted the MADem May 2013 #177

.. Number23 May 2013 #191

King Barack should just use the bully pulpit to get this changed treestar May 2013 #202

People you voted for like Eisenhower? treestar May 2013 #201

Nailed it. nt Bobbie Jo May 2013 #165

Why thank you, Bobbie Jo! nt MADem May 2013 #169

Oh, you are SO right! Summer Hathaway May 2013 #181

What it is!!! +1000! nt MADem May 2013 #183

MADem, I have to say that you are TOTALLY enjoying yourself in this thread and the others Number23 May 2013 #189

We've got just a few choices, here! MADem May 2013 #211

'absurd pomposity' is just about the most adequate word I can think of to describe these folks Number23 May 2013 #220

It's always worse between election years, too. MADem May 2013 #221

This thread is indeed the tipping point for the preponderance of the evidence treestar May 2013 #200

Heck, today must be really short on outrages! treestar May 2013 #199

Personally it too close to the "Loyality oaths" Republicans in W Administration tried diabeticman May 2013 #152

Fuck that shit. Fantastic Anarchist May 2013 #157

I don't care how May 1 came to be called "Loyalty Day," Brigid May 2013 #163

Why not get off your butt and work to repeal the law that requires the proclamation, instead MADem May 2013 #170

Did you read the part where I said . . . Brigid May 2013 #179

Your very post belies that assertion. I'd say you DO care, if you bother to gripe about it. nt MADem May 2013 #180

Only if May 2-April 31st get to be "Critical Thinking Days". wickerwoman May 2013 #171

Thanks for that great observation, wickerwoman. n/t truedelphi May 2013 #217

I'm not a fan of "Loyalty Day" myself Cali_Democrat May 2013 #174

What do I think of Loyalty Day? Blue_In_AK May 2013 #176

Blatant, utterly sickening attempt to make us forget May 1 is WORKER'S RIGHTS DAY! Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #182

Ever heard of "Labor Day"? Summer Hathaway May 2013 #187

That's just ProSense May 2013 #196

Forget worker's rights day. FORGET. FORGET. Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #185

Really?? We forget Labor Day?? Maybe you do. nt msanthrope May 2013 #203

I'm all for it. The proclamation says it perfectly. NYC Liberal May 2013 #188

Loyalty to who? darkangel218 May 2013 #204

"Loyalty Day" KG May 2013 #205

Loyalty to whom? marshall May 2013 #208

So Pres Obama, one question, if you would, Sir: truedelphi May 2013 #214

BTW, at the risk of repeating myself: truedelphi May 2013 #216

Here, ProSense May 2013 #218

I think that you totally misread my statements. truedelphi May 2013 #219