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(14,923 posts) Sat May 4, 2013, 11:00 AM May 2013

Egyptian TV Host Riham Said REMOVES VEIL During Interview, CLASHES With Guest Cleric Yousuf Badri [View all]

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"…..I would have accepted it if it was in order to make me please Allah,….But, off-the-air, YOU have NO problem talking to me without the Hijab……..and then, when the viewers can see, YOU make me wear it?!..."

"….I feel like I am playacting when I put this scarf on. - Let's start the show.

"….Change the subject, and put on that Hijab!……….I'm not going to put it on. I will wear it for God, not for you…."

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Egyptian TV Host Riham Said REMOVES VEIL During Interview, CLASHES With Guest Cleric Yousuf Badri [View all] Segami May 2013 OP

How long until the "feminists" demand we stop being Western Imperialists for cheering this woman! backscatter712 May 2013 #1

link? bettyellen May 2013 #4

Used to be here... backscatter712 May 2013 #7

oh, so you were airing personal issues with something ONE DUer might have said, thanks! bettyellen May 2013 #9

Here's another one. backscatter712 May 2013 #12

a small number -like one? that is the same DUer. And that is a well written, very reasonable post. bettyellen May 2013 #13

I insult Islam because Islam insults women. I make no apologies. backscatter712 May 2013 #15

Insulting fellow DUers, smearing feminists here with this bullshit that is actually a grudge against bettyellen May 2013 #21

Whatever. backscatter712 May 2013 #24

just sorting out the nonsense that this is any more than some fight with one DUer you got going on bettyellen May 2013 #28

+1 BuddhaGirl May 2013 #46

It is precisely this immature and bombastic approach that makes people take issue with... bettyellen May 2013 #55

What do you do when you see injustice? Confront it. backscatter712 May 2013 #57

civil disobedience is great, saying you totally disrespect entire populations of humanity- that you bettyellen May 2013 #61

Keep putting words in my mouth. backscatter712 May 2013 #62

Why did you put feminists in quotes? nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #63

Because they demanded that FEMEN and Amina stop protesting in the way they felt was right. backscatter712 May 2013 #64

So, I'm not misrepresenting your position. ZombieHorde May 2013 #66

When they're telling a woman protesting for her rights to sit down and shut up, that's misogyny. backscatter712 May 2013 #67

talk about whether methods of protests are wise and useful happens all the fucking time among bettyellen May 2013 #72

Well said! redqueen May 2013 #82

the whole Femen thing was manufactured as an excuse for some guys here to administer a feminist bettyellen May 2013 #90

You are right, it was manufactured by few self-proclaimed "feminists" here to dictate what idwiyo May 2013 #94

"That and "them pig-man want to look at TITTIES"!!!!!,,11,,,!!!" Scootaloo May 2013 #133

YAY!!! Another person who think they have telepathic powers! How come you didn't notice some of them idwiyo May 2013 #164

OMG, I didnt see that before now. So certain men on DU made up Femen and Amina?!?!? ROFLMAO! stevenleser May 2013 #177

Would be nice if you learnt the difference between anti-Muslim and anti-Islamist. That is if you idwiyo May 2013 #112

link to these "demands" please... bettyellen May 2013 #74

exactly, I love it when guys do that. LOL. bettyellen May 2013 #73

+100 LiberalLovinLug May 2013 #75

And once again you misrepresent what was actually said. Poster did not say "all" DUers and they idwiyo May 2013 #107

Every patriarchal religion insults women. Confessed to a Catholic priestess lately? aquart May 2013 #105

Can't say that I have. You've got a good point there. backscatter712 May 2013 #106

you can't even *spell* atheist. HiPointDem May 2013 #129

The real test of sexism: what happens to a woman who 'chooses' not to adhere to a 'holy' dress code. ancianita May 2013 #135

Yep. Apophis May 2013 #44

Same poster told me I was a bigot if I could not see that the Catholic Chruch is a 'haven for gay Bluenorthwest May 2013 #65

Yep. We both know how this poster operates. n/t backscatter712 May 2013 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author HiPointDem May 2013 #127

there's a chain of deletions by two posters, fairly obviously they both chose to delete an exchange HiPointDem May 2013 #128

I applaud and support her calling out this cleric's hypocrisy & bullshit. Segami May 2013 #5

When we see a similar pushback against Christian ministers and priests here on women issues. Skidmore May 2013 #10

Takes a real man to tell women how to be real feminists, huh? ZombieHorde May 2013 #16

Some of us were encouraging Amina and FEMEN when they did their protests. backscatter712 May 2013 #17

If there is one thing Amina and FEMEN need, it's a man's approval for their way of thinking. ZombieHorde May 2013 #20

Who was telling them how they should and shouldn't protest? backscatter712 May 2013 #22

"How long until the 'feminists' demand we..." ZombieHorde May 2013 #33

It wasn't the (non-scare-quoted) feminists that were demanding that Amina put her hijab back on. backscatter712 May 2013 #58

links to DUers telling Amina to sit down and shut up please.... and hopefully there will be text bettyellen May 2013 #87

Every single one of self-proclaimed "REAL" feminists who was up in arms because FEMEN protest idwiyo May 2013 #95

no links, because it's inflammatory bullshit designed to smear good DUErs. bettyellen May 2013 #96

Yes, I am ashamed for you. idwiyo May 2013 #98

You've seen it already muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #114

saying you are "not shockingly grateful" does NOT equal "shut up and sit down"- not by ANY stretch.. bettyellen May 2013 #139

calling it a 'stunt' and claiming to be concerned about it affecting Tunisian elections muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #144

I totally think it was a stunt, but I support her RIGHT to do it. See how that works? bettyellen May 2013 #146

When did whether it's a 'right' come into this? This is about telling her muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #148

having an opinion about it, is NOT the same as telling her to sit down and shut up at all. bettyellen May 2013 #150

I can see you're embarrassed by DUers being the westerners telling Amina what she should do muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #151

no, I think it's a great topic for debate. and that many here are full of shit portraying it as bettyellen May 2013 #153

I did an experiment with a thread, demonstrating how UNconcerned DUers really are riderinthestorm May 2013 #152

aww, a bit jealous your thread got so little attention? I've also heard women here were jealous of bettyellen May 2013 #154

Jealous?! What a laugh. That thread demonstrated PRECISELY my point. riderinthestorm May 2013 #155

well jealousy about not getting attention was on your mind when posting about your sunken thread.... bettyellen May 2013 #156

I repeat, that thread did EXACTLY as I predicted. riderinthestorm May 2013 #168

you seriously think the number of replies your thread got says anything about anyone here? bettyellen May 2013 #170

well, approval and interest from men is paramount! if we don't please them by showing our tits then bettyellen May 2013 #25

Ha! nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #35

Please keep putting words in our mouths. backscatter712 May 2013 #59

show us the links of people "demanding" Amina put her top on. bettyellen May 2013 #91

They are very skilful of creating their own imaginary fiends. Or making up stuff about idwiyo May 2013 #97

Rule #1 when dealing with these characters: Call out their tactics. n/t backscatter712 May 2013 #102

Men weren't the only ones defending Amina and FEMEN RainDog May 2013 #26

I am not painting it as women vs. men. ZombieHorde May 2013 #34

so you're telling men to sit down and shut up? RainDog May 2013 #39

I think they were explaining we don't need to seek their approval and get a pat on the back. bettyellen May 2013 #41

I never saw a single man do that related to this issue RainDog May 2013 #42

no, just dozens of guys offering their approval and patting a feminist on the back for the first bettyellen May 2013 #78

really? RainDog May 2013 #80

truly, for some- this has been just a fun way of nursing their grudges. bettyellen May 2013 #85

There you go again. Presenting your ASSumptions as facts. Shameful. idwiyo May 2013 #100

not talking to you. why would I bother when you make accusations that you cannot back up? bettyellen May 2013 #101

Of course you don't want to talk to *me*. Last time you didn't either. You talked to your imaginary idwiyo May 2013 #103

well... RainDog May 2013 #123

I agree with you that a lot of people were caught in that weird crossfire bettyellen May 2013 #145

thanks for sharing your thoughts RainDog May 2013 #157

we surely agree there are too many personal attacks. bettyellen May 2013 #161

So, any man who stands with Amina or FEMEN are "patting a feminist on the back"? You sure idwiyo May 2013 #118

dozens= any man? seriously idwiyo- do you even think before posting? bettyellen May 2013 #138

My bad! Read it as "any man out of the dozens you are talking about". Is that better? :) idwiyo May 2013 #166

Consider the following two phrases from a non-Democrat: ZombieHorde May 2013 #49

Yup, which is exactly what male posters here do when they call us "feminists".... what bullshit. bettyellen May 2013 #51

Thank you for taking the time to explain this. redqueen May 2013 #69

I've had women tell me I'm not a real feminist RainDog May 2013 #77

Unfortunately, many groups eat their own. ZombieHorde May 2013 #92

and many just love an opportunity to exploit these differences of opinion for sport bettyellen May 2013 #99

I think the underlying point, which you have brought up here is The Straight Story May 2013 #108

except quite a few of Amina's most ardent supporters were faking it- they could not hazard a guess bettyellen May 2013 #111

More ASSumptions. How do you know they were "faking it"? Telepathic mind read? Or more likely idwiyo May 2013 #113

So, if Alan Keyes called out someone who was white RainDog May 2013 #121

Identity and policy are two different things. ZombieHorde May 2013 #140

so we're in agreement that men who have an opinion RainDog May 2013 #159

Yes, unless the opinion also involves telling women how to be proper feminists. ZombieHorde May 2013 #162

If someone thinks that religious dictates do not allow women choice RainDog May 2013 #165

When a man refers to some women feminists as feminists, and other women feminists as "feminists," ZombieHorde May 2013 #167

I think that came about RainDog May 2013 #169

In my opinion, those are valid disagreements on issues and tactics. ZombieHorde May 2013 #172

Please keep distorting my statements and putting words in my mouth! n/t backscatter712 May 2013 #60

I think we established that I have neither distorted your position nor put words in your mouth. nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #83

Let's see - accusing me of being racist against a billion people, backscatter712 May 2013 #86

I have not accused anyone here of being racist, and I have not mentioned Mardi Gras. ZombieHorde May 2013 #93

Not you specifically. But another person did, and made a spectacular ass of herself. n/t backscatter712 May 2013 #104

Femen appreciates support from their supporters. nt stevenleser May 2013 #110

That has nothing to do with what I was saying, but thanks for sharing. nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #116

Oh yes it does. nt stevenleser May 2013 #117

Then you have no idea what I'm saying. nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #137

The problem is that you have no idea what you are saying. You're making it up as you go along stevenleser May 2013 #178

Please point out something bad I have said about FEMEN and their supporters. ZombieHorde May 2013 #179

There is no conspiracy by male DUers to dictate to anyone who is and isn't a feminist. idwiyo May 2013 #125

I have not made any conspiracy claims. ZombieHorde May 2013 #141

I agree with you about forcing them to wear it. Cleita May 2013 #36

muslims kardonb May 2013 #53

I was being sarcastic. backscatter712 May 2013 #54

What the hell are you talking about? efhmc May 2013 #142

Hijab SamKnause May 2013 #2

Well done! good to see the hypocrisy exposed. bettyellen May 2013 #3

Doesn't that cleric look like the Muslim version of Pat Robertson? backscatter712 May 2013 #6

LOL! Segami May 2013 #8

Yes, he does! Newest Reality May 2013 #30

I couldn't have said it better myself! n/t backscatter712 May 2013 #70

He only mistake when she walked off is Auntie Bush May 2013 #11

I thought about that too, or pulling that hat off his head. Costumes signifying nothing. freshwest May 2013 #88

Burn all the bras and hijabs. randome May 2013 #14

Please add hobbling stiletto heels to that list. Skidmore May 2013 #19

I really wish we could discard all this pointless packaging and try to see each other, instead. randome May 2013 #31

^THIS RIGHT HERE. +100,000,000,000,000 LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #119

I have refused to wear those for fifty years. n/t Cleita May 2013 #37

Not the bras. I like mine, thanks. DevonRex May 2013 #56

No offense, then. I meant metaphorically, of course. randome May 2013 #89

The bottom line is that it's demeaning and stupid and ridiculous. reformist2 May 2013 #18

she made a wonderful point that if she covered up, it would be for God, and not him. bettyellen May 2013 #32

"I will wear it for god, not for you." No 'if'. redqueen May 2013 #71

there are lesbian muslims who wear the hijab JI7 May 2013 #171

Brava! RainDog May 2013 #23

Save us from the clerics Liberal In Texas May 2013 #27

I like her last lines about peddling lunasun May 2013 #29

"No, I am the one who is leaving" GiveMeFreedom May 2013 #38

He needs to go to his heaven and have those 72 virgins promised him Cleita May 2013 #40

She exposed his hypocrisy and I'm glad. Apophis May 2013 #43

Nicely done, Riham Said! n/t ljm2002 May 2013 #45

Wow wow wow. I love this woman!!!!!! dkf May 2013 #47

I think I just fell in love with this woman Blue Palasky May 2013 #48

Carry on my lady. blackspade May 2013 #50

she is awesome! rollin74 May 2013 #52

in your FACE, old man! Kali May 2013 #76

A real journalist Paulie May 2013 #79

Listen to that fucking asshole blathering "Haram! Haram! Haram! Haram!" MADem May 2013 #81

She's great. Called on his foolishness, he plays the victim! Typical blowhard conservative tantrum. freshwest May 2013 #84

LOL! 1+ Segami May 2013 #124

K&R BRAVO! idwiyo May 2013 #109

What a brave woman Generic Other May 2013 #115

Well done her! in my humble Western imperialist warmongering opinion n/t LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #120

way to deliberately misunderstand an argument BainsBane May 2013 #122

congrats to you RainDog May 2013 #158

I'm too tired and too high for arguments LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #173

She tried to get me ppr'd when I got tired of her lies RainDog May 2013 #174

1) not a veil. 2) apparently what she did was ok with the tv station. 3) this seems to be HiPointDem May 2013 #126

One undeniable fact is that FEMEN raised consciousness of this issue and helped bring light to it. Bonobo May 2013 #130

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #131

he got angry when she brought up how he got paid to appear on the show JI7 May 2013 #132

Just as women in this country have had to carve out their own freedom. alphafemale May 2013 #134

religion heaven05 May 2013 #136

A wonderful video of a woman standing up for her rights.... Marrah_G May 2013 #143

+10000000. nt riderinthestorm May 2013 #149

Poor little man. gtar100 May 2013 #147

fucking awesome smackdown. i love how she handles him.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #160

Good for her! nt Honeycombe8 May 2013 #163

How terrible this thread was hijacked by a foolish first comment. JackRiddler May 2013 #175

I'm not sure that qualifies as hijacking. Its an extremely similar topic. stevenleser May 2013 #176