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madfloridian

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36. Survey doesn't include ones who were refused service or couldn't afford copay.
Tue May 14, 2013, 12:14 PM
May 2013

Last edited Tue May 14, 2013, 10:19 PM - Edit history (2)

During this time, during these years leading up to 2017 when the Obama administration's proposed $100 copay for each home health care visit will kick in....many will be like this man yesterday. Just not receiving services.

From the article....they did not include those who were refused service or could not afford the copay.

http://hamptonroads.com/2013/05/medicare-costs-way-down-companies-worry

Federal health officials say it saved more than $200 million in its first year. They reported high levels of satisfaction from beneficiaries and no increases in hospitalizations, emergency room visits or other undesirable outcomes in the areas served by the program, according to a report last year from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.

The number of people receiving some types of equipment declined. Medicare leaders said that could be because the new system routed out potential fraud or because the new system affected claims-processing timelines.

The Government Accountability Office called the results incomplete, though, noting that the measures didn’t show whether patients received needed equipment on time or whether their health suffered if they didn’t.


More about the home health care copay....many will not be able to afford it.

http://homehealthcarenews.com/2013/05/home-care-advocates-ready-to-fight-co-pays-again/

The Obama Administration’s FY 2014 budget proposes a co-payment of $100 per home health episode for new Medicare beneficiaries, applying to episodes with five or more visits not preceded by a hospital or other inpatient post-acute stay.

While the proposal would not kick in for new Medicare enrollees until 2017 if implemented, home health professionals are already wary the law would drive patients to costlier care settings.

For seniors living on limited or fixed incomes, co-pays for home health services could cause them to forego care, says Kyle Simon, government affairs director of the Home Care Association of Florida.

“In extreme cases, beneficiaries with chronic conditions could opt to move into more expensive institutions like nursing homes, further stressing state Medicaid budgets,” says Simon.


That was written by a Kaiser reporter on 4-15--3 upaloopa May 2013 #1
It means elderly sick people won't get needed services or items. madfloridian May 2013 #5
Your reply makes me think you don't have the upaloopa May 2013 #19
You think I have an axe to grind? Really? madfloridian May 2013 #22
Playing Hardball With Human Lives grilled onions May 2013 #2
Seniors really are pawns right now. madfloridian May 2013 #6
The other issue in this case is we're talking about Medicare Advantage, pnwmom May 2013 #13
Exactly GCP May 2013 #24
I suspect we are going to see more of this. Turbineguy May 2013 #3
If the GOP TheFutureWillCome May 2013 #27
Perhaps murder is a strong word Turbineguy May 2013 #48
You must be thinking of a different law. former9thward May 2013 #51
Gonna be a lawsuit..discrimination towards "new" Medicare recipients dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #4
Such a change from the 90s.. madfloridian May 2013 #7
I have to admit I know very little about how Medicare works davidpdx May 2013 #21
Before Bush "reformed" it, it was easy. joeunderdog May 2013 #62
k&r Starry Messenger May 2013 #8
Thanks. madfloridian May 2013 #10
Ready for school to be over. Starry Messenger May 2013 #18
K&R nt Mnemosyne May 2013 #9
Thanks. madfloridian May 2013 #11
It is very alarming, mad. When the prescription plan changed for medicare, I was in line behind Mnemosyne May 2013 #54
Isn't Medicare Advantage the private alternative that's more expensive than regular Medicare? pnwmom May 2013 #12
There are reasons some use it. madfloridian May 2013 #14
But should the government be subsidizing private plans that cost more pnwmom May 2013 #15
Not really. madfloridian May 2013 #16
I think that oxygen supply guy was just shooting a line of bull anyway. pnwmom May 2013 #17
It is well known in the medical community that Medicare will vastly "overpay" for services without cbdo2007 May 2013 #20
Yes, I am well aware of that. I wonder if that man and others like him really care... madfloridian May 2013 #23
Are you learning new things? snooper2 May 2013 #32
No, just caring about the vulnerable. madfloridian May 2013 #34
Times are changing. Now we defend cuts that harm a sick man? madfloridian May 2013 #25
As I understand it, the cuts have not taken effect yet riqster May 2013 #31
See posts 35 and 36 madfloridian May 2013 #38
I don't think the Medicare cuts are what is harming a sick man. pnwmom May 2013 #49
I believe the benefit cuts will do great harm. madfloridian May 2013 #50
Do you think that oxygen suppliers should be able to charge a lot more pnwmom May 2013 #60
No, of course I do not think that. madfloridian May 2013 #65
I'm not assuming anything about the financial means of Medicare patients. pnwmom May 2013 #68
Wait, he refused now for a plan that kicks in next year? He's going to lose beaucoup money. nolabear May 2013 #26
Because he can. madfloridian May 2013 #29
Cool story, bro. nt msanthrope May 2013 #28
I'm not a bro. madfloridian May 2013 #30
Well, 'bro' is used here as a gender-neutral noun...like, 'hey guys' said to a msanthrope May 2013 #33
Well I have another "cool story" for you. unapatriciated May 2013 #55
It takes effect next month? Why not post the letter, without your identifying information? msanthrope May 2013 #57
I'm 61 and in no position to look for another job, so no I will not post the letter unapatriciated May 2013 #59
I'm not suggesting you lied. I'm suggesting you shame your company by msanthrope May 2013 #61
Sorry I have to disagree unapatriciated May 2013 #63
I am with you on that. madfloridian May 2013 #66
Everyone knows now that you have contempt for me and my "fairy tales". madfloridian May 2013 #64
I think it may be related to the July rollout of bidding Yo_Mama May 2013 #35
Survey doesn't include ones who were refused service or couldn't afford copay. madfloridian May 2013 #36
A LOT of people won't be able to afford the home health copay Yo_Mama May 2013 #40
I didn't read the full article gvstn May 2013 #41
But it would send those who chose home health care instead of in-hospital care... madfloridian May 2013 #45
This is only the beginning. Single payer is the only moral and decent way to solve this. L0oniX May 2013 #37
I'm not sure the store owner was being forthright about any of this. Tanuki May 2013 #39
He was making it a political football. madfloridian May 2013 #44
The little people are used for cannon fodder and to pay taxes. Octafish May 2013 #42
You should not have had to say that. There was a time it wouldn't have been necessary. madfloridian May 2013 #46
I'm hearing a lot of from people in the medical business - haele May 2013 #43
Very well stated. Thank you! gvstn May 2013 #47
I understand what you are saying.. Things aren't good out there for our Seniors... KoKo May 2013 #52
Your post is only too true. madfloridian May 2013 #53
MF..Whre is the AARP on all of this. Do you know? Many left the site awhile back KoKo May 2013 #67
Thanks and K&R unapatriciated May 2013 #56
That's a shame. madfloridian May 2013 #58
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