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sabrina 1

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27. You are right 'the only real win is when the public has all the accurate facts with which to make
Mon May 20, 2013, 11:06 PM
May 2013

a decision'. And the only way for that to happen is to have a free and open press which does not need to fear being spied on and harassed by the Government.

We do not have a free press since deregulation of the media and our 'news' organizations were bought by Big Corporations.

However, when a story is published such as this one, rather than attack the story before knowing any of the facts based on partisanship, we should all demand an investigation into the facts.

However, what we will find probably is that while Govt. spying on the press is reprehensible in any democracy, THIS country, under Bush, allowed spying on ALL citizens, destroying rights granted under the 4th Amendment, and you could add the Fifth, and certainly any infringement on the press affects the rights granted under the 1st Amendment.

We railed against those 'laws' when Bush was pushing them, we warned the far Right who supported anything their party did, that they would not always be in power so maybe they should think more about the country than the party they belonged to.

When individuals make decisions based on their party affiliation we get what we had under Bush, illegal wars, torture, destruction of Constitutional protections and a breakdown of this democracy. We are NOT Republicans and should never ignore any threat to the rights that were so hard fought for regardless of party affiliation.

This OP is absolutely correct. While this may have been 'legal', thanks to Bush and his 'terror laws', it is wrong and those laws that may have made it 'legal' need to be rescinded. In fact we thought once we elected Democrats they would be.

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Law v Law [View all] H2O Man May 2013 OP
help! H2O Man May 2013 #1
Recommended. NYC_SKP May 2013 #2
Your OP has had a remarkable recovery! Luminous Animal May 2013 #22
Like so many issues, we ought not to support the First Amendment only when it serves us. NYC_SKP May 2013 #3
Right. H2O Man May 2013 #10
Kick n/t Yo_Mama May 2013 #4
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT May 2013 #5
I had a H2O Man May 2013 #7
Anytime H2O Man, Anytime... WillyT May 2013 #8
Again, thanks! H2O Man May 2013 #9
k&r Vincardog May 2013 #6
1st Amendment seems to allow for lying, though dickthegrouch May 2013 #11
True. H2O Man May 2013 #14
The biggest problem is one of responsibility, not of laws! mrdmk May 2013 #15
You are right 'the only real win is when the public has all the accurate facts with which to make sabrina 1 May 2013 #27
Yes, I will defend the Devil's rights hootinholler May 2013 #12
Most Excellent Post !!! WillyT May 2013 #18
excellent read G_j May 2013 #13
Very thoughtful and informative thread, premium May 2013 #16
Wonderful. Wonderful OP Me. May 2013 #17
While I agree H2O Man May 2013 #19
There You Go Me. May 2013 #20
My dear Mr Waterman, my heart has been sinking this past week Luminous Animal May 2013 #21
Well, thank you! H2O Man May 2013 #24
I was there for you during your hunger strike and I will be there for you Luminous Animal May 2013 #25
We'll get together H2O Man May 2013 #26
In View Of This Discussion Me. May 2013 #23
Excellent OP, thank you H20 Man! sabrina 1 May 2013 #28
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