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loyalsister

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50. good point

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 12:06 PM

Jun 2013

But I don't think sexual predisposition is an apt analogy.

If it were absolutely impossible to control one's weight there would be no such thing as anorexia.

I think there is a continuum that between healthy and not so healthy diet control.

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Mere "overweight" certainly isn't always a problem Silent3 Jun 2013 #7

It reprograms muscle cells into fat cells, basically, Warpy Jun 2013 #10

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She must also breast feed someone, closeupready Jun 2013 #51

I agree with much of what you say, but my big complaint OKNancy Jun 2013 #2

our society is very much based on vanity and self righteousness. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #6

yes, it's prejudice pure and simple; and has a class bias as well. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #19

I certainly cared by myself that I was fat, and cared for myself. Silent3 Jun 2013 #24

What gets me wryter2000 Jun 2013 #3

Not only that, but >90% of people who have the will power or the surgery Warpy Jun 2013 #11

I'll take your "don't tell me it's simple" as a general comment to the world at large... Silent3 Jun 2013 #22

Not aimed at you wryter2000 Jun 2013 #26

Consuming less than you burn is flat out impossible over the long term eridani Jun 2013 #30

True wryter2000 Jun 2013 #49

A big misconception is that "healthy weight" people are healthy notadmblnd Jun 2013 #4

It's certainly a misconception to look at weight alone and go no deeper Silent3 Jun 2013 #8

It most assuredly does, at least for women eridani Jun 2013 #31

It's not "extra" fat if it's needed to support typical bodily needs. Silent3 Jun 2013 #39

Unfortunately when it comes to fat-bashing, that isn't true eridani Jun 2013 #44

K&R quinnox Jun 2013 #5

congratulations on your continuing efforts to stay healthy. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #9

While I certainly eat less sugar than before, I didn't have to go as far as elimination... Silent3 Jun 2013 #16

I allow myself a day of indulgence every once in a while but if I allow myself lit bits of sugar too liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #23

Lots of different motivations for eating/excessive caloric intake or inability to lose weight. haele Jun 2013 #12

Like you, I am baffled by the lack of longer inseams in the smaller sizes ... surrealAmerican Jun 2013 #13

In one way it certainly makes sense that we create labor-saving devices. Silent3 Jun 2013 #27

Exercise needs to be more than fun and enjoyable... surrealAmerican Jun 2013 #28

How would you implement the increased exercise? Silent3 Jun 2013 #41

A large percentage of our population lives in areas ... surrealAmerican Jun 2013 #42

Sugary sodas have a LOT of calories. Second, you are male. 3rd, you weren't morbidly obese. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #14

I actually eat out A LOT, which might surprise some people. Silent3 Jun 2013 #20

I'm with you on the sauces and dressing. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #37

To me "fault" implies moral judgement loyalsister Jun 2013 #15

You can control your weight in the same sense that gay people can control their sexuality eridani Jun 2013 #32

good point loyalsister Jun 2013 #50

It is possible to control your sexuality in exactly the same way eridani Jun 2013 #56

Your story is very similar to mine, though I've never been obese. closeupready Jun 2013 #18

I certainly knew I'd been overweight, but it took a while for me to think of myself as "obese". Silent3 Jun 2013 #21

"free gym at the office" Can you say class privilege? I knew you could. eridani Jun 2013 #29

I lost most of my weight before I even got near the gym at work... Silent3 Jun 2013 #46

Heck, this poor person lost 20% without ANY gym access - closeupready Jun 2013 #52

The biggest class/income issue when it comes to exercise might be available time... Silent3 Jun 2013 #53

And that makes you better than people who do simple cardio workouts and don't lose much eridani Jun 2013 #54

Do you think so? closeupready Jun 2013 #57

I get what you are saying but there are some things that need to change in our country Arcanetrance Jun 2013 #33

You may or may not lose weight if you eat less and exercise more eridani Jun 2013 #35

Nice breakdown of all the caloric "ins" and "outs" Silent3 Jun 2013 #38

The answer to how far the body can go is "A lot". JoeyT Jun 2013 #43

You are forgetting the mitochondrial ATP wastage cycle eridani Jun 2013 #45

"'Dave is one in a million,' says Dr. Craig M. Phelps, Alexander's doctor for 15 years." Silent3 Jun 2013 #48

Amended assertion: for women, it is a totally irrational goal eridani Jun 2013 #55

You cited an article as if it backed up your argument against some women even trying to lose... Silent3 Jun 2013 #58

If low body fat is so healthy, why do fat women outlive men with "ideal" body fat? eridani Jun 2013 #59

Weight aside, women in the US live an average of five years longer than men Silent3 Jun 2013 #61

Did you read the link about fat women not losing weight with exercise and diet-- eridani Jun 2013 #62

Why should one equate the frequent failure of diets with the idea that extra weight... Silent3 Jun 2013 #64

There is not one shred of evidence that extra fat leads to health problems eridani Jun 2013 #65

There definitely comes a time when it is slower going. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #63

And people who do the same things you do and don't lose weight are worthless pieces of shit? n/t eridani Jun 2013 #66

I am going to complain about pant sizes olddots Jun 2013 #60