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Silent3

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53. The biggest class/income issue when it comes to exercise might be available time...
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 03:45 PM
Jun 2013

...and even that's not a clear cut advantage for upper-income people, since many get the big bucks by putting in long hours at the office and/or on the road. You have to be pretty well-off before you can start paying other people to take much of the time-consuming stuff off your hands. Then again, whatever long hours some wealthier Americans put in, it might not be as much as some poorer Americans working multiple part-time jobs trying to make ends meet.

The food part of this equation, however... class and income probably make a bigger difference, since some of the cheapest calories are some of the most unhealthy, and food choices tend to be more limited in poorer neighborhoods. Perhaps there's a cultural divide too, with not as much disdain for fast food among people with lower incomes, and maybe a perception that some healthier choices are a bit "snooty".

I fully admit the above is mostly guesswork and half-remember info off the top of my head. If someone has solid info regarding income, class, food, and exercise, I'll gladly become better informed, and corrected if necessary.

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Read up on adenovirus serotype 36. Warpy Jun 2013 #1
Mere "overweight" certainly isn't always a problem Silent3 Jun 2013 #7
It reprograms muscle cells into fat cells, basically, Warpy Jun 2013 #10
The BMI scale doesn't take into account a large frame, either meow2u3 Jun 2013 #40
Anti Southern bigotry is remarkably popular on DU Fumesucker Jun 2013 #17
good job on the 15 miles a day arely staircase Jun 2013 #25
Let's not forget smokers, hughee99 Jun 2013 #34
A fat Southern smoker feeding Olive Garden takeout to their circumcised pit bull Fumesucker Jun 2013 #36
. Lurker Deluxe Jun 2013 #47
She must also breast feed someone, closeupready Jun 2013 #51
I agree with much of what you say, but my big complaint OKNancy Jun 2013 #2
our society is very much based on vanity and self righteousness. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #6
yes, it's prejudice pure and simple; and has a class bias as well. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #19
I certainly cared by myself that I was fat, and cared for myself. Silent3 Jun 2013 #24
What gets me wryter2000 Jun 2013 #3
Not only that, but >90% of people who have the will power or the surgery Warpy Jun 2013 #11
I'll take your "don't tell me it's simple" as a general comment to the world at large... Silent3 Jun 2013 #22
Not aimed at you wryter2000 Jun 2013 #26
Consuming less than you burn is flat out impossible over the long term eridani Jun 2013 #30
True wryter2000 Jun 2013 #49
A big misconception is that "healthy weight" people are healthy notadmblnd Jun 2013 #4
It's certainly a misconception to look at weight alone and go no deeper Silent3 Jun 2013 #8
It most assuredly does, at least for women eridani Jun 2013 #31
It's not "extra" fat if it's needed to support typical bodily needs. Silent3 Jun 2013 #39
Unfortunately when it comes to fat-bashing, that isn't true eridani Jun 2013 #44
K&R quinnox Jun 2013 #5
congratulations on your continuing efforts to stay healthy. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #9
While I certainly eat less sugar than before, I didn't have to go as far as elimination... Silent3 Jun 2013 #16
I allow myself a day of indulgence every once in a while but if I allow myself lit bits of sugar too liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #23
Lots of different motivations for eating/excessive caloric intake or inability to lose weight. haele Jun 2013 #12
Like you, I am baffled by the lack of longer inseams in the smaller sizes ... surrealAmerican Jun 2013 #13
In one way it certainly makes sense that we create labor-saving devices. Silent3 Jun 2013 #27
Exercise needs to be more than fun and enjoyable... surrealAmerican Jun 2013 #28
How would you implement the increased exercise? Silent3 Jun 2013 #41
A large percentage of our population lives in areas ... surrealAmerican Jun 2013 #42
Sugary sodas have a LOT of calories. Second, you are male. 3rd, you weren't morbidly obese. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #14
I actually eat out A LOT, which might surprise some people. Silent3 Jun 2013 #20
I'm with you on the sauces and dressing. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #37
To me "fault" implies moral judgement loyalsister Jun 2013 #15
You can control your weight in the same sense that gay people can control their sexuality eridani Jun 2013 #32
good point loyalsister Jun 2013 #50
It is possible to control your sexuality in exactly the same way eridani Jun 2013 #56
Your story is very similar to mine, though I've never been obese. closeupready Jun 2013 #18
I certainly knew I'd been overweight, but it took a while for me to think of myself as "obese". Silent3 Jun 2013 #21
"free gym at the office" Can you say class privilege? I knew you could. eridani Jun 2013 #29
I lost most of my weight before I even got near the gym at work... Silent3 Jun 2013 #46
Heck, this poor person lost 20% without ANY gym access - closeupready Jun 2013 #52
The biggest class/income issue when it comes to exercise might be available time... Silent3 Jun 2013 #53
And that makes you better than people who do simple cardio workouts and don't lose much eridani Jun 2013 #54
Do you think so? closeupready Jun 2013 #57
I get what you are saying but there are some things that need to change in our country Arcanetrance Jun 2013 #33
You may or may not lose weight if you eat less and exercise more eridani Jun 2013 #35
Nice breakdown of all the caloric "ins" and "outs" Silent3 Jun 2013 #38
The answer to how far the body can go is "A lot". JoeyT Jun 2013 #43
You are forgetting the mitochondrial ATP wastage cycle eridani Jun 2013 #45
"'Dave is one in a million,' says Dr. Craig M. Phelps, Alexander's doctor for 15 years." Silent3 Jun 2013 #48
Amended assertion: for women, it is a totally irrational goal eridani Jun 2013 #55
You cited an article as if it backed up your argument against some women even trying to lose... Silent3 Jun 2013 #58
If low body fat is so healthy, why do fat women outlive men with "ideal" body fat? eridani Jun 2013 #59
Weight aside, women in the US live an average of five years longer than men Silent3 Jun 2013 #61
Did you read the link about fat women not losing weight with exercise and diet-- eridani Jun 2013 #62
Why should one equate the frequent failure of diets with the idea that extra weight... Silent3 Jun 2013 #64
There is not one shred of evidence that extra fat leads to health problems eridani Jun 2013 #65
There definitely comes a time when it is slower going. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #63
And people who do the same things you do and don't lose weight are worthless pieces of shit? n/t eridani Jun 2013 #66
I am going to complain about pant sizes olddots Jun 2013 #60
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