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In reply to the discussion: Why Women Are Bullies At Work [View all]
Squinch
(51,099 posts)75. What a completely idiotic thread. With all the usual suspects saying completely idiotic things.
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All those poor guys with their awful female bosses. 
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They're just calling attention to it because they don't want women in power. It is more acceptable
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2013
#1
I dunno. I've worked for both men and women..Give me a man anytime, the women..ugh.
monmouth3
Jun 2013
#3
I've managed and trained both men and women, the guys would kiss my ass, then stab my back- and
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#15
oh, I know it does. but the guys were funny in that they appeared united against me...
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#21
Let's take your statement and substitute any ethnic or gender preference descriptor for "women:"
Squinch
Jun 2013
#150
Many times, women who rise through the ranks have "scores to settle", and may be harsher bosses
SoCalDem
Jun 2013
#4
It does, but there are fewer famales at the top, so they will remain "an intereting subset"
SoCalDem
Jun 2013
#10
So let me get this straight: you recognize that both genders do it, but you felt the
Squinch
Jun 2013
#130
alot of bullying by females is done with a smile and other subtextual communication.
galileoreloaded
Jun 2013
#61
Yes, men have no capacity for deep psychological manipulation of the women in their lives.
antigone382
Jun 2013
#101
The nonprofit for which I volunteered for many years brought me in as director for this reason.
lumberjack_jeff
Jun 2013
#14
the most sexism ive ever encountered in the workplace was essentially matricide
galileoreloaded
Jun 2013
#16
That's funny...the worst sexism I encountered was a male coworker telling me I didn't belong there.
antigone382
Jun 2013
#139
KR. In my experience, women typically behave *way* worse to other women at work than men
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#20
that may be. fact remains, it's women doing most of the targeting. sexual harrassment was a
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#26
No, the stats in the article say men are the bullies almost twice as frequently as women....
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#29
the article doesn't say any such thing. these are the only statistics mentioned:
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#37
Here are the stats from the original research report which bettyellen referenced...
antigone382
Jun 2013
#102
just like you chose not to mention the finding that women are more likely to bully women than
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#148
Actually in other of my posts on this thread, I have discussed that very issue.
antigone382
Jun 2013
#159
Thank you- the stats are fooling people into thinking it;s an epidemic among women- the opposite
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#165
Women do more bullying of women than men do. 80% of their bullying is of other women, and it's
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#174
That 2-point difference between men and women is within the margin of error.
antigone382
Jun 2013
#173
The 80% v. 45% likelihood of targeting women is not, however. Women are overwhelmingly
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#175
you present a theory, which is basically that women are fearful of bullying men because of
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#184
what;s hilarious is the stats say is half as likely a woman bullies at all, and everyone has fooled
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#178
actually what the stats say is that women bully 61% as often as men, but when they do,
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#183
ritght- men bully much more frequently- and women are the most frequent targets who RARELY BULLY MEN
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#187
my posts are full of specific data, like '61%', which you chose to ignore in favor of vague
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#190
men are MORE than 1 1/2 X more likely to bully a person. 61% vs 39 % - Take a math class already!
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#192
If you are using percentages to express liklihood- it would be men are 151% "as likely." You
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#198
you're confused. i said women are 61% as likely as men to bully. think about it.
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#199
nope- they say it;s almost TWICE AS COMMON for a man to bully someone- and that women are bullied
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#167
The report mentioned in the article says the majority of bullying of females is done by other
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#155
and yet that would be statistically 3-4X times less common, LOL. Cool story though!
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#88
so that stats say men are bullies almost twice as frequently as women are. And women bigger victims
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#27
No, - since women are much less often the bullies to begin with: 62% vs 38% women...
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#34
men are doing the VAST majority (almost double) of ALL bullying that occurs. ;-) kind of relevant.
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#45
nope. i just didn't have time to double-check the calculations. i will double check tonight &
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#128
Women tend to hold grudges and vendettas longer, and take them more seriously than men
davidn3600
Jun 2013
#25
Yes. Their experiences with people with scary lady parts. Ahhhhhh! Be afraid!!!!
Squinch
Jun 2013
#125
Can you just imagine how outraged many posting here would be if we substituted any racial or ethnic
Squinch
Jun 2013
#132
Yes...what's funny is that so few respond when you bring up the actual statistics.
antigone382
Jun 2013
#143
Yeah, what's amazing is that the article focuses on female behavior in a *context* of male dominion.
antigone382
Jun 2013
#145
That actually makes me a little misty eyed. Did you ever think you would see anything like that?
Squinch
Jun 2013
#225
I've worked in offices with mostly women and I've worked jobs where I was the only woman in the
Arkansas Granny
Jun 2013
#31
and yet half the thread is convinced by this POS article's headline, LOL. Thanks for the synopsis!
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#38
Same here. And I've had men bosses that were awesome and others that were awful. nt
raccoon
Jun 2013
#68
i want to see the exact behaviors that people are determing is bullying in women
La Lioness Priyanka
Jun 2013
#50
Sexism is fine here at DU- notice the people slobbering over a slanted article like this one like
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#53
"The very notion that you think women are more likely to cheat that men"
galileoreloaded
Jun 2013
#122
I find it amusing that some are making great strides toward validating the OP
Major Nikon
Jun 2013
#218
me too- except so very few dived into the stats enough to understand what biased sexist tripe they
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#180
ha, I alerted on this thread- and one juror said similar (with out the sarcasm)
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#63
I know when I was a manager, only the men were aggrieved by my behavior. They expected autonomy
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#56
yep, it seemed pretty normal at the time. it is incredible how much more productive and pleasant
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#86
Yes, i do. I want to know what exact behaviors are being considered manipulative
La Lioness Priyanka
Jun 2013
#209
Telling tales about me to their boss instead of doing their job, as I had asked them to
Mopar151
Jun 2013
#233
Better title: Both men and women are human beings and capable of being good or being jerks
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#71
while i mostly agree with you, it is also partly that when women behave like male managers
La Lioness Priyanka
Jun 2013
#83
As a female supervisor, I've had a couple of my now ex employees complain about me
Nikia
Jun 2013
#240
What a completely idiotic thread. With all the usual suspects saying completely idiotic things.
Squinch
Jun 2013
#75
It was great, but it was a non-profit, with salaries and wages that were better than
Zorra
Jun 2013
#160
yes, it's about power, in a lot of ways. an in-depth examination of that would be interesting.
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#149
Dunno that the broad inequalities run widely in favor of men these days either. IMO that holds
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#153
i'm not sure i'm understanding you right, you're saying low-level female workers were bullying
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#168
it depends on the family- like the Kennedy's who lobotomized their wild child daughter, Kit, I think
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#171
She didn't control her money. You missed the point. If you control money, it doesn't matter
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#176
You missed the point- no woman in that (and most) families did. You;re rare exception, proves the
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#179
sorry, i can't parse what you said. if you mean most rich women didn't have control of the
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#182
baloney. you're blinded by your preconception, which is that the only way women inherit in a
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#186
I don't think it's accurate to characterize this as a victimization contest.
antigone382
Jun 2013
#170
I think it's accurate. I've worked in female-dominated workplaces most of my working life.
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#181
it;s common is shittier low paying companies where everyone is stressed andt hey hire women because
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#188
actually, it's low-level men whose pay has gone down. low-level women's pay has gone up.
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#189
management is more often all female? is this that Wonder Woman island or something?
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#191
in female dominated workplaces, yes. management is more likely to be female.
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#194
you keep missing that men are more than 1 1/2 X more likely to be bullies at all. while women pick
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#196
If we're going to decide by anecdote here, I've seen men ruin other men for their own professional
Squinch
Jun 2013
#157
because it's normal/ expected from men. but the work of satan when a woman does it.
bettyellen
Jun 2013
#172
If it's hard to find people who do the work that you do, co-workers tend to be highly grateful--
eridani
Jun 2013
#204
I believe there are many people out there who think that treating others like shit
raccoon
Jun 2013
#206
When a thread talks shit about men-in-general, it's an important/necessary socio-cultural "critique"
Warren DeMontague
Jun 2013
#241