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In reply to the discussion: CNET Story Alleging NSA Can Listen To Phone Calls w/o Warrant Faces Skepticism - BIG UPDATE [View all]jsr
(7,712 posts)109. 1a. It's Dick Cheney's fault
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2008/12/15/vice_president_cheney_calls_rush2
Vice President Cheney Calls Rush
December 15, 2008
RUSH: Talk about the incoming administration for just a second in one regard. One of the unfair, to me -- maybe I'm wrong about this -- one of the unfair criticisms is that you and the President have spent an inordinate amount of time beefing up, in a separation-of-powers sense, the power of the executive branch. You have strengthened it based on some weakening that you've felt that it had experienced in previous administrations. Now, do you think the incoming administration will benefit from the strengthening you have engaged in with the executive branch? Do you expect them to cede some of their power back to the legislative branch?
THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, my guess is once they get here and they're faced with the same problems we deal with every day, that they will appreciate some of the things we've put in place. We did not exceed our constitutional authority as some have suggested, but we -- the President believes, I believe -- very deeply in a strong executive, and I think that's essential in this day and age, and I think the Obama administration is not likely to cede that authority back to the Congress. I think they'll find that, given the challenge they face, they'll need all the authority they can muster.
Vice President Cheney Calls Rush
December 15, 2008
RUSH: Talk about the incoming administration for just a second in one regard. One of the unfair, to me -- maybe I'm wrong about this -- one of the unfair criticisms is that you and the President have spent an inordinate amount of time beefing up, in a separation-of-powers sense, the power of the executive branch. You have strengthened it based on some weakening that you've felt that it had experienced in previous administrations. Now, do you think the incoming administration will benefit from the strengthening you have engaged in with the executive branch? Do you expect them to cede some of their power back to the legislative branch?
THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, my guess is once they get here and they're faced with the same problems we deal with every day, that they will appreciate some of the things we've put in place. We did not exceed our constitutional authority as some have suggested, but we -- the President believes, I believe -- very deeply in a strong executive, and I think that's essential in this day and age, and I think the Obama administration is not likely to cede that authority back to the Congress. I think they'll find that, given the challenge they face, they'll need all the authority they can muster.
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CNET Story Alleging NSA Can Listen To Phone Calls w/o Warrant Faces Skepticism - BIG UPDATE [View all]
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
OP
Fortunately we have a whistle blower who makes it plain that they do
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#10
Harvesting and Storing of ALL Digital and Phone Records Clearly Violates the 4th Admendment
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#15
The SC has apparently decided that outside-the-envelope information isn't protected
ucrdem
Jun 2013
#18
The Supreme Court ruled in 1979 that phone records are not protected by the 4th amendment
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
#23
That has nothing to do with Harvesting and Storing ALL Digital and Phone Communications
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#36
Apples and Oranges: This is about the massive harvesting and storing of ALL Americans Digital Comm
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#115
I did, they were 4 slides, and this is not about just the documents
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#120
And if a whistleblower said we were ruled by alien lizards, would that make it true?
jeff47
Jun 2013
#130
In our country we have something called the "Separation of Powers" for just this purpose
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#24
NSA has never said they do that. The nut at CNET wrote an article that said that.
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
#52
The CNET screwed up their article. Muller and Nadler were talking about 'meta-data'
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
#73
Author of the CNET article also reported that Al Gore invented the internet. Gonna believe that nut?
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
#40
And cnet very carefully didn't report Mueller's response. And misquoted Feinstein.
DevonRex
Jun 2013
#50
If the NSA is engaged in warrantless wiretapping again, lots of us will be quite angry. But
struggle4progress
Jun 2013
#66
I do agree that skepticism is always warranted. But some here are only skeptical of whistle-blowers
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#76
I don't know anything about LGF, but their VIDEO and transcript and commentary in the article...
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
#85
Did you read the excerpt in Comment #79? He referred to what he heard in the briefing at the hearing
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
#93
It reposts and transcribes a C-SPAN video of a House judiciary committee hearing.
ucrdem
Jun 2013
#87
Are you deliberately misrepresenting tje facts, or merely incredibly dense?
HooptieWagon
Jun 2013
#96
I've noticed that many of these people are the same ones who were only around last time there was
okaawhatever
Jun 2013
#117
Yep, that's it then. This is the desperate story that is going to make all the revelations magically
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2013
#104