CNET Story Alleging NSA Can Listen To Phone Calls w/o Warrant Faces Skepticism - BIG UPDATE

[DevonRex]

111. That huge complex in Utah is for the storage of it all.

It'll be done in September.

Remember all the information is being stored by corporations anyway. They can be hacked at any time by any decent hacker for any purpose. Or an employee could snoop for someone else, put a tap on your line.

The government does have to jump through hoops to look at the data. For a citizen or green card holder, it has to already know the citizen or GCH is a member of a terrorist organization or is planning a terrorist attack. They can't open the records to find out IF those things are true.

People think it looks bad that the government has these programs but didn't catch the Boston bombers prior to the bombing. I say it should emphasize the safeguards against intruding into the lives of American citizens and GCH err on the side of the people, not spying.

Everyone is saying that Russia said he was radicalized!! Apparently a FISA judge doesn't think Russia's word is good enough without evidence to back it up. And, what does radicalized even mean?

Tamerlan posted a fiery cleric's sermons on his YouTube channel. Apparently a FISA judge calls that free speech. Tamerlan met with suspected Dagestani rebels while overseas. Just so happens they're his relatives through his mother.

None of it added up to being a member of a foreign terrorist organization or that he was planning a terrorist act here. Perhaps if Russia had been willing to give us what they had in their intercepts it would have helped. They declined every request.

What do I really think? I think that the intent is good. The safeguards are strict. There will always be people trying to get around the safeguards. So constant improvements have to be made in security. I don't like people who are nothing more than IT people having access to product. I never have. It's a huge problem that has to be addressed. Freelance hackers are spies with no allegiance. They do it because they can, then try to tell you they had some lofty goal. It's bullshit. Every single time.

We have to find out who hired Snowden at CIA. He worked for Dell first. Dell, who's a huge Bush contributor and who outsourced his manufacturing to China. Who dodged taxes. Obama tried to close a loop hole on his taxes. He contributed to McConnell and it failed. Dell was contacted by a reporter about Snowden. They said the Justice Dept told them not to talk. The JD said that wasn't true. Then Dell said it was their own attorney who said not to comment.

There are many, many facets to this. Nothing is simple. Except that we've known about this "news" for a long time. Even what's allowed under FISA is listed in Wikipedia - all the amendments.